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PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 9, 2007 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1.CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Davis called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Davis; Commissioners Young, Trent, Norman, and Quinlan; Public Works
Director Brown; and late arrival City Council liaison Turgeon
Absent: Commissioners Alegi and Hensley
B. Review Agenda
Item 10B, New Business, was added to the agenda.
Trent moved, Norman seconded, approving the Agenda as revised. Motion passed 5/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of September 5, 2007
Norman moved, Chair Davis seconded, approving the Minutes of the September 5,
2007, meeting as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
3. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting of October 8, 2007
Brown reported that the City Council debated whether to host the Appreciation Event
typically held in December. It was determined that the appreciation party would continue
and be held on December 14, 2007. In addition, the Council worked on Enterprise
Budgets, which included the City’s two liquor operations currently for sale. Brown
mentioned that the Amlee and Manitou Road construction project public hearing would be
held next month, although easements are not forthcoming and the project will likely
stagnate.
B. Report on Arctic Fever Meeting of September 26, 2007
Chair Davis stated that, while Tonka Bay had not scheduled activities for the event, they
do wish to participate in Arctic Fever next year. Davis noted that, at the previous meeting,
the group discussed funding, passports, and finalized its vendor participants. She
acknowledged the City Council’s $3000 commitment to the seed fund and mentioned that
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representatives would be attending the upcoming Park Foundation meeting to request
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funding on the 17. In addition, Chair Davis pointed out that it is their intent to finalize all
participants and a schedule as soon as possible so that support materials, in store displays,
and magazine/newsletter deadlines can be met to sufficiently promote the event.
Norman added that the planning phase is in a good place and that over the next 1-2
months they will be solidifying the details.
Quinlan questioned when the deadlines for corporate sponsorship would occur.
Chair Davis noted that it is their intent to have everything completed by Thanksgiving so
that the support documents and displays can be set up in stores over the holiday.
City Council liaison Turgeon arrived at 7:15 p.m.
4. REPORT FROM MCE ON SUMMER ACTIVITIES
MCE’s Meg Low, Coordinator of Children’s Services, and Christine Best, Youth and
Recreation Manager, gave a brief paper power point presentation recap of the Summer
Rec program at Freeman Park. In essence, MCE was quite pleased with the public
reception and Freeman Park facilities this past summer and look forward to an ongoing
and expanded summer series next year. A few highlights from the rec program included,
the program length which ran Tuesdays and Thursdays from June 19- August 16; hosted
80 children, 40 boys/40 girls, 66% of which were aged 4-6; and 85% were Shorewood
residents.
Chair Davis asked if they felt the program met or exceeded their expectations.
Best stated that they had hoped for a minimum of 15 youth and were surprised by the
response of 40 who enrolled, so much so that they had to place a cap on the enrollment.
Obviously well received, the program filled a niche within the community. MCE
representatives thanked Shorewood for the partnership and acknowledged Park Secretary
Grout for her exceptional support. Best stated that they hosted 2 T-Ball teams of 16
players each at Cathcart Park during the day and hoped to expand that program as well
next year.
Chair Davis thanked Best and Low for coming, mentioning that this is a program the
Commission has wanted to institute for a long time. She encouraged MCE to consider
expanding the program to Manor Park next season.
Trent commended MCE for its efforts and asked if they had the ability or desire to expand
the program size or if there was anything else the City could do to support them.
Best stated that 40 kids is a good number and they would not wish to increase that;
however, they would consider adding additional days and potentially other parks to the
mix. She commented that it was convenient for staff to be able to leave their equipment at
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Freeman station over night and pull it out each morning. She mentioned that it might be
nice if there were a faucet and hose outside for their water activities.
Brown noted that this is not the first time a faucet or hose has been brought up as a
request at Eddy Station, acknowledging that there might be a real need to install a hose
bib near the drinking fountain for this group, as well as the garden club.
Chair Davis thanked the MCE representatives for coming and suggested that the
Commission hold a work session in February to look at summer programming with MCE,
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the 3 Lair, and Music in the Park.
Norman stated that this is a program similar to one he loved growing up and was pleased
at how this has exceeded expectations.
5. COMMUNITY REC. RESOURCES QUARTERLY REPORT
Kristi Anderson, CRR representative, gave a brief synopsis of the first and second
quarterly report acknowledging that both ‘everything and nothing stays the same’. For
instance, while the ongoing facility use continues each season, the organizations and their
representatives continually change and require varying degrees of attention, especially in
light of new relationships formed with users such as MCE.
Anderson noted that the spring sports information meeting was held last March and after
much communication all fees and documents were collected, some more timely than
others, due in part to new personnel within the organizations themselves. After spending
time bringing the new representatives up to speed on the process, the season ran with little
interruption. Anderson stated that ongoing systematic communication will be the key to
maintaining and providing users with a good experience. She acknowledged an increase in
not only the numbers of organized sports users, but also the numbers of ‘random’ users,
those who request use of the parks for a one time use or event.
As always, monitoring continues to be a valuable piece of CRR’s responsibility, as the
public enjoys seeing the City take an interest in park use and ask for their input.
Monitoring was critical, especially in light of the fact that Badger was put on rest in
preparation for its new lighting and field improvements this summer, which displaced
Lacrosse at Manor Park again this year. Anderson stated that on several occasions while
monitoring both Manor and Freeman individuals complimented the City on its facilities.
While there were no tournaments scheduled at Freeman Park this year, Anderson noted
that it is apparent that park usage is expanding and with this continued demand it is critical
that the City continue its efforts to sustain, maintain and improve the overall quality of its
park system.
Anderson thanked the Commission for its ongoing support and complimented them on
their initiatives to provide a good experience to all users.
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Brown interjected, commending CRR for their efforts, pointing out that in their humble
estimation they did not adequately relay to the Commission how much ongoing
communication it takes to educate new sports organization representatives and deal with
the scheduling and collection process; saving significant amounts of staff time. He shared
with new Commissioners the amount of time needed behind the scenes to accomplish what
CRR does day by day. He maintained that CRR does an incredible job for the City and
their efforts are appreciated by all.
Turgeon echoed the sentiments, stating that before contracting the park coordinator
services to CRR, staff was bombarded by special interest and park scheduling, as well as
document and fee collection, which ate up a great deal of their time.
Quinlan asked if there was a link on line under parks to retrieve the annual schedule.
Anderson stated that, to her knowledge, there is a link to each season’s schedule, though
not an annual schedule for the entire year on the website. She acknowledged that many of
the newer Commissioner’s are probably not aware what CRR does as park coordinator.
She relayed that CRR hold sports information meetings twice a year at which time the
season schedules are distributed to the sports organizations. Prior to the meeting, the
sports organization representatives provide CRR with a data request form delineating
what it is they are looking for and CRR uses these forms, along with the Park Priority
Policy, an equation created by the Commission several years ago, to determine schedule
use.
Brown pointed out that CRR plays an integral role in communicating or balancing out the
field use.
Trent asked how the fields are policed and whether the users are good about maintaining
the fields when they are finished.
Anderson stated that as part of their facility use agreement, each organization agrees to
leave the fields as they find them, and for the most part the fields are left in good
condition. Most of the users know what is expected of them at the outset of the season.
Brown concurred, adding that on occasion some additional trash is left after an event, but
that is where his public works staff comes into play, coming out early the next morning to
clean up. He noted that they have never had to assign punitive damages, except for one
tournament many years ago, and that is why it is great to have CRR on hand to let people
know on the front end what is expected of them before anything occurs.
Turgeon asked whether Anderson had heard any impacts the City might feel from the
construction of the new fields at Minnetonka and the user implications of that.
Anderson stated that, according to several conversations that she had been a part of, the
new fields will mostly accommodate the more mature youth player; whereas, a majority of
those who use Shorewood fields are the younger ball players. She noted that more
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organization might take advantage of this availability in the long run, as this year more
‘random’ users requested field time than ever before.
Brown stated that there appears to be a wider degree of users than ever before, which is a
testament of how well the system is working.
Norman asked how the City could work with MCE to accommodate more space for them
if the Commission chooses to do so.
Anderson stated that this will largely be up to the Commission itself. She noted that the
Park Priority Policy is currently set up so that sports organizations receive first priority,
followed by school districts, churches, perhaps MCE etc. If more emphasis is put on
setting up a full blown summer program with MCE, that might be something the
Commission wishes to reconsider, as of now Freeman is booked pretty solidly most
evenings, unless MCE chooses to expand their daytime or early evening programs there
are few options.
Brown stated that he hears the need to bring back the priority policy for review and to
familiarize Commissioners with its contents.
Chair Davis suggested this be reviewed at the work session in February.
Anderson encouraged the Commission to consider the policy prior to February, as the
spring meeting itself takes place shortly thereafter. Brown echoed this sentiment
suggesting they review this in December.
6. SKATE CAMP FEEDBACK, EVALUATION, DEMOGRAPHICS
Norman felt the event was a success, offering an activity for a broad range of ages this
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provided a very appropriate level of commitment by the City. He pointed out that 3 Lair
is able to bring in mobile equipment to fit varying age brackets.
Chair Davis stated that she always sees children at the Skate Park taking advantage of its
size and location.
7. DISCUSS ARCTIC FEVER SPONSORSHIP EFFORTS
Chair Davis asked if anyone had any sponsorship updates they wished to share.
Quinlan stated that he had information in several folk’s hands and would be following up
with the Data Doctors and Tino’s Pizza.
Norman stated that he had used the passports to offer as a tool to several businesses,
though not all business’ can benefit from them. He indicated he would send an email out
to Alegi and Hensley to check in on their progress and encourage them to move forward.
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8. REVIEW VENDORS AGREEMENT FOR ARCTIC FEVER
Chair Davis stated that she would like to hear Hensley’s comment with regard to the
agreement before proceeding. She stated that many of the small scale vendors might be
intimidated by the insurance requirement.
Brown stated that he would be checking into the City applying for a blanket policy for the
event to cover those who do not have sufficient insurance themselves.
9. REVIEW SURVEY RESULTS FOR CATHCART PARK
According to the handful of surveys returned, Brown stated that it is apparent that
playgrounds and tennis courts are key subjects to look at.
Chair Davis suggested that the City contact the City of Chanhassen to help cover the costs
of maintaining or redoing the tennis courts or playgrounds.
Turgeon questioned the viability of moving forward with the tennis court repairs based
solely on 6 surveys out of 66.
Brown acknowledged that the Commission had a much better ratio of returned surveys at
their other parks.
Quinlan suggested the City look into an online survey tool that people can go online and
fill out at any time and make comments.
While Turgeon liked interactive applications, and stated that this is something the City is
looking at, they need to proceed cautiously.
Young stated that he believed it would be a good idea to schedule a meeting with the City
of Chanhassen representatives to discuss this park and the partnership the 2 cities have
around it.
Brown stated that he and Chair Davis would be seeing representatives of Chanhassen at
the Dog Park the end of the month and could try to discuss the idea of getting together
with them at that time.
10. DETERMINE LIAISON FOR OCTOBER 22 CITY COUNCIL MEETING
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Quinlan will be liaison on October 22.
B. NEW BUSINESS
Chair Davis stated that Carver Parks and Chanhassen would be hosting a get together at
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the Dog Park on October 31 at 2:30pm to view the progress. She noted that the park
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system would likely be looking to collect the money earmarked by the City for the project
at that time.
Saturday, October 13 from 10am – 12pm, there will be a Gideon Glen dedication
ceremony. Although the watershed is responsible for ongoing maintenance, Brown noted
that the site is in need of additional maintenance help.
Chair Davis asked how badly the graffiti problem was this year.
Brown stated that there has not been as much graffiti in the parks this year as in years
past, and instead vandals are graffitiing public and street signs.
11. ADJOURN
Young moved, Norman seconded, adjourning the Park Commission Meeting of
October 9, 2007, at 8:13p.m. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
Recorder