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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JANUARY 8, 2013 7:00 P.M.
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Quinlan convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Quinlan; Commissioners Edmondson, Kjolhaug, Swaggert,
;
Hartmann (arrived at 7:05 p.m.), Gordon and MangoldPublic Works
Director Brown
Absent: None
B. Review Agenda
Gordon moved to approve the agenda as presented. Kjolhaug seconded the motion. Motion carried.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of December 11, 2012
Commissioner Edmondson moved to approve the minutes of the December 11, 2012 meeting as
submitted. Mangold seconded the motion. Motion carried.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None
4. SUMMER EVENTS
Quinlan stated a thorough schedule of summer events has evolved over the years. A list of last year’s
events has been provided to review as a planning tool. He stated staff is asking whether a fee structure
should be created for some of the events. He asked for comments on programs. He noted they have been
popular. Swaggert stated those that weren’t as popular have been eliminated over time. Quinlan noted the
skate camp is not on the list because of waning popularity. Grout stated a different kind of skateboarding
camp could be offered this year. Brown asked Grout to comment on the programs and whether they have
been popular. She noted the DNR camp is very popular and no fee is charged. She stated there is no limit
to the MN Zoo program. She stated Bugs and Critters program has a maximum of ten, and it always fills
up. We pay for her supplies. Grout stated the kite making program fills up which is a free program for
kids, but there is a $175 charge. She noted there has been a waiting list for the program. Hartmann asked
if a nominal fee would be counter-productive. Quinlan stated it would eliminate no-shows. Gordon agreed
it helped people show up, but it is a nice thing for the City to provide free and healthy activities. Grout
noted she does send out reminder notices for those who have signed up and asking she be notified if they
cannot attend. Mangold suggested there be back-up volunteers available in case there are more attendees at
programs. Kjolhaug asked if any of the programs failed because of the time offered or if more volunteers
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could be available to help with programs. Grout noted the kite making program could be offered to more if
there were more volunteers. Quinlan asked if there have been requests for additional programs. Hartmann
asked if a Yo Yo camp has been considered. Grout stated she has checked into that. Gordon stated
juggling is also popular. Hartmann asked if there is any way to get more into the safety camp because of
its popularity. She noted she had to attend in another city because Shorewood’s was full. Grout discussed
the costs involved with the Safety Camp. Brown stated there are many hours spent working on this
program behind the scenes. Quinlan asked if the tennis program is specifically for Shorewood residents.
Grout noted all the registrations are done through a particular individual, and the courts are provided.
Quinlan asked if there were any City expenses. Grout noted he did pay the City for the camp that was held.
Edmondson suggested a pickle ball camp be held. In response to additional questions about the tennis
offerings, Grout stated she would get more information about the costs involved with the tennis programs.
Commissioners discussed the Movie in the Park program which was very popular. Popcorn was sold at the
movie. Commissioners discussed the Cowboy Hoedown event which drew a smaller crowd.
Commissioners discussed attendance for both events. Commissioners discussed offerings at Crescent
Beach. Paddle boarding and kayaking classes were offered, and all were full. Brown noted story time was
very popular through the Excelsior Library. He noted they coordinate with them and bring the truck out
that is the same as the book being read. Kid Power was also popular with fifty attending. Grout noted the
Sports Unlimited camp didn’t fill up nor did the skateboard camp. Golf was very popular. Quinlan stated
he believed the budget is working well and didn’t think the fee structure needs to be changed. Edmondson
suggested more events for the winter. Grout stated proposed skating parties have been cancelled due to
weather. The Southshore Center and Mrs. M have many programs scheduled. Hartmann stated most of
the demographic are in school in the winter. Kjolhaug suggested a firearms safety or archery class be
offered. Gordon suggested an ice fishing class or fishing in the summer. Grout discussed DNR offerings.
Staff was directed to provide additional information on suggested offerings this year. Kjolhaug asked
about Minnetonka Community Ed offerings. Grout stated summer day camps are offered through
Community Ed at Freeman Park.
5. ARCTIC FEVER – SNOW SCULPTURES
Brown updated the Commission on the snow sculpture event at Arctic Fever. He stated snow cubes are
being constructed at Badger Park. He stated 21 cubes will be available. He discussed issues involving the
event such as police patrols, use of power tools, and the weather. Grout noted there are three contestants to
date. Edmondson discussed the importance of using social media to promote this and other events. He
noted food and beverages will be served at the Southshore Center on Friday night (January 18). He stated
portable fire pits are still needed. Swaggert stated he has two he can bring. Hartmann asked what our
position is for businesses promoting themselves at public events. Commissioners and staff discussed
involvement of businesses and the City’s policy. Edmondson noted voting will take place inside the
Southshore Center. Several volunteered to be at the event.
6. DETERMINE AGENDA FOR JOINT MEETING WITH SURROUNDING PARK
COMMISSIONS
Quinlan discussed the possibility of having a joint meeting with other Park Commissions. He stated he
hasn’t had any response from Excelsior commissioners. February 26 was the suggested date. He
suggested the date be agreed on and a rough agenda be created. Hartmann suggested Chanhassen be
included for cross-promotional purposes. Kjolhaug stated some limits need to be set. Grout stated the
impression was to invite the smaller cities in the surrounding areas. Swaggert suggested discussing what
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should be on the agenda. Quinlan stated the top priority should be to find out what programs each city
offers and how they can cross-promote. Edmondson stated the big issues are having programs on the same
nights and to combine resources in order to save costs. Gordon stated facilities are also a concern and what
facilities can be shared. Brown stated the preparation for the meeting is key and a questionnaire would be
important. He stated one of the big questions is whether the skate ramps are viable. Leverage of other
cities’ research would also be important. Kjolhaug suggested a couple representatives from each
commission be a part of the meeting rather than the entire commission from each city. Following
discussion, Quinlan stated the agenda should be to learn more about what the other commissions are doing
and how they can work together following completion of a survey. Quinlan suggested staff work to contact
the other groups. Quinlan stated he would like to attend and believed any other commissioner should attend
if desires. He suggested the meeting be held at Southshore Center. The meeting would be held on Tuesday,
February 26, 2013 at 7 p.m. This item will be on the February meeting agenda.
7. REVIEW PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR 2013 WORK PROGRAM
Quinlan stated staff has prepared a work program for 2013 for the commissioners’ review. He stated the
plan appears to be very reasonable. He asked for input or questions. Kjolhaug asked where the Rustic
Trail box culvert would be placed. Brown noted it would be in the area where the creek narrows.
Kjolhaug asked if there would be any Watershed permitting required. Brown stated permitting might be
required. Kjolhaug suggested the backboard be installed as soon as possible and that Gideon Glen be
available for use by fall. Edmondson suggested completion of items such as the backboard be included in
the newsletter.
8. COMMUNITY GARDENS - REVIEW LOT SIZES AND FENCING
Grout stated information would be provided at the next meeting although gardeners have suggested that
larger plot sizes be provided. She noted the existing spots are 5’ x 8’ now. This item will be placed on the
next agenda. Lot dimensions and additional fencing will be discussed.
9. FREEMAN/BADGER PARKS HOCKEY RINK
Brown stated staff has reviewed four options for a location for a hockey rink at Freeman. Option A would
disrupt drainage. Option B would require relocation of the parking lot. Option C would locate the rink in
field 6 and eliminate the field. He stated the question is whether it is feasible to move the rink to Freeman.
He stated it is if you are willing to eliminate a ball field. Commissioners discussed the feasibility of moving
the rink to Freeman. Brown stated the ball field and lights are two major considerations. Gordon asked if
all the fields in Freeman are in use. Grout noted they were. Gordon asked if the warming house a distance
from the rink if there are boards laid down for the skaters. Brown stated a rubber mat is placed down on
the ground. Mangold stated if the rink is moved toward Eddy Station, there would be room for a field.
Brown noted there is a drainage ditch that runs adjacent to the field which is important to draining a
majority of the area to the creek and the wetland. Kjolhaug asked if it could be addressed with tile and
some grading. Brown stated it becomes a challenge where underground pipes can heave or become
crushed. Mangold suggested configuring the rink so some of the park and some of the ball field would be
taken. Commissioners discussed options. Brown stated staff can refine options discussed and refine costs.
10. NEW BUSINESS
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Brown discussed the lighting repairs at Badger Park.
11. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Brown stated Mayor Zerby and Councilmember Kristine Sundberg have been sworn in. The new Council
approved a new contract with Mr. Joynes for the next two years on a part-time basis. Quinlan suggested he
be invited to a Park Commission meeting to introduce himself. Grout stated a joint meeting with the City
Council is scheduled for Monday, February 11 at 6 p.m.
Brown stated there is an electrician working on the lights at Cathcart.
B. Staff
12. ADJOURN
Edmondson moved, Hartmann seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of January 8, 2013, at
9:35 p.m. Motion carried.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder