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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 2016 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Mangold convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
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Present: Chair Mangold, Commissioners Hartmann, Stelmachers and VassarCity
Council Liaison Labadie; City Planner Nielsen
Absent: Dietz
B. Review Agenda
Stelmachers moved to approve the agenda as written. Vassar seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of December 8, 2015
Stelmachers moved to approve the minutes of the December 8, 2015 meeting as written. Vassar seconded
the motion. Motion carried -0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. DISCUSS 2016 WORK PROGRAM
Nielsen stated the work plan on Badger field is being held up for the most part because of the need for
direction from the City Council on Badger Park. He stated financing is also a major concern. He stated
something needs to be done there. There will be more direction following the Council work session on
February 5. He stated we did get a large grant for the field at Badger. We got $200,000 which is 2/3 of
what was asked for.
Nielsen stated the work program is sparse, but there are things we need to talk about. In March we will be
looking at two new members. We’ve been directed to talk about the hockey rink at Freeman at the same
meeting. A meeting is scheduled for February 2 with Tonka United to talk about the upcoming season.
Tonka United stated they could reduce the tournament length. The Council was determined in past years
that shuttling services be added. Hartmann asked if they could advertise the road closures in advance.
Commissioners discussed publicizing road closures. There is a need for better communication from the
City. Nielsen stated policing of all the events in the city is a real issue.
Mangold stated he didn’t know for sure what tournament fees were. He believed the fees should be
reviewed and changed in March. Hartmann stated other cities’ fees should be reviewed in advance.
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Nielsen stated we need to talk about the skate park in April. If there wasn’t going to be a skate park there,
we need to start thinking about other uses. Stelmachers suggested donating the usable stuff to Chanhassen
to garner good will.
Mangold stated there were some items on the list that could be moved to later dates. We need to revisit
landscape standards and the review and update of the CIP. They could both be revisited after the park
tours.
Hartmann suggested Brown be available in February for the landscape standards discussion. Mangold
hoped there would be something that could be implemented this spring. He also thought the tennis court
conversation needed to be moved up in the year. Nielsen suggested it be brought up to March. Mangold
agreed and noted hockey could be moved to later in the year. Hartmann asked if there was some way to
find out what other grants were available. Mangold stated there was a national website which listed grants.
Mangold suggested Cathcart be discussed. He stated the goal was to go back to Chanhassen with a plan
and request for funding. He believed it needed to happen before the park tours. Nielsen stated he would try
to get it in February or March. Nielsen added Cathcart to April.
5.UPDATE ON PARK INVENTORY AND PRIORITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT
Mangold stated there were some items that were being followed closely on the CIP and some that were not. He
questioned whether a time change was needed, the item needed to be moved, or the item needed to be removed.
Nielsen stated the hockey rink in Cathcart was low; it was marked for 2015 replacement, and the amount marked
was ½ of the replacement cost. He suggested ranges be used for replacement rather than an indicated
replacement year. For example, a range of 25-30 years rather than a specific year could be indicated. He noted
the trailer at Cathcart was in very bad condition. He suggested an estimate for a new trailer was a priority.
Nielsen discussed new overlays for tennis courts, excluding Badger Park. He stated the perimeter trail at
Cathcart was added. Mangold stated he believed the tennis court signs and little league field maintenance needs
might need to be removed from the list. Nielsen stated the tennis court signs were a note for all the parks. He
stated he didn’t think there was a fence at the field.
Hartmann stated the hockey rink at Freeman was close to the one at Cathcart. She stated the question was
whether there was a need for two so close. She suggested two small rinks at Freeman. Vassars stated the rink at
Cathcart was surprisingly full for the most part. Mangold stated we need an amount for the trailer replacement.
Hartmann suggested putting something with an actual bathroom at Cathcart. Mangold agreed we should discuss
what was needed since we are working off an old list. Mangold suggested there should be benches around the
rink. Commissioners discussed keeping better track of the number of rink users.
Nielsen moved on to discussions of Freeman Park. Hartmann indicated there was a drainage issue in the fields.
Mangold stated the fence needs work on all the fields. The fences curled on the bottom. Mangold asked that a
column be added which showed the date of last review. Vassars suggested the document be used as part of the
park tours. Notes could be made then of when the next review could occur.
Nielsen stated the batting cage should be replaced by Little League. He stated it should be replaced every fifteen
years, and replacement was long overdue. Mangold stated the one on field #3 was installed recently. The one
over at field #2 wasn’t as new. Nielsen stated he would verify dates with Brown.
Fencing was also discussed. Nielsen stated he would get replacement costs.
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Mangold stated the trail was a conversation piece for resurfacing, and this needed to be included in the CIP.
Commissioners and staff discussed trail replacement. Hartmann stated something needed to be done especially
because of proximity to senior housing.
Nielsen stated the volleyball court replacement was marked for 21 years. He also discussed Eddy Station
maintenance. The hockey rink would be discussed in March. The picnic shelter was reroofed in 2009. We
should look at the grade and columns. All the picnic tables were replaced. Tot lot replacement costs are shown
lower. Nielsen stated tot lot replacement would be re-evaluated after the park tour.
Nielsen noted the skate park would be discussed in April. Commissioners discussed maintenance at Manor Park.
Nielsen stated a rain garden idea was abandoned at Manor. Hartmann stated it was discussed putting up gutters.
Nielsen stated he would check with Engineering. Hartmann asked if the soggy area near the community tree
would be discussed. Nielsen stated the entire area is part of a proposed drainage fix.
6. NEW BUSINESS
Nielsen stated we did get approved for a $200,000 grant for Badger Park. He stated he met with lacrosse
representatives to find the needed funding to cover the entire cost. It was decided there needed to be bids to
determine much of a gap existed in order to know. Given what lacrosse and football have planned to
contribute, we could be close. He stated it could be completed this summer.
Vassars asked if the snow sculptures could be done next year. Nielsen stated he recommended it not be
done. They could at some point in the future be placed along a walkway.
Commissioners discussed timing and the bidding schedule. Mangold asked if the Park Commission would
get to see the final bids. Nielsen stated it would come back to the Commission.
Nielsen stated the Eagle Scout who had offered to build a flag pole has withdrawn his offer.
7. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Labadie updated the Commission on recent City Council actions. The Council thanked the Parks Commission
for all their hard work to get the grant.
B. Staff
No further report.
8. ADJOURN
Hartmann moved, Stelmachers seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of January 12, 2016
at 8:09 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
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