022817 Park Minutes
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2017 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1.CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Mangold convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A.Roll Call
Present: Chair Mangold, Commissioners Vassar, Rock (arrived at 7:15), and
;
BarrCity Council Liaison Labadie; City Planner Nielsen
Absent: Kobs
B.Review Agenda
Vassar moved to approve the agenda as written. Barr seconded the motion. Motion carried 3-
0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of January 10, 2017
Mangold moved to approve the minutes of the, January 10, 2017 meeting as written. Barr
seconded the motion. Motion carried 3-0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. LACROSSE REPRESENTATIVE
Lacrosse Representative, Steve Well discussed the plan for a wall which is used for lacrosse
practice. It would be eight feet high by twenty feet long. Barr asked if there could be greenery
on one side. Steve Well stated that would be a possibility.
Commissioners discussed the location. Nielsen stated it was proposed for the northwest corner.
Vassar asked what the odds would be those practicing would miss the ball. Steve Well stated it
would be likely but no more likely than when kids play catch. Vassar stated landscaping should
be considered in the area.
Rock arrived at 7:15 p.m.
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Mangold asked if safety netting would be needed. Steve Well stated those practicing would be 4-
6’ from the wall and would be directly in front of the wall.
Mangold asked what kind of construction timeline is proposed. Steve Well stated it would be
constructed in the early spring.
Barr suggested greenery be planted as soon as possible. Mangold suggested painting the wall to
soften the look.
Mangold asked if the lacrosse group would be responsible for the upkeep of the wall. Steve Well
stated they would do that.
Vassar suggested painting a logo on the back of the wall.
Mangold asked if there could be an allowance for future landscaping. Nielsen suggested
landscaping be planted right away. Mangold asked if a landscape plan would be needed. Nielsen
stated he didn’t think a formal plan would be needed.
Rock stated he wasn’t thrilled with the proposed location and suggested turning it 90 degrees and
turning it to the south. Nielsen discussed opportunities for fine tuning the location and
landscaping options.
Steve Well stated they would be open about determining a final location after they’ve reviewed
the site.
Nielsen stated the soil will need to be able to hold the wall up, and there is very bad soil there. If
pilings or deep footings are needed, it could cost more. He stated if the Commission is agreeable
to approve, there should be a condition to require this if needed.
Mangold moved, Rock seconded to recommend approval of the wall construction subject to
approval of the City Engineer in the northwest corner of the practice facility with a $2,000
allowance for landscaping. Motion carried 4-0.
Nielsen stated there isn’t anything budgeted for bleachers in Badger Park. Mangold stated we can
look at that for the future.
5. BADGER PARK
Playground Equipment
Nielsen stated we talked about the next phase of this project. He discussed using the proposed village
green area for picnicking. He suggested landscaping to soften the view of the lacrosse practice wall.
He noted two sets of playground equipment are shown in the plan now, and staff is recommending
combing the two sets. He suggested using some of the equipment already there.
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Commissioners discussed pricing, ADA compliance, and mat materials.
Mangold asked the Commission for input on what kind of equipment would be needed. Rock stated
we would need to work the area we have. Nielsen stated the area is more than double what currently
exists. He stated a company from Chaska will come out to talk to the Commission about their
playground needs. Nielsen discussed the possibility of refurbishing the existing equipment which would
involve new coatings.
Mangold favored all new equipment. Nielsen stated $130,000 is budgeted for playground equipment.
Rock discussed how a contractor could help with the design and layout of the equipment.
Commissioners discussed combining play areas. Vassar discussed adding a sand/water table. Barr
suggested a climbing wall. Commissioner agreed to combine play areas and have one large structure.
Labadie suggested an add-on piece for special needs users.
Commissioners discussed juggling the pinwheel area around to accommodate the playground location.
Barr asked if we could get a rough idea of the playground area size. Nielsen stated that could be
calculated. Mangold stated we would run out of budget before we run out of space. He stated he
wanted to be mindful of not changing the elements that we wanted to begin with. Nielsen stated the
proximity of the play area to the lacrosse practice area will not be an issue. The landscaping will catch
any flyaway balls before they get to the play area.
Vassar asked what else would lacrosse need for the field. Nielsen stated they will be needing storage
space.
Tennis Courts
Nielsen discussed grant opportunities for tennis courts and dollar amount limits. He stated there was a
quote received for refurbishing for $107,000.
Vassar suggested fundraising opportunities such as buy a brick. Nielsen stated it was done before and
was not a popular fundraiser. Other fundraisers were discussed.
Nielsen stated sketches would be brought back showing concepts of the areas for playground
equipment.
Commissioners discussed the uses for the storage building. Mangold believed there should be year-
round restrooms. Nielsen suggested a three-season restroom so water can be shut off during the
winter as there are cost savings.
Mangold asked if there was an update on the sidewalk construction. Nielsen stated he talked to
the City Engineer about constructing the sidewalk when the parking lot is constructed, and the
cost become out of control. It is now being scaled down and will be back to the City Council on
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March 13. Mangold was concerned about WSB’s engineering costs. Labadie suggested going to
the March 13 meeting to voice concerns.
6.SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY PARK – PARKING LOT/PICKLE BALL
Nielsen stated the original goal was to use the existing pavement for pickle ball. He discussed
using Public Works for some of the work with the goal being to stay within the $50,000
budgeted.
Vassar suggested it be made usable as a tennis court as well. Nielsen stated he would research the
possibility. He stated there might be grant money for it.
7.SUMMER PROGRAMS
Mangold stated Twila does a great job with the programs. The Movie in the Park will be moving
to Freeman Park due to construction. He asked for input on whether it should continue given
how costly it is. Nielsen stated the attendance wasn’t very good last year. Vassar stated it rained.
Mangold believed it should be done as it is very popular. Commissioners discussed the time of
year for the movie. Labadie suggested adding a theme to the event or having a costume contest.
Nielsen suggested having face painting. Movie choices will be brought back to a future meeting.
8.DETERMINE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR
Rock moved, Vassar seconded to appoint Mangold as Chair for 2017. Motion carried 4-0.
Mangold stated currently Kobs is Vice Chair. Mangold asked Rock if he would be interested in
serving.
Mangold moved, Barr seconded to appoint Rock as Vice Chair. Motion carried 4-0.
9.DETERMINE LIAISONS
Mangold – March 13
Barr – March 27
Rock – April
Kobs - May
Vassar – June
10.NEW BUSINESS
Vassar asked if someone could be hired or dedicated to doing the work in the parks. Nielsen
stated there is one individual in Public Works who is in charge of the parks. Nielsen stated there
is a click it function on the website that reports issues. Vassar stated she would like someone
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whose first priority is the parks. Nielsen stated that is what Chris Pounder does. On a different
subject, Nielsen stated the City Council would like to attend the park tours this year. Mangold
suggested having maintenance standards for all the parks. Vassar suggested it could be
determined when the park tours are done. Mangold stated we should review park standards at
the March meeting.
11. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Labadie updated the Commission on recent City Council actions. They modified their ordinance to
regulate short term rental housing.
B. Staff
Nielsen stated his schedule is still up in the air.
12. ADJOURN
Vassar moved, Barr seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of February 28, 2017
at 9:01 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder