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MINUTE~S OF SHOREVJCOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING:
Janu.,ry 15, 1969
Minn.waeht~ Sch..l - 7:30 p.m.
Members present:
Dick Bartholow, Chairman
Beb 51.gleH'
Russ Lindquist
Den Erickson
Agenda Item 1 - Clifton Acres Subdivision
This m.eting was the designated public hearing fer the Clifton
Acres Subdivision. Mr. Douglas Clifton, owner, w~s the only
interested p~rty to appear. A letter regarding the Cliften
Acres Subd ivieion fn~m Bernie Mi t telsteildt, Villjl.ge Engin.er,
wlid!presented. This letter Wli>l.S d~ted December 19, 1968, ,jIlnd
listed eight r.c.illmend~tione.
After ai.cuaeiem itw$l s mev.d by Mr. 5iegl.r, sec@nded by ~lr .,.
Li ndquist, i[, nd umomlmeusly carried:
Th~t we recommend the ;,;ccept....nce of the.C:l~tt.n Acres Sub-
division subject to the conditions in Mr. Mittelsteadt's
letter, with the exception of Item No.5, which calls for a
33 fo.t dedicatien by Mr. Clifton fer right-of-way .long
Gr:;;mt Lerenz RCioid. While we recegnize the defini t. need fer
. wider road, w. reel thlt if practical, 16 and one half feet
shtiluld be obt_ined en eiilch f;1de tilf the present reild. Our
reaeons are: 1. Th~t this i8 illere equitable te the ~butting
prCilperty owners.
2. That it i~ ~ better solution when consid-
ering the future widening ef.GrOlnt Lorenz
RGRd beyond the CliftGn preperty.
3. That tho dedicatien of 32 feet of right-of~
WRY by Mr. Clifton ~ppear. t. present pr.b-
lems to him in th. subdivision of his prep-
.rty lnt(ll IGtl.
M~~ting adjourned.
Dongld O. Erlckeen, Acting Secretary
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MINUTES OF SHOREWOOD PLi\NNING COMMISSION
Mlnnewashta 5ch~ol, 7:30 p.m., February 19, 1969
The me$ting was c.lled to order by Dick Bartholow, the Chtir-
man. Also present w~s Grice Madsen.
Agendil Item I:
Upper uk. Minnetonka Yacht Club - represented by Ch..rles
McNama.ra, Dick Leave nwer'th and Owen Nell!UiIm. The Club weuld
like a bpeci~l Us~ Permit fer the purp..~ of non-resident
Sail b$~t deckage ~n pr~perty which the Club has purchased.
The property in que5ti~n is Auditers Subdiviai~n 354, Block
1 - lets 17, 18, 19 ~nd N~rth h~lf ef 21, Bnd Bleck 4 - lets
1, 2, tnd vacated read. It consists of .beut 4 acres 3nd
h~s 900 reet if lake shore - the former Cerrie preperty en
Ench*nted Is18nd.
The members feel that there is adequate parking ~nd that this
~ctivity would net be di$ruptive t. the neighborh.od. The
members .f the Ylcht Club who were present Ilid tb~t Mt present
they were thinking in terms of 15 t. 20 bO!ilts being decked on
this area. They would also pl.n to use the cottage on the
property fer m..tings and storage, and pesslbly later renovate
it. l~ctivity on the greunds would be on SIilturd9Ys ti.nd SundlilYll.!.
They asked for a recommendation frem the Planning Commission.
Respectfully submitted,
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Gr~ce Madsen, S.cret~ry
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Dick'Bartholow, Cnairman.;"
Bob Siegler
Don Erickson
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frank Kef;ley, Villeg.Il,t
aernie Mi\telsteadt,V OgiO.81'
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Six members of the Guenut Pl.anrllng.comml"hioo
HOII_rEi Dahlgren, mi~eSJ...~,~ol"l#ng &~ear~, Inc.
larryl<raem..r;',t.. mcNuf~ytQ!;ltttru~t ion Company?'
Six residMt'$;f~om ~A_sbut,.au.
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ShOH!wood, and discussed such 'co rations ass traf'tic, zoning. 1'9
areas, abutting village zoning,"present nffi~S8, etc'Oi GrlljJ:i"a'o(f't~
members were invited tQ,;~r;j.~~~l!t"". It s.emedtebeth.Dpi~ictrtOf ....
present that this_as atiiftely:'n~importan.t first step Inth. develQ
a comprehensive, plan For our..l~Hjge. Chairman Bartholow plans to au>,>.
joint Village Council - Plann1Qg C.ommission meeting tc;)1:oardinate plann,t....
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SHOREWOOD PLANNING CmU1ISSION
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July 2, 1969
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The last meeting of the Shorewood Planning Commission was held in
the Conference Room at the offices of the Planners in Minneapolis
at 7:45 p.m. - July 2, 1969.
l/[embers Present:
Chairman-Donald Erickson
Secretary - Elsa Wiltsey
Ed Abramson
Bob Siegler
Jack Cooper
Russ Lindquist
others:
Dick Fredlund and Assistant
After polling the members, the second Thursday of each month was
favored by the majority as the best night for the regular monthly
meeting. Due to extra meetings being held during the planning
program this night could also be changed from time to time.
Don Erickson reported that the rqquest of Bud Andrus for a
proposed subdi vislon had been .L'c?fe:n'ed (.. t:i:18 pl::L.111Eir and the
Village Engineer but to date no report had been received.
MEETING
NIGHT
2nd
Thurs.
BUD
ANDRUS
REQUEST
The proposed road plan on the land use plan was studied as to ROAD
relocation and those designated collector routes. The commission PLAN
agreed to the placement of the roads and also agreed that Smithtown
Road (old No.7) should have a larger right of way than Birch
Bluff Road but no recommended width was established for either
until more study is made into traffic counts and feasibility of
widening these routes that are already pretty well built up.
Before such time that a road plan is adopted it will be turned
over to the engineer for his study and recommendations.
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It was generally agreed that if Manor Road were to be improved
it would also need straightening - due to the future development
of the Amesbury property.
Several sites for village centers were discussed and they were
narrowed down to two (2) with an alternate. Attempts should then
be made to obtain this property on a long term basis whenever
available - preferably sites from 5 to 10 acres in size.
Dick Fretllund agreed to contact the school district and attempt to
obtain any commitments they already have on future building sites
and also their long range building program affecting our area.
This plan when adopted aill be forwarded to the school district
for their information and comments.
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'Planned ~ Development' was again explained by Dick whereby
the developer plans his own area - actually zones the area. It
could consist of mixed multiple, single residential, and might
even include some commercial. However final approval is still
the village council's responsibility but the developer would have
the advantage of one large tract of land to work with that has no
prior zoning or lot size minimums.
'Density Development' - strictly residential with smaller lots and
more open space aroulld. it - usually association types of development.
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Planned Qll!i Development and Density Development both give a
broad control within a certain area with decision to be made
at the time of the proposal.by the developer.
The commercial zones at Co. Rd. 19 - Country Club Corner were
discussed as well as that area at No. 7 and 41. Discussion of
commercial and multiple development will continue at the next
meeting set for July 17, 1969 at 7:30 p.m. at the Village
Offices on Manor Road.
Meeting adjourned - 10:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Elsa Wiltsey, Secretary
After the close of the meetir~ Mr. Fredlund conducted a tour of
the offices and facilities for the benefit of the members.
I must say I was very impressed by the extent of space and
facilities.
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ORR-SCHElEN-MAYERON
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CONSULTING ENGINEERS
G. M. ORR, P.E.
J. E. SCHElEN, P.E.
H. MA YERON, P.E.
1104 CURRIE AVENUE, MINNEAPOLIS, MINN.
55403
July 15, 1969
338-4706
Honorable Mayor and Village Co~ncil
Village of Shorewood
P. O. Box 307
Excelsior, Minnesota 55331
Attention: Mrs. Muriel ~~1owell
Village Clerk
Re: Maple Knoll Addition
Preliminary Plot
Gentlemen:
We have reviewed the preliminary plot as submitted by Mr. Bud Andrus
for the referenced addition. We recommend the following revisions
and additions prior to accepting the preliminary plan.
1. The sub-divider shall give a statement to the Village Attorney
indicating that he has the area under ownership or control.
2. Ownership of all adjoining property should be shown on the
preliminary plat.
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All property lines shall have 10' utility easements centered on
the property lines.
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5.
Lots to be consecutively numbered in a clockwise direction.
The ~wner is requested to submit percolation tests for each
of the proposed lots.
6.
We reco~mend that the Owner investigate the possibility of
putting sanitary sewer in the street prior to surfacing the
street and installing a drain field, septic tank system at
the end for future connection to the sanitary sewer system.
7.
The Planner, Dick Freidlund reco~nends requiring a 50' street
easement for the extension of Maple Knoll Lane through the
plat and also a 35' street easement on the north line of the
plat across Lots, 2, 3 and 4.. vie concur lid th this recommenda-
tion. The purpose being to provide access to property west
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Honorable Mayor and Village Council
Attention: Mrs. Muriel Whowell
Village Clerk
Re: Maple Knoll Addition
Preliminary Plot
8. In the event that these two additional street easements are
required, it may become necessary to reduce the size of Lots'
4 and 3 to provide the necessary square footage for Lot 5.
9. The drainage will have to be modified prior to preparing final
plat and plans.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to
call this ,office.
Very truly yours,
ORR-SCHELEN-~ffiYERON
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B. A. Mittelsteadt
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Mr. Donald O. Erickson
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Village of Shorewood
HENNEPIN COUNTY
ROBERT W. McDOUGALL, MAYOR
MURIEL J, WHOWELL, VILLAGE CLERK
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PHONE 474-7501
OFFICE OF: Clerk
July 30, 1969
Dear
The Planning Commission meeting scheduled for August 7, 1969,
has been canceled, due to the fact that Council of the
Village of Shorewood has requested that Planning Commission
members meet with Council at a joint meeting on Monday,
August 11, 1969, at 8.30 p.m. at Minnewashta School Library.
I would appreciate it if you would call the undersigned
before August 8, 1969, indicating whether you will be able
to attend this meeting.
Yours sincerely,
Muriel J. Whowell
Clerk
Village of Shorewood
Copies mailed to:
Mayor McDouglH
Planner
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SROREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Meeting
Nov. 19. 1969
Minutes
The last meeting of the Shorewood Village Plannlng Commission was
held on November 19. 1969 at 7:45 p.m. at the Shorewood,Vlllage
offices. Members present were Chairman Don Erickson. au'ssell
Lindquist._ Ed Abramson. Robert Siegler:, Elsa Wiltsey and the new
members Rebert Naegele.,. Jr. and Marvin Boote. Others present
were D. Clifton and Bernie Middlesteadt. Village Engineer.
Doug Clifton waa,!:,p'IHWII"n.t 1n behalf of Carruthers" requesting eom
cO_ission action for a special use permit to constrUct one ,
double bungalow on each ot two lots - Lots 7 and 8 of Block 1"
Clifton Acres. Dick Fredlund was unable to attend but bad
conveyed his tee11~ through Don Erickson on the matter ·
"in good planning 1t is not wise to permit indiscrimlnate
placing of double bungalows in predominantly slngle resldent1al
areas. ),
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B~!OW
CLIFTON
ACRES
It was the opinion of BllssL1ndqu1st t~nC). aeUOlS -~ >~:..'
taken until a pollq is set on the grant1nS ord.n!:a~>ettilac_;::._
~rml.tasl_ce~no.<.pcJl!CT bas been followed in the' past for.
refusal or permiss10n. The Commiss10n agreed that a po11cy
to the contrary would be better than no pollcy at all.
After dlscussing the matter with Mr. Clifton he was agreeable
to wait for an answer until some policy could be set as he agreed
that from a planning standpoint. the importance ot how future
re({uests for multiples are handled would be quite important to
h1Jl too - asa Village resident.
Since 1t seemea *atl.factQI7 to Mr. Clifton.. Ed Abral'1amson.JlQY.d
to deter any action on any consideratlQn on multiple dwellings
.ntilthe land use plan is pretty much established in ShorewQod~
seconded. by .Russ Lindquist and carrled by a unanimous Tote of the
ceDission.
Bernie Mittlesteadt.. v1llage engineer, brought the comm.issien up SEWER
~o date on the progress of the sanitary sewer system proposed tor PLANS
Shorewood ... by means of a map showing the main trunk or interceptor
li)1e as well as the laterals. He qUQted approximate costs tQ tile APPROVED
in4iY1dual prQperties~ d1fferent methods of computing these costs.
as well as o",era:J.,l costs,. expla1ning that in appl.ying fpr a fearal
grant thrQuSh ;mID, the planning commission is required to approTe
the preliminary plans dated Oc't. 27. 1969 along with the Council'S
approval.
It this application!. approved by mm for funds ShQrelfOod can expect
to receive about one -..nd one...ha1.t million towards a 5 million dollar
project for laterals and if the trunk line is designated an inter-
ceptor a grant ot'One th1rd (1/3) Q:f the CQst can be expected.
_. Robert Seigler mbved that the preliminary plans dated Oct. 27:, 1969
.. tot" the laterals and . the interceptor lines be approved. .... Seconded
by Ed Abramson and carried by a .nanimous vote of the commiss10n.
Plannlng C0D11ssion .. pag.2
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Before there was any further dlscussion on ,the land lilse plan.
e Russ Lindquist asked to have it be mown as a' matter of record.
that there is a possibility of conflict of interest ..that he could
have a definite interest in a large piece of land in Shorewood that
is now included In the plannedunlt de~elopment south of Vine Bill
and r:~-} of Christmas Lake. ;,>, ,
Receipt of letters from Wallace Dayton and Richard Thomsen regarding
the importance of "good" planning ,now and.eJtpressing their feelings
and opInions regarding same were acknow~edgedand discussed.
COlUllem.ts and suggestlons made by the Shorewood Vl1lage Council
relative to the proposed Land Use Mapi~ ~ letter frell Mayor
McDougall dated October 29. 1969 were tben studied as they app1ied
to the areas desIgnated. "
After fInal analysis of the comments In this letter it was the
feeling of the., commission that they 1fereim. general agreement
with all of the suggestions. Don Erick.son agreed todlsuss the
details w1th Mayor Me.Dougall personally.
Meeting adjourned '12:15 cLJIt. until December 10 or 11 ....ith notice
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A meeting of the Shorewood Planning Commission will be held Friday, November
14th, at 7:30 p.m. at the Shorewood Village Office on Manor Road. There are
several important matters to consider, so you should be there. Phone Don
Erickson if you cannot attend (Home 474-9063 and office 926-1651).
Agenda
Land Use Map
We are to review the council's comments on the Land Use Map. Copies of these
comments and map are enclosed. Be prepared to express your opinion.
Shorewood Public Sewer
Bernie Mittelsteadt will be there to explain the plan to us so that we can give
it our approval, which is required in order to apply for Federal Funds.
Double Bunqalows
Two separate requests have been received for double bungalow approval. The first
is from Carrouthers for Lots 2 and 3, Block 1, Shorewood Acres, 1st Addition.
These lots face Valley Wood Lane. The second request is from Clifton for Lots 7
and 8, Clifton Acres. These two lots each have 100 ~ frontage on Grant Lorenz
Road and are the southernmost lots in Clifton Acres which was originally plotted
from Lot 83 along Grant Lorenz Road. Both of these requests can be located by
referring to Page 15, on your Half Section Maps. Be sure to look at these sites
cefore our meeting so that we can make a decision.
Don Erickson
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To:
Shorewood Planning Commission members
Ed Abramson
marvin Boote
Russ Lindquist
Bob Naagle, Jr.
Bob Siegler
Elsa Wiltsey ~
Next meetinq, Wednesday, December 10, 1969
As Our next regularly scheduled meeting date conflicts with the Seminar of
municipal Planning, our next meeting will be moved to Wednesday, December
10, 1969, at the Village Hall, 7:30 p.m. Please confirm by phone to Don
Erickson before December 3 (Home 474-9063, Office 926-1651). Call right now
so you won't forget. We'd like to start finalizing the Land Use Plan.
Planninq Seminar
The two last seminar meetings, "The Process of municipal Planning", are to
be held December 11 and 18, from B:OD to 10:00 p.m., at the St. Louis Park
City Hall, 5005 Minnetonka Boulevard, St. Louis Park, minnesota. This is
a change from the originally scheduled dates. You'll find these meetings
helpful. Try to get to them.
minutes
Elsa will mail the minutes of our last meeting to you soon.
Lindquist Letters
Enclosed are copies of Russ's letters.
Reader's Diqest Article
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Be sure to get the November 1969 issue and read the article, "The Suburbs
;f;:9in9".
Donald O. Erickson
Chairman
Copies to: Richard Fredlund, Planner
Robert mcDougall, mayor
murial Whowell, Clerk-Treasurer
Jack Cooper, mayor-elect
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HENNEPIN COUNTY
ROBI!RT w. McDOUGAL!-, MAYOR
MURII!L J. WHOWELL, VII_LAGI! CLI!RK
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October 29, 1969
Mr. Donald Erickson
Rt.7 Box 10
Excelsior, Minnesota 55331
Dear Don:
This 16 a summary of the comments made during our Council meeting on October
13, 1969, relative to the proposed Land Use Map. To simplify relating in
letter form what was discussed with a map before us at our meeting, I have
numbered in red certain areas on th~ enclosed map, and will make comments on
each a.rea in the summary which follows:
Area #1
The general concensus seemed to be that this should be left primarily
residential. Even though it abuts Highway #7, there is no natural barrier
separating it from the dwellings in the rear. The concept of "Planned
Unit Development" may be the beet means of preservlnc; .+ f'OT such use on a
quality basis. We cannot forget that allowable uses other than single family
within a residenti21 may act as the highw~ buffer.
Area 112
This is the property in the south side of Smithtown Road bordering on the
Country Club Golf Course,(Randall, etc.). The thought occurred that
scheduling this for single and/or two-family dwellings may be a means of
upgrading the erea.
AreD. #3
This is the property abutting HNY #19 across from NSP.
those above relative to area #2 were made.
The same comments l'iS
Area #4
Leave this as single family in that it is already developed as such (Country
Club Terrace).
Area #5
Here we wondered if it would be possible to create a term such as "Highway
Development" ?nd csk our 2ttorney to spell out specific allowable uses. It
would appear the.t tLere mi'Y be some uses which would be better than either
single family or rr.ultiple (J\.;ell1.ng. Further, the present Lutheran Church
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would then be removed from residential zoning, which could be a good preoedeDCM
for the future in other areas. These comments relate to both the north and
south sides of Highway #7 in this area.
Area #6
This is the property on the point at Water Street next to the new Lambill
rlpartments. It was suggested that this be zoned ''lmtltiple" but that we inject
other allowable uses in this particular multiple area 8UOl?- aa "re.'iaurantA
or other uses of a "service to the area" _ture.
Aree #7
'>4 .re..."..,"'! the .,:;<I..n.i'~;~ .;buroh. Due to the aOC4a. pro-b18llla,
it would not appear to be a good oOl1'll18l'cial area, Thircl Avenue is' already
over-burdened with traffic, and for this reaeon.-.ultiple" may not be proper.
-herefor€, we wonder if "2 fe.mlly" residential is feasible?
}re2hB
This 18 the i:irshey property. It is our suggestion that it be left in a non-
conforming use basis at ler>st until we know what ~ffect the future up-grading
of H1ghway f1 at thls point will have on the property.
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Are<; #9
.It may be that this should be left "multiple" as on the present map. The only .
access to the property is on tne back road which carries residential t~affic.
Area #10
Leave as "Pl Clnned Unit" development as deseri bed B.t our meet i ng.
Arwa #11
It was felt that'~tiple" may not be the best use for this property. This
would create a gre~ter traffic load thanoomm~rcial. If we can encournge the
"trade" of cemet~ry property C's discussed, this would creF,te the buffer in the
area which would remove ar~ ill effect on residential areas. Further, it may
be easier to centrd and limit the expansion of commercial in this area than
multiple. Our attorney hrs been encouraged to fol1ow up in the feasibility of
the "trade". This service roa.d will be up-graded by the State.
Are2 n 2
This is considered our prime potential residential area and should be developed
as such. It w,~s sug[,"ested by our planner and realtor, Dick Thomson, that
"Planned Ur., t Development" ma;)' ce the best vehicle to use to achieve top quality-.
Goner', Comment" s
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1. \,.p d18cussed t ;,~ de" ~j :101l i ty of corning up with a term other than "Planned
uni + .Jevelopmcnt" to :.'cLcribe the intent of this use.
2. 'I'r'ere w;:s consider"ble rhGcussion 2.S to whether it would be wise to show
the \cxtensio of FiGhwry P1 S on our land use mi1p et 211.
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3. It wC's generally felt thnt the "Greenway" eoncept for parks was interee'tUtC
but rather impractical to implement. In many instances it oould disrupt'
privacy. However, it may be possible to use this idea in ee~tain areas.
4. When our land use map is completed, we urge that steps be taken to request
federal and/or State funds for the purpose of acquiring land to "pre8erve
open space".
5. There WDS some question concerning sehool zoning. If we are to show school.
on the map at all, it was fp.lt that the plan sh~ld ooincide with the school
district plan.
6. Mr. Cronin, who was absent, expressed his feeling that the Village should
7. lr~:::::9 i~al ~ ~ o~~ ~s;~~el,!O~lot~ -;;~ ~ ..~ ~" ( .l /_.I.f "....k ~",.
T . ~ ,"~.: .., ,< "ll!, 'L LUlu Planning COmm~8S1.0n consider
tJ,e:.-e remcrKs, Dnd then bring the map back with the hope that we will all consider
it to be in such a form that we could post notice for a hearing.
Tknk you, and if you wish to get together at any time, please give me a call.
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I(ayor
Vi ll<.ge of Shorewood
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TWENTY-FOUR HUNDRED
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FIRST NATIONAL SANK SUILDiNG
MINNEAPOLIS
November 12, 1969
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Mr. Donald t~. Erickson
2-&9-~~ay-z-a-t-a-Be-u~
111i,nne.apo;L-i-s, Minnesota
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Dear Don:
This letter is written after an extended telephone
conversation with you concerning the role of the Planning
Commission in' the affairs of the Village and my role as an
individual member of the Planning Commission.
Concerning the role of the Planning Commission in
the affairs of the Village, I believe the Planning Commission
should (i) study, and advise the Council concerning, the land
development needs of the Village and the methods best suited
to attend these needs, (ii) recommend to the Council ways to
implement the methods (whether by the adoption of ordinances,
policies or otherwise) and (iii) subject to Council affirmation,
administer the ordinances and policies adopted by the Council.
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If the Planning Commission is to fulfill its role
in the best possible fashion, it must proceed in each instance
as if everything it will recommend to the Council will be
adopted. Only by proceeding in this fashion will the members
of the Planning Commission tr~ly understand and feel their
responsibility without wh~ch the quality of their efforts will
be diminished. By the same token, the Council must, in
accepting or rejecting recommendations of the Planning Commission,
keep in mind how important it is that the members of the Planning
Commission understand and feel their responsibility. Unless the
Planning 'Commission proceeds in this fashion and unless the
Council encourages this procedure, I am convinced that, at best,
the Planning Commission will serve only a limited affirmative
purpose, and, at worst, will serve a negative purpose.
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TWENTY-FOUR HUNDRED
FIRST NATIONAL SANK SUILDING
MINNEAPOLIS
0,
Mr. Donald y:r: Erickson
P age Two
November 12, 1969
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The Planning Commission has, to some degree, been
performing its role in the study and in the recommendation
which it has heretofore made in connection with the rezoning
study; presumably this will continue. In the meantime,
however, daily problems are arising which need immediate"
answers. The daily problem that triggered our telephone
conversation arises out of two requests for permits to con-
struct two family houses in areas heretofore developed
primarily with single family houses~ To treat this problem
in an ad hoc fashion will, in my judgment, be a mistake.
Except by chance, ad hoc decisions will not result in sound
long-term planning. In fact, except by chance, ad hoc
decisions will result in poor long-term planning. Before
intelligent answers to these requests can be formulated
a study must be made -- not just how will the answer to these
two requests affect the areas immediately involved, but rather
how will the answers to these two requests affect the areas
immediately involved and, more importantly, how will the answers
affect future requests of a similar nature involving other areas.
In other words, the Planning Commission must study the long range
consequences of its answers. It must review the problem as if
its ultimate recommendation will be adopted by the Council.
The Council must treat the recommendation in this same light.
To the best of my kriowledge, the Council has never
adopted a general policy to aid the Planning Commission in
formulating its answers to the above mentioned requests. If
such a policy has been adopted, the Planning Commission should
be aware of it; if such a policy has not been adopted, the
Planning'Commission should recommend to the Council a
policy for adoption and should concurrently therewith formu-
late its answers based upon the recommended policy. After
the policy has been adopted by the Council, all future
questions of a like nature should be considered in the light
of the adopted policy. I wish to make it clea~ in my opinion,
once the policy has been adopted by the Council it should
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TWENTY-FOUR HUNDRED
FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING
MINNEAPOLIS
O.
Mr. Donald M. Erickson
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November 12, 1969
remain the policy of the Village influencing all future
questions of a like nature regardless of the makeup of the
Council and/or the Planning Commission until good reason
dictates a change in the policy. Without proceeding in
accordance with the foregoing, no one knows from day to
day what answers will be forthcoming on any question.
The man who owns undeveloped land and the man who owns
developed land are entitled to a better shake in Shorewood
than such lack of planning will afford.
Concerning my role as an individual member of the
Planning Commission, I should be expected to act in a manner
which will permit the Planning Commission to proceed in the
fashion which I have outlined above. By the same token, I
should be entitled to believe that all members of the Planning
Commission will proceed in a like fashion and that the Council,
by the means outlined above, will encourage such procedure.
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This letter is intended to outline my understanding
of the respective roles to be played by the Planning Commission,
the Council and the individual members of the Planning Commission.
If I am wrong, whether in degree or otherwise, in what I have
stated, I would like to be corrected. I did not favor the special
meeting proposed for November 5th when I learned that a bare
quorum of the Planning Commission could be present after only
48 hours notice on a question \hat I felt involved a policy
decision -- not just an application thereof. The procedures
which I advocate above cannot possibly be accomplished under
such conditions.
Very truly yours, '~ l " f
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RJ;sell W. Lindquist
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cc: Mr.' Carlton Cronin
Mrs. Muriel Whowell
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TWENTY-FOUR HUNDRED
FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING
MINNEAPOLIS
November 14, 1969
Mr. Donald Erickson
7009 France Avenue South
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Dear Don:
I have reviewed the copy of the letter dated October 29,
1969 from Robert W. McDougall to you. In co~~enting, I will use
the same references as were used by Mr. McDougall.
Area if 1
I have no strong feelings though I am not sure the situation is too
different from the case of Area #12. I don't necessarily feel that
planned unit development in a relatively large area is injurious to
single family developments adjoining. If I were to have a different
philosophy, I would feel less certain about the Planning Commission's
previous recommendations concerning Area #12.
Area if2
No objections.
Area if 3
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No objections.
Area it4
No objectiona.
Area it5
Subject to what the specific allowable uses will be, I have no
objections.
Area if6
This might be a good suggestion.
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TWENTY-FOUR HUND~~~D
FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING
MINNEAPOLIS
Mr. Donald Erickson
Page Two
November 14, 1969
Area if7
I have no objections but Christmas Lake should be protected against
use by property owners not on the Lake. These two points, however,
are not tied together; they are entirely separate.
Area if8
We have no other alternative but to recognize the existing use of
the Eirshey property for at least some period of time. To leave
it, however, zoned other than for single family purposes would
be highly objectionable. It should be considered at this time
and should be zoned solely for single family purposes. The
existing motel would, as stated above, continue as a non-conforming
use for at least some period of time. .
Area ff9
If we are to have a two family residential classification, I think
this area might well be included in such a zoning. I would prefer
that to multiple.
Area fflO
I agree, but isn't this inconsistent with the Council's thinking
concerning Area ffl?
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Area ifll
This should not be a trade area beyond the current limits. Like
Area ff9, if a two family residential classification is to be created,
Area ffll might be appropriately zoned in that manner. Any concentra-'
tion of traffic in this area will be, in my opinion, ill advised.
Area ff12
I have commented on this regarding Area ffl.
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TWENTY-FOUR HUNDR;;;:w
FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING
MINNEAPOLIS
Mr. Donald Erickson
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November 14, 1969
appreciate the difficulties that you have in getting members to
attend regularly. However, like you, many of us plan our evenings
well in advance. If we could plan our week~ keeping in mind
regularly stated meetings, the situation such as I find myself
in tonight should and could be reduced to a minimum.
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As suggested, I regret making a written report. Many
of the thoughts which I have expressed might be changed if I
were to have the opportunity of listening to the other members
of the Planning Commission.
I will be at my home tonight where
by telephone if there is any purpose served.
I can be reached
Best regards.
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Very truly yours, //) t' II
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Russell W. Lindquist
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cc: Mrs. Muriel J. Whowell
Mr. Carlton Cronin
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SHOBEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Minutes
Dec. 10.., 1969
The last meeting of the Shorewood V1llage Planning Commission
was held on Dec. 10, 1969 at 7:45 p.m. at the V1llageoffices.
Members present were Cha~taan Don Erickson, Ed Abramson. Russell ROLL
Lindqu1st.< Robert Naegele... Robert S1egler and Elsa Wiltsey. CALL
Marvin Boote was absent. Others present ~ D1ck Fredlund. Planner.
The m1nutes of the last meeting were approved as corrected.
(change 12 :15 p.m to a.m. and in l1ne 6. paragraph 1. page 2
change west to east)
As agreed upon by the comm1ss1on major1ty. the next aeeting
was scheduled for Thursday, January 8. 1970 at 7:)0 p.m. at
the village oftices.
Considerable discussion was held concerning who should cha1r P~C
and conduct the pub11c hear1ng on the pre11minary land use plan. ",-RING
It was the op1nion ot the Cha1rman, Don Er1ckson.. and he so BY
reco_ended ... that the Mayor and V1llage Counc1l should held HAIOR
the hear1ng 1nasmuch as the tinal decis10n must be made by the COWCIL
counc1l. The ," ced1ssien intonuallyasreed w1th hl. +ecOJIIlem4ation.
After further study of the preliminary land use plan. dated 12/10/69
1 t waslloved by Ed Abramson to approv.~.i.the proposed PJ'elillinary
land use plan. sUb~ect,' to .Qualitl. control t..'\)e."preparect.." ,the
land planner and sUbaltted to tne plannlnc c...1s.ion aga1n for
final approval. Seconded by Russ Lindqul.t and carried. by a
unaniaous'vote of the commiss10n.
There being no further 'bus1ness. theaeeting was adjourned at
10 p.m.
Subm1tted 'by:
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Elsa W11tsey.GSeeretary
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December 31, 1969
To: Shorewood Planning Commission Members
,;(J.ryv t~4-r>'(
Ed Abramson
Marvin Boote
. RUlas LinelEjldist
Bob Naegele, Jr.
Bob Siegler
Elsa Wiltsey
Next Meetinq, Thursday, January B, 1970
A regular meeting of the Shorewood Planning Commission will be held as shown
above at the Village Hall at 7:30 p.m. Phone Don Erickso~ before January 4th
to confirm your attendance (Home 474-9063 or Office 926-1651).
Aqenda
Application Form
We will discuss and prepare a standard written form to be used by an applicant
for a Special Use Permit, Rezoning or Special Waiver of Building Regulations.
Zoning Regulations
Dick Fredlund will attend to help us start this next important phase of Village
planning.
Donald O. Erickson
Chairman
Copies to:
Jack Cooper, Mayor
Muriel Whoillell, Clerk-Treasurer
Richard Fredlund, Planner
Bernie Mittelsteadt, Engineer