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1964 pl mn . e - SHOREWOOD VILLA.GE PLANNING COMMISSIai Minutes of the Meeting January 29, 1964 The meeting was called to order at 7:'5 P.M. by our chairman, Robt. McDougall. All commission members were present; to wit, Messrs. McDougall, Thos. Sage, Robt. Clyborne, R. Bartholow, R. Leavenworth, and MInes. H. Setnan and R. Goodman. Dr. Leavenworth could only stay for the first half hour, but explained that he would try to avoid a conflict of appointments for next month's meeting. Mr. McDougall briefed new members on the function of the planning commission. Mr. Janvrin explained that the commission should make recommendations to the village council on land use problems. l4rs. Setnan volunteered to be telephone chairman, specifically to advise members of upcoming meetings and the probable agenda. Impromptu meetings, for the purpose of looking at property being considered for a change in land use, will be called together by each commission member calling the next one on the address list. Mr. H. C. Lund presented a plat of property he owns in Auditors Subdivision 1'5. Lot sizes, road requirements and front footage were unacceptable and he was referred to Schoell and Madson, village engineers, for their recommendations. Mr. Lund left our meeting and, subsequently, Mr. McDougall said he would call Mr. Lund on January '0 and direct him to our village clerk for a copy of our subdivision ordinance which he should ask his surveyor to obey. . Mrs. Frank Fox presented a plat of two lots which have previously been recorded. One lot is accessible to a public road only by an easement across the Fox property. No decision was necessary on our part; a. legal agreement between the two parties involved will suffice. Mr. Glen Aske requested a special permit to establish a Western and English Wear display room on his residential property. He has a small building on his 8 acres at the corner of Linden Drive and Yellowstone Trail which would be used. A driveway with parking space leads up to the building and customers would come by appointment only. Neighbors on adjoining property have told the Askes that they would not object to the operation of this business. Mr. Bartholow motioned that we recommend approval by the village council Mr. Aske's request for a special permit to oonduot a Western and English Wear display room on his property. Mr. Sage seconded and the motion passed unanimously. Mrs. Setnan suggested that Mr. Aske have all his neighbors sign a petition approving the proposed enterprise so that it will not be necessary for the village council to hold a public hearing. Violation of height requirements, Ordinance 8, Sec. 6, Item 10, on the Naegele ~ence were explained by Mr. McDougall who had talked with Mr. Naegele's representative, He G. Murfill. The fence cost $2,000 but is not finished yet. The wood will be treated with a surface application. Mr. Naegele wanted the fence to shield his property from car headlights and group activities on the Svithiod Home grounds. Mr. Murfin said the posts are 7 feet, 8 inches high. However, Mr. Clyborne and Mrs. Goodman estimated that the fence is ten feet high where it extends over the low area. Mr. Bartholow moved that a special permit be issued to Mr. Naegele for the existing fence, and that Mr. Naegele be reminded that the permit is for the existing fence; any new fence construction in violation of our ordinance will be subject to penalty as prescribed in Ordinance 8. Mr. Sage seoonded the motion but it failed to oarry. Messrs. Bartholow, Sage, and McDougall voted yes; Mr. Clyborne and Mmes. Setnan and Goodman abstained. - 2 - Idr. Clyborne moved that the secretary write a letter requesting Mr. Naegele to conform to the requirements of Ordinance 8. Mrs. Goodman seconded. This motion also failed for lack of majority favor. Mmes. Setnan and Goodman and tit Mr. Clyborne voted yes. Messrs. Sage, Bartholow and McDougall voted no. The subject was tabled until all members of the commission have had the opportunity to see the fence in question. A formal method of procedure was discussed so that any member who is approached about changes to be made in land use should refer the inquirer to our village clerk for a copy of the ordinance(s) which applies to their request. In cases of platting of land, Ordinance '0 covering subdivisions should be obtained by the prospective subdivider and he should be advised to have his surveyor conform to all requirements if he wishes prompt expedition of approval. Mr. Bartholow asked for an explanation of the 40,000 sq. ft. requirement for lots in new subdivisions. Mr. Janvrin referred to the sewage disposal problem facing villages such as Mlnnetonka with half acre lots; it is hoped that our larger lots will help forestall the need of municipal sewage disposal. Mrs. Goodman mentioned that improvements in private"disposal systems may in time eliminate the notion that municipal sewage networks are the superior method. Mr. Janvrin referred also to the effort of holding down school costs by aiming for as Iowa residential density as feasible; the 40,000 sq. ft. lots could serve to cut in half our population saturation total. Mr. Clyborne moved we adjourn and Mr. McDougall closed the meeting. Respectfully submitted, e CJ1 ? . , /~ / I L.t\.-.L-<-"OJ ~ 11/l.-th"--' Marion Goodman Secretary me; . . . .e SHOBEWOOD VILLAGE PLANNING COMMISSION I'41nutes of the Meeting February 26, 1964 The meeting was held in the library of Minnewashta Grade School and was called to order at 7:;5 P.M. All members of the commission and Mr. Janvrin were present. The minutes of the January 29 meeting were read with no additions or corrections. H. ~ Murfin explained the screening effect hoped for in the construction of Mr. Naegele's fence which is in violation of Ordinance 8 height requirements. Discussion touched on the following: the fence does shield the Naegele property from the Svithiod Home ground activities, but is ineffective against car headlights because of the roadside terrain which dips too low to make even a ten foot fence useful. 1fr. Naegele is not satisfied with the structure of the fence and has expressed the hope of improving its appearance to Mr. Murfin. Mr. Murfin believes that the only we:y to correct the roadside proble:m is to plant evergreens. Dr. Leavenworth and Mr. Hartholow stated that our prime consideration must be limited to the decision of whether or not a special permit would have been recommended by our commission had we been consulted prior to the construction of the fence. No intentional violation was made. Mr. Sage moved that we recommend to the village council that a special permit be issued for the portion of Mr. Naegele's fence already constructed. Mr. Bartholow seconded. The vote was six yes; Mr. Clyborne abstained. We as a commission, for the record, believe that the planting of evergreens along the roadside would be desirable. Mr. H. C. Lund was present to discuss the division of his property in Auditors Subdivision 155. Mr. Schoell, the village engineer, failed to show up with recommendations for the proper dissection of this parcel. However, Mr. Mc- Dougall briefed us on his study of the area with Idr. Janvrin and Mr. Schoell. In consideration of the terrain and surrounding development, two lots approximately ;5,000 square feet in size can be platted along the east roadside of Mr. Lund's property. Presently an easement for driveway will be used to reach Mr. Lund's house, but eventually a. road will be needed bordering the west lot line in order to accommodate other lots in the sub- division of land. This can wait until that time when adjoining property owners decide to split their parcels. Mr. Sage moved that we recommend the division of Mr. Lund's property with two lots along the east road be approved based on the specifications of our village engineer. Dr. Leavenworth and Mr. Clyborne seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. Mr. 1l{cDougall will request Schoell and Madson to mail sketches of the recommended division to Mr. Lund, Elsa Wiltsey and himself. The Meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, --, ..J Marion GOodman Secretary mg MINUTES OF TEE MEETING: Shorewood ViillagePlanni~gCommission April 22., 1964 . Mr. MoDougall oalled the meeting to order with all members and Mr. Janvrin in attendance at the Minnewashta Elementary school library. First order of business wa$ the M. Ahrendt property which borders crescent Beaoh at the Tonka B!ily-Shorewood boundary. Mrs. L. W. Hagen explained that she and her hu.sband are negotiating to buy this property and are seeking an acceptable method of dividing it in half. Although the total square footage is about 87,000, the land already has two dwellings, one a single family home, the other an apartment over the garage. The Hagens would like to have these two buildings on one lot and build either a one or two-family dwelling on the proposed biseotion. The lot lines described in the letter Mrs. Hagen submitted were not comparable to the verbal description by the present owner. Because of the indefinite information available to us, we suggested that Mrs. Hagen have the property surveyed to establish exact lines and footage, and also to contact Bay Friede, our assessor, to determine ownership of the entire parcel of Lot 1 in this subdivision. - Mr. MCDougall announced that the proposed revisions to our zoning ordinance were rejected by a ; for, 1 against, 1 abstaining vote of the village council. Mr. McDougall, Mr. Janvrin and Mrs. GOodman reviewed the background work whic:h had been oonducted during the past year involving several meetings with the professional planning oonsultant, Mr. Wehrman. Mr. Janvrin commented that, in the absence of industrial and commercial development possibilities, our village should try to maintain a high valuation of lakeshore properties. In the event we take no preventative steps, our lakeshore may someday be predominantly owned .by boating fraternities, deteriorating not only a speoific site, but adjaoent property as well. Unless we restrict' number of docks per paroel and permit. residential buildings for single family use, we may somed~ faoe a predominantly transient group controlling our lakeshore, leaving us with an overwhelming policing responsibility and a deterioration of lakeshore values. Mrs. Goodman stated that she is opposed to duplexes because they defeat the aim for low residential density, but agreed with. Mr. MCDOugall that we migh~ over-legislate ourselves by trying to forbid them entirely. It is doubtful that any large duplex developments will be built, and if duplex construction seems to get out of hand our ordinance oould be revised again at a later date. The proposed ordinanoe would have assured us a continued high lakeshore evaluation and would have isolated the construction of apartment building., to an area along the munioipal sewer line. It is hoped that further consider- ationcan be given to make this ordinanoe palatable to our council. The meeting was adjourned. ~.P.O~~llY 8U,b7Ud. ~nJif ~~?~~ Marion K. Goodman Secretary . SHOREWOOD VIL.LA.GE PLlNNING COMMISSI(lIl - The Shorewood Planning Oommission met at 7:,0 P.M. Wednesday, May 27, 1964, at Minnewashta School to hear the request of Mr. John L. l\van for permission to build a seoond house on his ~,400 sq. ft. lot. Mr. l\van stated he wished to have the home built for his 70 year old parents; that his own house faces on Lee Circle but the proposed house would face Birch Bluff Road; that the house he proposed would be an attractive two-bedroom home, for which he showed the plans; that the well and drain field were so planned as to cause no health hazard, having the required 50 ft. between them; that no garage is proposed, nor could there be an attached garage beoause of the lot size; and that the required 80 ft. frontage on Birch Bluff Road had been allowed. Lowell Frost, builder, was present, and gave each member a lot sketch showing the location of Mr. Ryan's present home and that of the proposed house. He also pre- sented the preliminary house plans. The Chairman read the specific provision of Ordinance No.8, Subdivision " relat- ing to building site regulations. He said one reason for the 40,000 sq. ft. requirement is the sewer situation, and another is the type of environment Shorewood residents desire to maintain, though he also said the Planning Oommission recognizes some faotors in some cases warrant specific consideration. e Points oovered in discussion included the fact the house is to be a two-bedroom home, and thus not a potential home for a large family upon sale, though a buyer might have in mind adding on to it; that the Oommission opens itself up to other s~ll lot requests from a number of persons who might similarly like to provide housing for parents in their later years; that the four lots were platted by Mr. Lee in 1959, at which time he had requested more lots be allowed than the four present, sub-standard size lots; that when the older Lee homes and outbuildings on Biroh Bluff Road are replaced, very likely the owner would want to oonsolidate the present lots in order to meet all requirements, since the corner home is over the roadway; and that Mr. Ryan could consider the possibility of building his proposed house as a twin bungalow addition to his present home. The Chairman said the Commission would discuss hi. request further, advise the Village Olerk of its recommendation, and regardless of its decision, it would be brought before the Village Council at its next meeting for final decision. Mr. Ryan thanked the members for meeting with him, and Mr. Frost and he left. The Chairman reviewed the above discussion, and there were further remarks saying the owner would, in effect, be building the house for speoulative purposes since his folks are already in their 70s; that he had investigated the platting and knew it to be sub-standard; that the lot across Lee Circle now owned by Lowell Frost could be bought for building the separate home; and that while they were in sympat~ with his wishes, there was really no justification for granting his request. The Chairman asked those in favor of Mr. Ryan's requ6st to so indioate. Two in favor; four opposed. The Chairman said the Olerk would be sO advised, speoifically mentioning the present sub-standard size of his lot. -1'" . e Dr. Leavenworth read a letter he had reoeived from Bob Phelps of Wildrose Lane asking him to asoertain the opinion of the Planning Commission on his building a barn for storage of Old Log Theatre equipment. Mr. Phelps has 9 aores of land, which is ample for an "accessory building." However, the problem of its use for commercial purposes would make it necessary to obtain a speoial use permit. The members also questioned the reason for building a storage place so far from the theatre. At this point, Don Stolz, Producer and Director of the Old Log Theatre, arrived at the meeting. He advised the members, as had Mr. Phelps through his letter, that the Old Log Theatre wished to fulfill the need for a Children's Theatre and an opportunity for young players to gain experience by re...opening the original Old Log Theatre, which is now used for storage. It is inadequate for such purpose because of its steeply sloping roof. He also said fill for the swamp area would be prohibitively expensive. Since ~~. Phelps had written his letter, Mr. Stolz had inquired about the Deephaven Bus Garage, talked with the Mayor, who in turn had polled the Council members con- cerning their opinion for using the Garage for storage by the Old Log. He said the Council members are all favorable, as is the immediate neighbor, Mr. Ray Friede. Mr. Stolz said he had considered buying under a Oontract for Deed, or buying it outright. He said it might be difficult to get a mortgage because he would have to get another special use permit. It was called to his attention that it might be well to check with the Village Attorney on the matter. e Mr. Stolz also asked if there were any agricultural property available in the village which might be considered by him. The Chairman reviewed the commercial areas, but in comparison with the Deephaven Bus Garage, which is ideal for his purposes both from the standpoint of size and proximity to the theatre, there seemed to be nothing suitable. One possibility might be the property adjacent to the Shorewood Nursery. Mr. Janvrin said the Village Council had asked Mr. Roger Hennessey to find property for storing village trucks and equipment, but he had been unable to do so because anything large enough was located adjacent to neighbors who objected. The Commission members generally agreed the Deephaven Bus Garage might be the most ideal spot for the Old Log, and a good solution to its disposition, particularly since Mr. Stolz mentioned they would improve its appearance. Meeting adjourned. ,,-.R~sy.ectfUllY s~~tt.ee.d dyv --r--. .... ,y.;CL~ 7~ el~ Harriet R. Setnan .j Secretary pro tem PRESENT: Bob McDougall, Dick Bartholow, Bob Clyborne, Diok Leavenworth, TomeSage, Harriet Setnan, (Ben Janvrin from the Council) John L. Ryan, Lowell Frost, Don Stolz - ., . . SliOREWOOD VILUGE PLANNING COMMISSION The meeting convened shortly after 7:00 P.M. at the James Marshall residence on Eureka Road. I~. Marshall and contractor Lowell Frost described the plat, using a drawing and front stakes, which the lvIarshalls want to divide in half. The boundaries at present are 200 ft. on Eureka Road, thence west 462 ft. on each side, tapering, so that 100 ft. bounds the back. Divided, each lot would contain ,4,650 sq. ft. or .796 acre. We retired to Minnewashta School grounds where Mr. McDougall asked for further discussion or questions. The existing garage will be moved behind the existing house to keep the old buildings all on one lot. The sewage system was improved in 1957 and is contained on that lot also. Mr. Bartholow moved and l~s. Setnan seconded that we recommend the proposed division be approved by the village council. Motion passed unanimously. Respectfully ~ubmitted, ./ ( '" ,. c:t ,'- t! ~ I.. Marion K. Goodman Secretary mg PRESENT: Bob McDougall, Dick Bartholow, Bob Clyborne, Tom Sage, Harriet Setnan, Marion Goodman (Ben Janvrin from the Council) Mr. and Mrs. James Marshall, Lowell Frost ......M~~_.":....._,,.;._,_-....;.. .".' t --, I I > '1 ',J '~., . '1 ,..... ! ;: ';: " : J~-j ~,1 ~.4 ::. J '" '-') ..,... -!~ 1- t;:l. ~ v, '-,--",-"-"'--- ;, ,~~ ,/ ~., .. \..~ \\- ~ \ V l ~ ('\ "'" . ~ '''- ~ 'I ,~l 'l;;:"] I. I --...' i -~ -.' .... '-t U , I r 1 ~. ~ ~ . it ~ r- 01 'v1 '~1 I ~j '~i l:)=~t \ . I I "'" '"") ":l:, :t~. .,) ..._ V ~""'l' <lo.l-'l ~ .~ QJ ;-< !) ti 0.) '- ~. ."'....:': _----------~'-"i-.- ) .I ,,:~', --------.-- ~-,---- I' I . I ->1 1\ ~< ,~-;t . ,;,,,'~~ ..,. . <: ~'/~~17",- I ...., ~' (~' -,\ '-/'\~ -' .~ ~l ." .,"':3 i\", -~ ~ ..... '" '"-' \. . . ."") ...~ ..,:; t__"" ....::'. .'_"::,'c_ \t '. .;,. .......... ';'''' /' ',1 ? r~" ... l.1 .~-- ---... c't. './'~- ~-', ....;~ ..r'\ -,;...... "';- '",,;'.., ,..... ", .....t <. ~ ";' .1:---... ~~;" ~~ /',~ ((1 't-o ,.... " ~, .,~~,~ ~~ .I.~ -.:.. ,/: ,~ '/') t'J t{,...I .,.-.:. "' ...... 'l't-- .-t. \.:.., ~ l' '.\-~ ;. ." . .. . SHOREWOOD VILLAGE PLANNING OOMMISSION September ;0, 1964 The planning commission met at !-1innewashta Elementary School library at 71;0 P.M. 1m. Schmokel of Valley Engineering Co. and Messrs. Schulleen and Berglund presented the preliminary plat drawing of Oak Ridge, a subdivision under development across Edgewood ROad from the Svithiod Home Grounds. All lots and road len~ths and widths I ' 0 complied with Ordinance #50. Park property in excess of l~~ of the total acreage being divided has been included. Mr. Wm. Schoell, our village engineer, had promised that a representative from his firm would be present to confirm suitability of road grades and drainage, and advise on potential development of the parkland. Mr. Schmokel asked us whether or not fill will have to be supplied by the developers to improve the park area and the extent of their responsibility in clearing the creek channel to drain the property. Oonsensus of members was that a recommendation should be obtained from Schoell and Madsen. Harriet Setnan moved that we recommend acceptance of the preliminar,y plat subject to approval by the village engineers. Mr. Clyborne seconded and the motion passed unanimously. Mr. MCDougall asked Mrs. Goodman to contact Mr. Schoell by phone and mail to obtain the needed information. Robt. Reutiman presented plans for a drive-in which he wants to build on Highw~ 7 and County Road 41. A series of external "AU frames will support the main building with a large patio having a seating capacity for 60 people. The parking lot will hold 72 cars. Lights will be concealed from the immediate neighbors because of the high embankment surrounding the area. Initially the drive-in would not be open 24 hours a day. Mr. Reutiman also requested permission to re-locate Woodruff Avenue to the extent of straightening it at a right angle from Highway 7. Lots on both sides of Woodruff are owned by Mr. Reutiman. Dr. Leavenworth moved that we recommend acceptance of the preliminary plans, including re-location of Woodruff Ave., for approval by the village council. Mr. Clyborne seconded and the motion passed unanimously. Mr. Palmer Michelson from Tonka Bay outlined a proposal to develop 6.9 acres at the corner of Glen Road and County Road 19. The plan would have included six Town House units with a series of six homes to a unit and a possible maximum of 40 dwellings. The 2 bedroom home would rent for $150-$165 a month and the ; bedroom for $185 per month. The; bedroom h~~e would sell for from $12,900-$14,500. The proposal could not be encouraged because no sewage facilities will be available for possibly years to come. Mr. Michelson said he would investigate the possibilites where the sewer does exist near Highway 7 and County Road 41. Mrc. Goodman asked \ihether or not there is any lever we can use to spur improvements on Highway 7 either with left turn lanes or islands at some of the Shorewood inter- sections. She also wondered if the road crew (Shorewood) could be given an extension of their present assignment so as to develop playground areas in neighborhoods where park property and children do exist. Mr. McDougall asked Mrs. Goodman to assemble as much information as possible on current park-playground activity and present it at the next meeting. Present: Bob McDo.gall, Bob Clyborne, Ben Janvrin, Harriet Setnan, Diok Leavenworth, r~rion Goodman R.,~spect~llY ~u~.,. tted.,. 1J ~n'uf(_f;}r~l~ Marion K. Goodman Secretary ".'."~'. '..:y.i\' . . IIGIIWCOD VILUGI 'LAllI. OOfllllaIOca rt Ooto\'>o.. I, 1964 .,.. lobo" Boutu.. Dea.. ..... hutl_l11 '111"0 Olerk, 11.... IUt..". baa &4",1_ .. \h..\ our .....i"'loa...,...,l.. lOW" ...._It tor a .,..bl ,.~\ to ~utnaet .. 4rs......la OIl, B1~7." OO\lm., 10.&4 4~ .111 bo 41aoua_at,ta. 001,0-'.1' 12 0-0.11 _trtl.. . A' that \1_ tu OftDoU ,,111 _.1" _h.th.r .J" DOt. a pu1ltlle Ma,l. eual' M h.lel. It a haul.. 1. "'.11'''', .. ....ft 4.., dvano. notice -.t. ~.' publ1l1he4 . Tn. not1.. woulll a,pear in "he'Clotober l' ...... of tbe ......d-'o........ \he eulle.' ,...lb1. h..rl. el.t.. would be Oot.ber 22. T_ 'flU..... 001lllGll ..t.e at 11~ P.M. 1. the Mlnnevallht.a .....1 I1b,..,.,.. lIhoul4 ,.,," neh to .1'''''1' 1n 1O\tJ' bebalt. rove trW.l, .. _'1011 I. Go..... ......,...., P. s. '-- If' you can obtain a .petition" signed by the immediate neighbo,rs stating that they de not objeot to' this enterprise, the necessity for a public hearing may be withdrawn. MKG '.. to\l". tNly, N. ,,>'-. 'I~'ooa nlUU PLdIDIe, '-'111.. i. ,~.-,' ,,: r Get...... I. .1"'" ,-p',";1 .... 1m. IobOoit ,0 I. 9tth A"e. Hopld..., tQ.M.. DMr Mr. 8ohooU", &1. Ow:' teptMM.. ,0. .nl., ". ..... ....1. ,.. -...... ...t..s.... . . .......D4at1"" toM 'U't.. to\lllOU " the Oak-.... ....,.........: 1ft tbe ......_ 01' Il ......nct..tlo. troa 7ftI' tlra. ," Mr. Va, SobMkel'..t tbe V.ll.,In.slftHr1. 00. ..IIM .. ,..~~ .nn\ \h4t....loper "0.14 b. ....'oft.lbl. tor t1111., t.U. pad, . ...... uc1 ol.....l. tbe creek O_11M! J and also "he~"" ."j not. .""". park ..... ..1Ild. .. "~." partl..11, ... a 1."". ...".....t..l..;";' ....1'. cU. _tt..l .-11tl.4 to ,1.e .,..ltlolQa'irgftl..... wow. .."......". '0\11' p..oapt. !'Me.I._totou to Mr.""_l. , ,~,-,. " We 414p.... 8; .....l\1'\lOft 1'80GlBI~tn41D1 aooeptan.oe .ft.hit ,,~1"" .'. pl.' bl t.he 1":11... Oo_.U ..,..t to. ap,rovalbl' ,be 'lU"" .1111...... IIC ... Is. IoblloJcel ~' .. ~"~,,i 1 ;> Schoell <~ ' and -- Madson ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS . October 12, 1964 Village of Shorewood c/o Mrso Elsa Wiltsey, Clerk Box 301 Excelsior, Minn. Subject: Review of Preliminary Plat of "Oak Ridge" Gentlemen: We have reviewed the preliminary plat of "Oak Ridge" as sub- mitted by Valley Engineering Co. and have the following comments: LOT SIZE AND ARRANGEMENT The road arrangement looks good. There does not appear to be need for roadway access from this subdivision to other adjacent properties, although it might be gained by extending the cul-de- sac labeled "Circle 'B'" westward with provision for a temporary turnaround until the extension is needed. e We recommend that a minimum width of 30' be dedicated for the one-half width of Edgewood Road along the north side of this plat. This will require some slight rearrangement of lots in this tier to maintain the 40,000 square foot minimum area but it can be done be including a little less in the swampy area noted as "Park". We also recommend some rearrangement in lot lines at Lots 2, 3, 5 and 6, Block 3, so that lot lines will more nearly inter- sect the street line at right angles. Because of the legal entanglements involved in park dedica- tion, we recommend that the area so noted be made an outlot and the title be given to the Village of Shorewood. This will give the village a more workable control of the area and allow its continuing use as a drainage sump if needed. Also. any excess dirt developed during grading operations may be placed in this outlot and rough graded to drain to the creek. DRAINAGE AND STREET GRADES - e Street grades appear satisfactory. Several are not shown in detail but it appears that proper drainage may be developed. We do not know the total drainage area draining through the low area to the lake (through the Naegele property to the north- east). Perhaps the subdivider's engineer can make a study to det- ermine this so that the culvert needed under Svithiod Road at StaG 11+60 and at 19+50 can be determined. There shoUti also be two catch basins at each of these locations, rather than a spillway wlg'(lWl'l DtheH~ll slope e CARLISLE MADSON PHONE 938-7614 . 50 NINTH AVENUE SOUTH, HOPKINS, MINNESOTA e e . .. Village of Shorewood Page 2 October 12, 1964 There is the need for an additional drainage easement from. the swampy area leading to the existing 12" culvert under Edgewood Road, which drains excess runoff to Lake Minnetonka. If a pond development was wanted, a catch basin could be constructed at the inlet end of this culvert so as to retain water until it reached the desired elevation. WE believe it is understood that all drainage easements form- ing a part of the subdivision drainage system should be graded to provide unobs.tructed flow. GENERAL In order not to delay the progress of this preliminary plat, you might give approval, subject to any or all of the above sugges- tions, all of which can be made by submission of a revised plat drawing. We recommend approval with the changes suggested above. Very truly yours, u;O VI LLAGe6'GINEER WDSchoell :sd . . . Shorewood Village PlaP.ning Commission October 28, 1964 The meeting was called to order b;t Chairman 1,rcDougall who introduced John Adams, Skip Sampson (Richard L.), and Village Engineer Carl l.fu.dson to present information regarding a plat of la..1'1d in the Woodside Road area. They showed three different dra\dngs of possible subdivision and asked for comments to guide them in developing a preliminary plat. No final conclusions were reached. Mr. and Nrs. Ed SJrlith from the Wee Acres section were called on to describe the enterprise which i'Irs. Smith operates in her home. About eight neighbors were on hand in the interest of keeping commercial activity out of a residential area. Mrs. Smith described herself as an ffAntique Hobbyest", said she occasionally advertises to sell items stored in her garage and unfinished recreation room, has a small sign under her mailbox which reads "Antiques", encourgges people to come on Tuesdays or Thursdays by l'lord-of-mouth, and has a circular driveway for cars to park off the road. Her home is located on a 2 acre lot with vacant lots both to the east and west. The neighbor directly across the street from the Smith home said that he has noticed an increase in traffic and particularlJr of cars parked on the road, but couldn't estimate the number of cars or days of activity. The other :Lneighbors questioned whether or not this is a commercia1 operation. rimes. Setnan and Goodman pointed out that issuance of a special use permit could include precise limitations for Mrs. Smith to observe in the regularity and extent of advertising, hours or days of operation, use of a sign, and other points of concern to her neighbors. ~lrs. Good.man moved that we recommend the village council issue a special use permit for one year for Mrs. Smith to operate an antique sales business from her home. ViI'S. Setnan seconded. The motion was defeated with ViI's. Goodman and Hrs. Setnan voting yes, and the other four members voting no. No resolution was adopted but further discussion revealed a consensus of opinion that commercial activity should be kept out of residential neighborhoods. Dr. Leavemrorth felt that issuance of a special permit would be a ffpermissive" step and he didn't feel that, to date, there is evidence of sufficient commercial activity to constitute a violation of our ordinance. 1>Iessrs. Clyborne and Bartholow agreed that the enterprise is not of a commercial caliber. VlI'. McDougall suggested that the village council inform both sides (l1rs. Smith and her neighbors) that: 1. the sign should be removed 2. no devaluation of surrounding property can be permitted 3. her business cannot alter the character of the area 4. it cannot become a nuisance or menace 5. commercial aspect cannot be increased If any of the above occur, or if there a.re further complaints, Mrs. Smith will be guilty of a misdemeanor subject to the penalties of Ordinance No.8, Section 12. Wm. F. Kelly appeared in behalf of Norman Borgen to present a plat which consolidates lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, Block lh Excelsior Park into two lots measuring 37,169 sq. ft. each. An easement 20 ft. wide will be attached to the existing 10 ft. alley making the lots accessible to public Highway 19. The existing lots are a:gproximately 10,000 sq. ft. and could be used for building purposes. Hrs. Goodman mentioned that though the proposed lots are smaller than 40,000 sq. ft. and are located on an easement, \'le will be more in line with the intent of our subdivision ordinance by accepting the new proposal than we are by leaving it as is. Mr. Bartholow moved that Hr. Borgen's request, as stated in PIr. Kelly's proposed resolution, for the division of his property including the vacation of Water St. on the northerly lot - 2 - Oct. 28, 1964, Shorewood Planning Commission be recommended for awroval by the village council. l'lr. Clyborne seconded.j passed unanimously. . Jack Stansbury reviewed the park-playground situation with us. His original aPLproach would have been for 17 playground sites, but recent acquisition of property by our village near Echo Road and the purchase by Little League, Inc., of 8-~ acres near Connors Corner has alleviated to some degree the pressure for playground land. }fr. Stansbury believes that the entire village should be care- fully scrutinized fer uideal" playground property which a prospective subdivider should be encouraged to dedicate rather than the 8 % tax. He also believes study should be made for the availability of lakeshore to be used in a restricted manner by village residents for access to the lake. He believes this would be cheaper and easier than the other possibi,.i t:r which would be the eventual building of a swimming pool. As an example of the procedure he recommends for the development of a playground, YiI'. Stansbury read a letter which he is going to send to Mayor Badger outlining in consecutive order the steps for making Shady Hills Park usable. Total cost about $300.00, with some work voluntary i.u addition to that of the road crew. Hr. Bartholow asked how we on the planning commission could implement }vIr. Stansbury's efforts and Dr. Leavenworth suggested we put in our minutes - ffGo on parkslff others present affirmed the need for some aggressive action in acquiring property and developing it in line with need. J.Ieeting adjourned. . Respectfully(b~tted' ~ / : /}t-r.-tl1 M, t),U f I ,t"- ~ '"'" Marion K. Goodman Present: Dr. Leavenworth, Hessrs. Bartholow, HcDougal1, Clyborne Mmes. Setnan and Goodman Absent: Tom Sage who has moved away flL(~ )u.iJ d. /l~L14:.~"7-1~ ~~ . LAW OFFICES KELLY AND LEE 351 SECOND STREET EXCELSIOR, MINN, 55331 WILLIAM F. KELLY .N E. LEE, JR. October 21, 1964 GREENWOOD 4-5977 Mr. Robert McDougall Chairman of the Planning Commission Village of Shorewood Rural Route Excelsior, Minnesota Re: Norman A. Borgen Property Division of land Dear Bob: I am enclosing herewith a survey prepared by Schoell-Madson, which shows the property owned by Norman A. Borgen and which also shows the property which has been sold to Bill Kerber and outlined in green. The parcels outlined in red are the two parcels to be divided into separate building site.. When Mr. Borgen sold the parcel outlined in green a 30 foot ease- ment was reserved for access for benefit of the parcel outlined in red. e I believe Mr. Borgen has now met the requirements of the Planning Commission in that the back properties will have access to the extent of a 30 foot easement, and the resolution, which would grand and permit a variance from our subdivision or planning ordinance, could specifically set out the re- quirements previously recommended by the Planning Commission. May I suggest the problem could be solved by the council adopting a resolution, a copy of which I am enclosing herewith. This, of course, depends upon the decision of the Planning Commission and the council or whether or not Water Street, as shown on the enclosed survey, be vacated. I hope that you will be able to take this matter up at your October meeting. Sincerely yours, KELLY .Ai.~D LEE WFK:mw Enclosure ~1' Y'" ",,":""""," ,,/ //~ " Wil~'~? F. Kelly e .. Schoell ][' and ~ Madson ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS t November 25, 1964 VUlage of ShorewoOd c/o Mrs. Elea Wilt,..,., Clerk Box 3U1 EzeelaiOJ', 1I1Dn. SubJect: Reun of .Pre1:hdna17 Plat, awooc:ts1deft Gentlemen: . We haft prepared the prelim1nary plat ot Woodslde for the 48- ftlopers aDd present the fol101lling anal7si8 to lIhotr it. oonformit;r 01" non-oontorml't7 with tb$ platting 0J'd1naDce. STRBI!:l'S The plat hae only one street, a cw...de-sao about 300' long, which 8el'fts three or p08sibq tour of the lots. The max- lmlD 3I'ac!e 1. l~, whiGh obtai_ for SO' ot ita length; a turD81"ound at the bottom of the bill is provided v:lth enough leftl area to get a "startO up the hUl. A abort aubstant1al.l1 flat space 18 provided at the top, on entering Woodside Road, 80 that the entrance 1d.1l be made easier. U. of the ez:1st1ng drlvnq OD Lots S, 6 and 7 "ill be discontinued. w. see nO des11"ab1l1v in requiring the extena10n of the ex- ist1Dg private road located and eDding one lot eastward, through th1a property, e1nae the lo.cation of a homo cn the lot to the e..t, Lot 13, Am. Subd. No. 3f11, would prevent such construction on rea.enable a11pment. ~ A atom sewer is provided at the bottaD of the cul-de-sac to CODV81 road runoff through and betwen sewral lota to Lake II11metonka. Any runoff enter1ng WOOdside Lane haD Wooda1de Road .111 draiD to this catch basin. The omlers teel that the location of the drainage easement across Lot 3 will not hamper its resUlenUal use, am w1ll provide an eftio1eDt method tor dram- ing the back lot areas, which are now drained to the lake with an old go t11e l1De. 1DJ.' UYOT1l Lot areas are sho1m and all are 40,000 square feet or larger. Lots 1, 6 and 7 and poss1bl)r 2 have access from Woodside Road and the remaining lots from the. nev Woodside Lane. Woode1de Road 18 a lightly traveled dead end road. . It 10 our peracmal feeling that the lakeohom, now divided into five lot. of 105' to l1S' frontage, should be divided into four lots of about l3S' frontage in order to more nearly contorm with - other lot developnents 1n the area; hOlTever, the frontages shaem conform \11th the requirements of the ordinance. WILLIAM D. SCHOELL CARLISLE MADSON PHONE 938-7614 . 50 NINTH AVENUE SOUTH. HOPKINS, MINNESOTA .. .. Village of Shorwood Pag0 2 November 25, 1964. . Many different lot attangel"uants flare tried and the pT'Geent layout appom"a to make tho best \W~ or the t01=Ogrspby, although the maximum ctreet grado exceeds the manl?tl.ill noted in the platting 0r- dinance by ~. no .yJb11e raarsa.tion area is dedicated in this plat. nr~09ErULl\1:J:.Qj: In our op1n:1on the two items of non..oonformance with too platting ordi~ce (ezc.sBs1vs livest grade and non..dsd1cation of recreation ~alshow.d not prevent sceaptanee of this p1'"el'.m1nary plat. Possibly otber .ens of compensation may ba reqtd.rsd for tm latter ltem. S1nce the lake lot frantages conform nth the ordinance roquirements, we feal obligated to recommend laccG)p"Genoo of this plat. Very truly yours) ~~ tmSoh~lJ.: ad . . . . . SHOREWOOD VILLAGE PLANNING cO~vrrSSION November 25, 1964 The meeting was held in the Minnewaahta Grade School at 7:30 P.M. Mr. McDougall called on Richard L. Sampson and Loren W. Adams to present the preliminary plat. of their property at Woodside with comments from their surveyor, Carl Madson. Each of the lots conforms in size to our village requirements. The only deviation from our ordinance specifications is in the front footage of two lots on Woodside Lane where the turnaround is abutted by a 90' and 50' lot line. However, the lots thamselves are 107' and 108' wide respectively. Drainage has been provided for by a utility and drain easement bordering and crossing Lot;. According to Mr. Madson this drain easement will not interfere with the sewage system which will serve the home on this lot. Mrs. Setnan<moved, and lvf.r. Stansbury seconded, that the preliminary plat be accepted by the Village oouncil based on the report of our Village Engineer. Passed unanimously. Mr. Madson and his clients left and shortly thereafter Mr. Schoell appeared with the village engineer's report on this subdivision. A letter from Mr. Bud Andrus informed us of his purchase of the Frank Schwartz property. Mr. Andrus(wanted comments from us on what use of this property would be looked on with favor by our Village Cou..."'1cil. Mr. ~.~cDougall and Mr. Janvrin excrJ8Xlged comments regarding our policy to date which has been:.a feeling of responsibility to the neighbors regardless of which village they happen to live in. Any usage of this property would therefore be expected to conform to the lovely residential area near College Lake. However, neither the Planning Oommission nor the Village Council C~l make specific recommendations for the possible development. Bob fvl:cDougall will write Mr. Andrus a letter to this effect. Mrs. Goodman made two comments. The first, regarding our proposed zoning ordinance, was for some restriction on duplexes in order to make this ordinance acceptable to those who objected to the possibility of unrestricted development of duplex areas. ~4r. Janvrin said that a compromise has been reaohed and that the next vote taken by the village council will include a provision for a required public hearing preceding the construction of any duplex in our village. Mrs. Goodman also asked that the Planning Oommission and the Village Council keep an eye on the War on;'Poverty (probably through the Department of Business Develop- ment in St. Paul, Guy Kelnhofer) in case we should qualify at some time under the section which originally designated $;15 million to be used by municipalities in programs to alleviate impoverished conditions. She mentioned problems such as Carmichael's Auto Dump which perhaps could be buffered by a park area bordering the east end of st. Alban's Bay. In the original draft of the Poverty Bill, municipalities could obtain 90% of the cost of these projects from Federal funds. Respectfully submitted, fJ~~ib-.-L~ Marion K. Goodman, Secretary Present: Messrs. McDougall, Janvrin, Clyborne, Stansbury, Dr. Leavenworth, Mnes. Setnan and Goodman Absent: l~. Bartholow , -"~4 ',..; ",",:, 1'r '. '.~ ~.~ -~ . ".- \ "'t:. ~ ; " ,,! t' ..~ -: ','> ,~t-' ,