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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY. 3 JANUARY 1989
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Watten called the meeting to order at 7:33 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Presen t :
Chair Watten; Commissioners Benson. Schultz. Spellman a~d
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning AsSiSl.
Commissioners Leslie and Mason (excused).
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Helgesen.
Absent:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Spellman moved. seconded by Robertson to approve the minutes of 6 D~cember 1988 as
written. Motion carried unanimously.
7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE
Bob Morgan - 4285 Enchanted Lane
Planner Nielsen reviewed his report explaining that Mr. Morgan is s
setback variance from the 50 foot 1akeshore setback as well as the
setback. He would like to expand his deck by extending it 15 feet
I setback and 4 feet into the 10 foot side yard areas. In addition h
a boulder wall containing two pools and a waterfall extending an ad
the 50 foot lakeshore setback. Planner Nielsen noted that the topo
of the proposed deck is such that it is not considered useful yard
to maintain. The hill at that location would cause the proposed de
from the lake. He said that the reason the house is even located i
was to comply with the City's setback requirements at the time of c
eking approval for a
o foot side yard
nto the 50 foot
wishes to construct
itiona1 15 feet into
raphy in the location
pace and is difficult
k to be non-visible
that area of the lot
nstruction.
Planner Nielsen said he recommends approval of the deck. due to exi1ting topography.
although the pools are strictly aesthetic and therefore not justifiid.
Public portion of the public hearing was opened at 7:40 P.M. ~'
Mr. Morgan said he has already obtained approval from the DNR and t e Watershed District
for his proposal. He said the boulder wall will serve as erosion c ntrol and the pools
are planned for added aesthetics. I
Dale Pixler. 4325 Enchanted Lane. said that in 1976 he divided the ~ots which are
Morgan's. Yanik's and his own property today. He said that at the ime of the
subdivision there was discussion of anticipated variances. and vari nces were granted for
lot dimensions.
Chester Yanik. 4245 Enchanted Lane. said that it is sad that the ho se had to be pushed
into the hillside (to meet the buildable area). He said he support the Morgan's request
since is will enhance the area.
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ISChultz asked if there were previous variances granted. Planner Ni+lsen said that the
Council minutes from 1976 show that three lots were granted. however. with no mention of
variances. He said that today variances are not considered without I specific building
plans. It is clear that variances were granted for the lot sizes. ~nd it seems
reasonable to believe that variances would have been anticipated fot the building
se tbacks.
Planner Nielsen said the pools require a variance because they are $ man-made structure
and impervious surface. Mr. Morgan replied that the man-made portifn would be
underground (the pool/waterfall system). and the design was made to accommodate the
topography.
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Mr. Pixler said that the deck including the walkway which would enct' oach into the
sideyard setback would not affect his view at all. and his would be the only view
affected. ,
Spellman moved. seconded by Benson. to recommend to the Council that a 15 foot variance
to the lakeshore setback be granted as per the Planner's recommenda~ions and that the 50
foot front yard setback be maintained. (Side yard setback variancetand variance to allow
pools are not included in recommendation for approval.) Basis for he variance being
topography and the situation of the house on the lot. Motion carr~ d by roll call vote -
4 ayes - 1 nay (Watten).
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7 :45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - FENCE HEIGHT VARIANCE
Lundgren Bros. Const. - 26000 Shorewood Oaks Dr. and 26045 Oak Leaf Tr.
Mr. Mike Pflaum of Lundgren Bros. Const. was present to request a v
height restriction for two lots within the Shorewood Oaks Deve10pme
to the State Highway 7 right-of-way. He proposes to construct a si
lot line which directly abuts the right-of-way affecting the two lo
the development.
riance to the fence
t which are adjacent
-foot fence along the
s at the entrance to
Planner Nielsen recommends approval of the variance subject to the
landscaping along the fence to break up its massiveness.
pp1icant providing
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:09 P.M.
Mr. Pflaum said the purpose of the fence is to buffer the highway n ise. activity and
headlights from the lots and entire development.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:11 P.M.
Benson moved. seconded by Spellman to recommend to Council that the variance be approved
subject to required landscaping. Variance being justified due to the proximity of the
property to a State Highway. I
Watten said he would prefer to see land dedicated as a buffer rathe~ than a fence.
till Schultz said he didn't see the traffic situation as being all that hnique.
Motion carried by roll call vote - 3 ayes - 2 nays (Watten and SChu~tZ).
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IIItRECONSIDERATION - SETBACK VARIANCE
Chester Yanik - 4245 Enchanted Lane
Planner Nielsen reviewed the previous action taken by the Commissio~ and explained that
the Council felt additional information was presented to them since I' the public hearing on
6 December 1988 which should be reviewed by the Planning Commission Therefore. this
matter is before the Planning Commission for reconsideration.
Mr. Yanik said that he wanted to show that a hardship existed with the property and cited
four variances apparently being granted in 1976 to develop the prop rty he now owns -
minimum lot size; front yard setback; lakeshore setback; garage set ack. He said that
Robert Rascop and Jan Haugen recalled that variances were granted.
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He said that in May of 1981 a variance was granted for a 20' x 24' ~eck. He said he had
obtained a permit for a screen porch and it was built in an area wh~ch did not require a
variance. He said this permit was separate from the deck permit. I
He has obtained an updated survey of his property which he said he
He presented an illustration showing the conditions which existed
relative to the location of decks.
fccepts
if 1976.
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1981 and 1988
Schultz pointed out that the deck constructed in 1981 under a 35 fopt setback variance
I approval encroached beyond that approved setback. Mr. Yanik said h~ did not deny that
but the deck was built in accordance with an incorrect survey (site plan - Exhibit E).
Spellman asked if Mr. Yanik was in dispute with his current certifi ate of survey and Mr.
Yanik said he accepts the current survey which shows consistency wi h that of his
neighbor's survey.
Schultz and Benson noted that the permit application received in No ember of 1988 was for
"reconstruction of a deck and screen porch" (Exhibit 7). as request d by Mr. Yanik's
contractor. Mr. Yanik referred to a worksheet (Exhibit 8) prepared for fee calculation
purposes as showing that the gazebo was considered in determining t e construction value
on which the fees are based.
Mr. Yanik asked why he was given a permit to build a deck and gazeb. Planner Nielsen
replied that upon site inspection is was discussed that a variance ould be required for
the gazebo and portions of the deck. He said the permit fee was ba ed upon a deck and
gazebo in error. The purpose of requiring plans for the gazebo alo g with the deck was
to ensure that the footings would be large enough to support same i the event a variance
were approved which would allow the gazebo.
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Spellmen moved. seconded by Robertson. to recommend the original mOtion made by the
Planning Commission on 6 December 1988 to the Council - that a setb ck variance be
approved in accordance with the Planner's recommendations as set fo th in his report
dated 3 November 1988 for a ground-level deck terminating at the 35 foot setback line
that the gazebo not be allowed within the 50 foot lakeshore setback.
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IItschu1tz asked what the previous setback variance area (of 1981) was Attachment 3 of the
28 December 1988 staff report was referenced to show that in 1981 a permit was issued for
an "on-grade construction of a 20' x 24' wood deck". Also known as "Area A" on Exhibit B
- the property survey.
Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote - 5 ayes.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 9 January 1989.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None.
REPORTS
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Council Liaison Stover said that the Joint Study Session to be sche~u1ed on January 17
should include discussion of communication. and variance hardShiPS.! Further study
sessions held by the Planning Commission should include topics that have come up in the
past such as R-C district conditional uses and their definitions. f nce ordinance. etc.
The Comprehensive Plan is also due for study.
ADJOURNMENT
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Motion carried
I Spellman moved. seconded by Benson to adjourn the meeting at 9:23
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted.
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 17 JANUARY 1989
tilt JOINT STUDY SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL
M I NUT E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:34 P.M.
ROLL CALL
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Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Robertson, Spellman, Benso~, Leslie; Mayor
Haugen; Councilmembers Brancel, Stover, Watten, Gagne; tlanner Nielsen;
Planning Assist. Helgesen i
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Absent: Commissioner Mason (excused). i
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Spellman moved, seconded by Robertson to approve the minutes of 3 J~nuary 1989 as
written. Motion carried unanimously.
1989 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM
Bob Gagne said he feels there is a need for senior housing in Shorefood. Members present
'agreed and considered contacting a developer to represent an apPliCltion for same.
Haugen suggested that the City contact potential neighbors to such use and educate them
before contacting developers. Various sites were considered and it was noted that any
site would need to be close to shopping, banks and medical faciliti s. The City could
consider bonding or tax increment financing, etc. as means of encou aging developers.
Jan Haugen said that during her campaign she discovered that it appt' ars residents would
like to see the City take neighborhood surveys to determine what th people would like to
see fill the vacant land around them.
Watten said the Comprehensive Plan should be modified to show the sttes appropriate for
various land uses, such as senior housing and rezoned where approprfate.
Items needing study by the Planning Commission were prioritized as follows:
1) Subdivision Ordinance.
2) Needs Analysis for Public Works Department.
3) Rental Housing Ordinance.
4) Senior Housing.
5) By-laws for Planning Commission.
The Zoning Ordinance is an on-going study, and the Comprehensive Plfn will be ready for
study by mid-year. Schultz said that the Planning Commission shoul meet twice a month
indefinitely until all study items are resolved.
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'Members present briefly discussed how a rental housing ordinance shpuld be approached.
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tlltVARIANCE POLICY DISCUSSION
Discussion on variances was brought
thinking of the Planning Commission
up to help alleviate discrepanc~,.es between the
and Council.
Planner Nielsen explained that some of the reasons for building setfaCkS were for safety
purposes such as distance from buildings to streets. and building t building; open
space; and to preserve vegetation and accommodate drainage. Planne Nielsen presented
slides showing examples of where buildings and outdoor storage were located right next to
the street. !
Nielsen reported that the Zoning Ordinance is a law. not merely a gride1ine. Standards
must be set in a reasonable manner which apply to everybody. I
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Nielsen referenced the memo by the City Attorney dated 11/3/87 defiping undue hardship.
Nielsen cited some examples of variances granted where reasonable u~e of the property
could have been made without the variance. These were cases where ~he Planning
Commission voted to recommend denial of the variance. and the Counc~l approved.
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Haugen said that staff and the Planning Commission do not tell the ~ouncil what to do.
they are there to advise. Schultz reminded the Council that the Zoring Ordinance is a
law which applies to them as well as the Planning Commission. i
'Members present discussed that there are various ways of interpretir., g reasonable use.
The Council agreed to refer back questionable variance requests. i
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It was further noted that the City Attorney had advised that voting on variances should
always be done for the original request. A modified version of the request as a result
of recommendations. etc. should be voted on separately.
INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMUNICATION
Haugen urged the Planning Commission to inform the Council of any c~ncerns they have.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Schultz said he thinks the City should determine how the increased ?eve1opment has
affected revenues and what the City is doing with that revenue. I
REPORTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Leslie moved. seconded by Spellman to adjourn the meeting at 10:20
unanaimously.
M. Motion carried
'Respectfully submitted.
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
I TUESDAY. 7 FEBRUARY 1989
POUNCIL CHAMBERS
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:38 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Leslie. Robertson. Spellma ; Planner Nielsen;
Planning Assistant Helgesen.
Absen t :
Commissioners Mason (excused). Benson; Council Liaison
ptover.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Spellman said he wished to protest the "censure of criticism of the: City
Planning Commission members" at the Joint Study Session of 17 JanuaJ:'y in
Variance Policy Discussion. He suggested that those minutes be apPfoved
"abbreviated" .
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Leslie moved. seconded by Spellman to approved the "abbreviated" mi~utes of 17 January.
1989. Motion carried unanimously. I
, 7 :30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE
Clifford Anderson - 5351 Shady Hills uircle
Planner Nielsen reviewed his report. Mr. Anderson would like to bU1ld a single-family
home on this lot and requests a 15 foot variance to the front yard etback due to severe
topography in the buildable area. Additional justificationS of the variance include the
limited depth (96 feet) of the lot; the driveway grade would not be considered safe if
the house is moved more into the buildable area; gravity sewer serv ce is not deep enough
to accommodate the house in the buildable area; attempting to buildlwithout a variance
would result in extensive site alteration. and likely drainage and rrosion problems.
Mr. Anderson has moved the structure back 5 feet from his original rroposal to minimize
the variance to the front yard setback as much as possible. as welltas providing for a 20
foot driveway. This adjustment locates the proposed structure at t e rear setback.
leaving no space for a deck at the rear of the house. Planner Niel en has suggested that
the Commission consider granting a rear yard variance of no more thin 12 feet for the
construction of a deck. if the applicant so requests. i
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Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:43 P.M.
Pat Malmsten. 5350 Shady Hills Circle. said all homes are at the nOfmal setback. To
develop a house like this is a great mistake. He said he does not ~ant to look at a
house only 20 feet from the road.
'Planning Nielsen noted that the time
(50 foot setback) zoning district.
setback) .
of development. the
In 1985 the area was
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rezoned to R-1C (35 foot front
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ILes Anderson, 5385 Shady Hills Circle, said there is poor ViSibi1itf driving on the
street. and a short driveway will cause cars to be parked on the st eet. This will also
set a precedent for buildings on the adjacent vacant lots.
Brian Dedolf. 5320 Shady Hills Circle. said he enjoys the private c~aracter of the
neighborhood and doesn't want to see that change. I
Scott Sandell. 5345 Shady Hills Circle. said he concurs with Brian.l He asked the
builder. Scott Duffney. if the house could be built without the varoance. Duffney said
no. the house would not fit anywhere else on the lot.
Planner Nielsen pointed out that the driveway would actually be app oximately 30 feet
long to the paved portion of the road. considering the portion of bpulevard included in
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A letter of objection to the proposal was also submitted by Jody an~ Chuck Lodge of 5370
Shady Hills Circle.
Les Anderson said a previous variance request for this property was denied.
Public portion of the public hearing was closed at 8:04 P.M.
Schultz said this lot has existed for 27 years. and unfortunately it needs a variance to
'be built upon. An alternative would be for the community to buy th~ lot itself. The
City can't deny the owner to make reasonable use of the property. ~, variance is not
bending the rules. but applying the rules. I
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Spellman said the builder should design a house to suit the lot. no~ reshape the lot to
fit a particular house design.
Scott Duffney said this design is a safe one. and practical.
Planner Nielsen said a lot of fill and site alteration would be nee~' ed to accommodate any
house within the buildable area and many trees would likely be lost in the process. Also
the driveway is safer when it is level and short than the alternati e which would be
longer. but too steep. I
Spellman said the builder should design the house to fit the lot.
Cliff Anderson said he would appreciate it if the Planning Cammissipn would make a site
visit to this lot.
Spellman moved. seconded by Robertson to recommend
'be denied. Motion was split by roll call vote - 2
(Leslie. Schultz).
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 13
Schultz reviewed the hardship criteria of the Zoning Ordinance.
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It was noted that the adjacent Lot 10 is similar or worse in topogr~phY than this one.
Lots 5. 6 and 7 should be buildable as is. I
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tlt7.45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY
Ann Stover - 25270 Smithtown Road
PLAT
The Planner's report explains that the proposal is for a proposed plat to divide
apprxoximately 82.016 square feet of property into three single-fam}1y residential lots
located in the R-1C zoning district. An existing home and garage wtll remain on the lot
fronting Smithtown Road. The two northerly lots will front on a cul-de-sac proposed to
be e:tended from Harding Lane. The plat meets or exceeds the Zonin~ and Subdivision
requ1rements. I
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:21 P.M.
Richard Conry was present to represent the request.
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Ann Stover (owner of the property) commented that Lot 2 seemed
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:25 P.M.
Spellman moved. seconded by Leslie to recommend to Council approval I of the preliminary
plat subject to the Planner's recommendations: i
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The applicant must submit an up-to-date (within 30 days) title fPinion at the time
she submits a final plat.
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Park dedication fees must be paid prior to release of the final I plat.
$1000 ($500 per lot with credit given for the existing dwelling~.
The applicant must advise the City Clerk as to how sewer equali*ation
spread against the lots. I
The fees total
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charges will be
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A complete final plat. including construction plans and specifi9ations. must be
submitted within six months of the Council's approval of the prtliminary plat.
The staff should be directed to prepare a simple development agteement to cover the
construction of the proposed improvements. I
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6. The preliminary plat approval is contingent upon satisfactory
utility plans by the City Engineer.
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Motion carried unanimously.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 13 February 1989.
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Planner Nielsen informed the Planning Commission that three differef. t developers were
prepared to discuss senior housing within the community at the Stud Session of 21
February. He said he intends to invite the Council to that meeting
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None.
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ADJOURNMENT
Janet Leslie and Richard Spellman each announced that they will be ~nable to attend the
Planning Commission meetings of 21 February and 7 March 1989. WithiPat Mason on leave of
absence. there will not be a quorum available until the Council apppints a new Planning
Commission member. I
Leslie moved. seconded by Spellman to adjourn the meeting at 8:36 P~M.
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Motion carried
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.PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY. 21 FEBRUARY 1989
ClOUNCIL CHAMBERS
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioner Robertson; Planner Nielse1;
Planning Assistant Helgesen.. !
Absent: Commissioners Benson. Mason. Leslie. and Spellman. (a~l excused).
Approval of the minutes of 7 February 1989 was deferred to the
lack of a quorum.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
SENIOR HOUSING
. Chair Schul tz welcomed
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Planner Nielsen introduced George Sherman. of Sherman-Boosalis Intetests. Inc.. Mike
Wiley of M.R. Wiley and Associates. Inc.. and Vern Knoll. whose soniis an architect and
builder. Mr. Sherman was invited by Commissioner Robertson to prov~de information to the
Planning Commission and Council in regard to senior housing concept1' Mr. Wiley and Mr.
Knoll were invited to present their view from a developer's perspec~ive as they may have
specific proposals in mind for the City. .
the attendance of Mayor Haugen and
Gagne. Brancel
George Sherman said that his business is metro area housing develop.ent. His company.
over the last several years has developed 5000 housing units. and 2QOO rental units.
one-third of which are rented to seniors. He is a member of the Mi4neapolis Board of
Housing Task Force. as well as the State of Minnesota Housing Finanqe Agency (MHFA).
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He advises the City that whatever proposal it hears. a market placeiinvestigation be
requested and changes that the future will bring be factored in. ~e senior market is
expanding and growing every year due to life expectancy factors. PioPle are now retiring
as early as age 45. However. government subsidies are available to persons age 55 and
over. I
He said that a vast majority of the failures in development is in Slnior housing due to
the fact that: government is not financing for senior housing; the air Housing Law
(passed in the past 30 days) says that a "senior project" must be a le to demonstrate
. that the majority of it is devoted to seniors and must be in the me ro area. the federal
government demands a mixed occupancy unless services are provided s rictly for seniors on
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.a daily basis; unstable financing by developers; seniors want what
single-family homes). but they are unable to afford them; seniors w
need alternative forms of financing; senior housing sites should be
services (within the community) over a long period of time; occupan
very high.
hey are used to (i.e.
t variety. and also
able to provide
y turnover rate is
Mr. Sherman suggested that cities should consider shared facilities with other
communities.
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Mike Wiley explained that there are four types of housing availableito seniors:
subsidized (many seniors won't accept); multi-family (lacking in sef. ices); high-rise
facility (seniors experience loss of lifestyle); or Bungalows. whic Mr. Wiley went on to
describe.
The Bungalows offer one-story. single-family style living available I within its own
community. Services provided include a full-time director. occupati~nal therapist on
staff. support groups for grief; other limited on-site services. U,its are available for
sale at $50.000 to 70.000. or rent at $395 for one bedroom or $465 jWO bedroom. utilities
and maintenance included. Site maintenance and services are paid t rough association
fees for purchased units.
Mr. Wiley suggested that the City consider forming a committee of s niors to make
recommendations as to what they would like to see in the City for s,nior housing.
.He said he is looking for a 7 - 10 acre site for a 9 - 10 unit per lcre density. The
Bungalows provide 2+ spaces per unit parking. so there is not a pro*lem satisfying a
mixed occupancy criteria. I
Vern Knoll said he was appearing for his son. Judd. who is an architect and a builder
based in Madison. Wisconsin.
He said they are interested in building lower-income elderly housin;'. Up to 16 units per
site blended in with the existing neighborhood. Rental prices rang $250 - 300 which
includes all utilities and maintenance. He said he was advised tha Shorewood would be
eligible for "Farm Home" financing. i
Jan Haugen suggested
agreed that a market
do the market survey
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that a market survey be done possibly as a joi*t venture. It was
survey is the first step. Vern Watten said helfeels the City should
itself. It was also agreed that Tax IncrementlFinanCing needs to be
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Jim Schultz said the City should update the Comprehensive Plan to d+termine what the City
is ready to accept. and where. !
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The Council has asked the Planning Commission to address the issue ff requ1r1ng building
permits for all structures regardless of size. This measure would tnsure that all
structures are meeting the required setbacks. and that construction I is completed in a
timely fashion.
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This item was deferred to the next study session due to the lack ofla quorum.
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The Planning Commission and Council briefly discussed the idea of eJforCing a Rental
Housing Regulations ordinance. The objective being to protect the enter and the City.
Bob Gagne said aesthetics. safety. etc. can be protected by the Cit . and feels the
"Truth in Housing" code should be adopted. '
Planner Nielsen said liability and enforcement is a concern. AdditJonal inspection
services would be needed to keep up with such an ordinance. 1
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Barb Brancel suggested having the Fire Marshall involved.
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Further discussion was deferred to the next Planning Commission stu4y session.
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Planner Nielsen mentioned that Cliff Anderson has requested that his variance request be
considered at the next available Council meeting (the request was ~bled at the 13
February Council meeting). All present determined that since the.n ture of the request
has changed. it should go back to the Planning Commission for reV1 .
. REPORTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Robertson moved. seconded by Schultz to adjourn the meeting at
unanimously.
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Motion carried
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:46 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Robertson and Benson; Coun il Liaison Stover;
Planner Nielsen; Planning Assistant Helgesen.
Absent:
Commissioners Mason. Leslie. Spellman and Bongaards (al excused).
Approval of minutes was deferred to the next meeting due to the
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ADJOURNMENT
There being no quorum present. Chair Schultz suggested adjournment tf
followed by informal discussion of rental housing regulations.
the meeting. to be
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Kobertson moved. seconded by Schultz to adjourn the meeting at 7:47 P.M.
.RENTAL HOUSING REGULATIONS - INFORMAL DISCUSSION
Motion carried.
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Planner Nielsen said that he has discussed proposed rental housing regulations among
staff members Joe Pazandak. Building Inspector. and Joe Wallin. Fir, Marshal. He
provided an outline of items for consideration. and said that he is also compiling a
sampling of ordinances from other cities for purposes of drafting a proposed ordinance
for Shorewood. He said that staff agrees that the ordinance should apply to all rental
properties. i.e. single-family as well as apartment unit dwellings. ,
Schultz asked what Nielsen thought was the common denominator of pr blem properties.
Nielsen said that lack of maintenance appears to be the underlying ause of problems
which lead to unsafe conditions. Nielsen said enforcement of neces ary corrections is a
problem. and adopting an ordinance would make enforcement more feas ble.
Frequency of inspections was discussed. Staff recommends an initial inspection (upon
license application). inspection upon complaint. and inspections evtry three years.
Schultz asked if this proposed ordinance would protect commercial property tenants as
well as residential tenants. Stover said she would like to see a c9mmercial rental
ordinance. Nielsen said that a commercial rental ordinance. if pro*osed. should be
covered under a separate ordinance. i
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Some leases
the tenant.
. that issue.
state that any necessary repairs and maintenance are tht' responsibility of
Nielsen said that one of the sample ordinances has a d sclaimer addressing
which should be an item that is adopted by Shorewood. I
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Some cities actually take it upon themselves to correct the problem and assess the cost
back to the property. such as Shorewood can do through its nuisance ordinance. Liability
over this and other items such as evicting tenants due to hazardous conditions was
discussed. Where would the tenants go? Who pays for accommodation? Who is to
determine what is "hazardous" enough to warrant such action? Perha s ordering the
landlord to evict the tenant would be the solution in that case. th reby the landlord
becomes responsible to accommodate the tenant.
Nielsen also provided an outline for implementation of the ordinancf" The first draft of
an ordinance will be presented to the Planning Commission at its 4 pril 1989 meeting.
Submitted by:
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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MINUTES
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY. 21 MARCH 1989
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:36 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Robertson. Benson and Bong ards; Council Liaison
Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Assistant Helgesen.
Absen t:
Commissioners Mason. Leslie. Spellman (all excused).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Robertson moved. seconded by Benson to approve the minutes of 7 February. 21 February.
and 7 March. 1989 as written. Motion carried unanimously.
SETBACK VARIANCE - RECONSIDERATION
Cliff Anderson - 5351 Shady Hills Circle
This request was originally presented to the Planning Commission atlits 7 February
meeting. A revision of the request was presented to the Council wh+ referred the
. proposal back to the Planning Commission. .
Chair Schultz reopened the public portion of the public hearing at t:43 P.M.
Planner Nielsen explained the change in the request as presented inltwo alternative
forms: 1) a 5 foot front yard setback variance for a corner of thf garage. with a 12
foot rear yard setback variance for a corner of the house; or 2) . 21 foot rear yard
setback variance. with the house meeting the front yard setback. N~elsen said that any
of the proposals would be acceptable in demonstrating hardship inclfding the original
proposal.
Dexter Marston. representing Peggy and Phil Marsten for the proposat. reviewed the
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history of the lot. He stated that the site meets the hardship criteria for severe
topography (40%). lot configuration/shallowness. and said that no of her lot in the
neighborhood has this combination of physical constraints. Site alteration would be
less necessary with the proposed plan. I
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Schultz asked which alternative was desired by the applicant. peggr Marsten said that
the plan described as Exhibit A-3 of the Planner's Report dated 16 ~rch 1989 is their
preference.
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Scott Sandell. 5345 Shady Hills Circle. asked if the current housejroposal is the same
as originally proposed. and if the garage could be moved back or r .uced in size or
eliminated? Peggy Marsten said yes it is the same and the length of the garage cannot be
shortened if it is to meet building code. Planner Nielsen stated t~at the zoning
. ordinance requires a site plan to show where a two car garage can bf located on the site.
whether it is planned to be built or not. .
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Pat Malmsten. 5350 Shady Hills Circle. said that his original concern was having the
house too close to the front. but now he is concerned about having he house too close to
the wetlands. I
Phil Marsten explained that there is 50 feet of neighboring property behind his lot
before the wetlands even begin.
Sandell questioned location of wetlands. Nielsen provided a topogr phy sketch of the
Johnson property which is adjacent to Marsten's and which contains he wetlands in
question.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:03 P.M.
Robertson asked if the applicant had considered
they looked at other designs with Councilmember
they wanted. and needed to meet building code.
best choice of the available designs.
other house designs~
Watten. The propos~d
He said Watten agretd
Phil Marsten said
design fit the size
that it was the
Robertson asked how the wetlands will be protected. Nielsen said t at erosion control is
required between the building site and the wetlands during the buil ing process.
Schultz noted the conflicting desires of the public as to whether t ey wanted to protect
the front of the lot versus the rear of the lot. and said it won't e possible to please
. everyone.
Robertson said she didn't see the hardship as being completely Uniqte due to the fact
that the adjacent lot has an obvious problem as well. Dexter Marstfn said the adjacent
lot doesn't have the lack of depth as this one. and it is the combiration of hardship
which makes this lot unique.
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Benson moved. seconded by Robertson to recommend to Council approva} of a front yard
setback variance of 5 feet and a rear yard setback variance of 13 ffet as shown in
Exhibit A-3 of the Planner's report dated 16 March 1989. Motion carried unanimously by
roll call vote - 4 ayes.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 27 March 1989.
8:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY PLAT - MARILYNWOOD 2ND ADDIT ON
K & H Builders - South end of Riviera Lane
Mr. Gerald Kelsch. representing K & H Builders and Developers is re uesting approval of a
preliminary plat to divide approximately 4.98 acres of property loc ted at the south end
of Riviera Lane into three single-family residential lots. The pro Dosed lots would
exceed the R-1C district area requirements by 3 to 4 times in size. and also exceed the
district's dimension requirements.
Planner Nielsen reviewed his recommendations. and added one that
City Engineer review drainage at the time of final plat approval
. concern of a drainage problem which already exists at the end of
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:14 P.M.
wo~ld require that the
du~ to a neighborhood
Riiriera Lane.
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Larry Hanson of Schoe1l and Madsen (project engineer) expressed conr. ern over the ability
to maintain a less than 8% grade for the driveway on Lot 2. Planne Nielsen said the
right house design would work on this grade. Hanson discussed poss.bilities with his
clients, and said that although they don't know at this time what t pe of house will be
built on that lot, building it at the front setback if necessary sh uld accommodate the
grade.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:26 P.M. without co ent.
Robertson moved, seconded by Benson to recommend to Council approval of the preliminary
plat subject to the Planner's recommendations as set forth in his r~port dated l4 March
1989 including the added recommendation that the drainage be sUbjecf' to the City
Engineer's review and approval. Motion carried unanimously.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 27 March 1989.
8:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. TO EXCEED 1000 SQ. FT. OF ACCESSOry SPACE
Paul Bardine - 6085 Riviera Lane :
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:29 P.M.
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Planner Nielsen explained that Mr. Bardine is seeking C.U.P. approv~l to construct
accessory space in excess of 1000 square feet on his property. HiSlhouse is currently
under construction and contains a triple garage facing Riviera Lane He would like to
. include an additional tuck-under garage beneath the main garage and access the lower
level from the opposite direction (south). The total area of acces ory space (1380 sq.
ft.) does not exceed the "footprint" of the principal structure (15 6 sq. ft.), nor does
it exceed 10% of the required lot size for the R-IA district (4000 ~q. ft.).
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Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:34 P.M. without c~ment.
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Benson moved, seconded by Robertson to recommend to Council approv1 of the C.U.P.
Schultz asked the applicant his purpose for this amount of accesso space. Mr. Bardine
said it is intended for storage of his boat and other recreational quipment. Motion
carried unanimously. I
Benson said he felt that requiring the C.U.P. process for this part~cular type of request
seems totally unnecessary. The Commission discussed the various re ons for the C.U.P.
provisions and decided it could be discussed as part of the Zoning rdinance study.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 27 March 1989.
8:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY PLAT - DUTCHER ADDITION
Phil Dutcher - West side of Wedgewood Drive
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Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:46 P.M.
Planner Nielsen explained that Mr. Dutcher would like preliminary
. this site into four single-family residential lots. The property
and contains approximately 2.66 acres. He said the plat meets or
subdivision requirements. Sewer connections are limited at this
moratorium.
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hearing closed at 8:48 P.M. without co~ent.
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Robertson moved. seconded by Bongaards to recommend to Council apprpval of the
preliminary plat subject to the Planner's recommendations as set forth in his report
dated 14 March 1989. Motion carried unanimously.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 27 March 1989. ,
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Schul tz asked about the reforestation "policy" which was brought up at the Joint Study
session by Jan Haugen. and the potential for the City adopting such a policy. Stover
said she will bring it up to the rest of the Council.
REPORTS
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Stover reported on items discussed by the Council at their last meeting: Beaver control;
Dog Ordinance revisions; elderly housing sites; Amesbury ponding ar+a water request;
garbage collection/recycling options.
ADJOURNMENT
Benson moved. seconded by Robertson to adjourn the meeting at 9:34 .M. Motion carried
. unanimously.
Submitted by:
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 4 APRIL 1989
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j::OUNCIL CHAMBERS
~ 755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:33 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Bongaards, Robertson, Spel man, and Benson;
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Assis ant Helgesen.
Absent: Commissioners Mason and Leslie (excused).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Robertson moved, seconded by Benson to approve the minutes of 21 Ma ch 1989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
A memo from Planner Nielsen to the Commission regarding criticism 0 the minutes of the
joint meeting held on 17 January was discussed. Chair Schultz summ rized that it is the
impression on the part of some members of the Planning Commission t at the City Council
does not adhere as strictly as it might to the provisions of the Zo ing Ordinance.
. No action was taken as to the manner in which the minutes are recor ed.
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SIMPLE SUBDIVISION AND LOT AREA VARIANCE
B-T Ventures (Rick Murray) - 23622/23622 Smithtown Road
Mr. Rick Murray, representing B-T Ventures would like to divide thi property located in
the R-2A zoning district and which contains a two-family dwelling, in half by means of
zero lot line division. Due to the location of the existing structu e, the proposed
easterly parcel would be 6090 sq. ft. less than the required 15,000 sq. ft. area per unit
lot. The applicant is requesting a lot area variance.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:45 P.M.
Mr. Murray said his company is marketing several two-family properttes and have not had
any offers as is. They hope by dividing the units they will be abl to sell them
separately. He said the Party Wall Agreement addresses shared util ties and access very
well. He said he does not see why they must separate the sewer util ties.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 7:48 P.M. !
Spellman moved to recommend to Council approval of the simple SUbditiSion and lot area
variance subject to the recommendations as set forth in the Planner s report dated
31 March 1989. Benson seconded for discussion.
Planner Nielsen said that separate utilities are required for a vartety of reasons, for
. instance, potential sewer problems or unpaid utility bills. Althou h he would need to
research the exact reasons for the requirement.
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Schultz asked what disadvantages there would be to jogging the lot tine in order to gain
the additional square footage required to avoid the variance. Nielsen said the westerly
portion of the lot is covered by low, wet ground making much of itractically unusable.
The usable space between the two proposed lots is about equal. Mr. Murray said the
proposed lot line is a marketing concern as well. A lot line that gles too much one
way or the other makes it hard to determine whose backyard is whose
Nielsen suggested that perhaps the Ordinance needs some revision to make division of
existing doubles less difficult.
Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote - 5 ayes.
!his item will appear on the Council agenda of 24 April 1989 at the request of the
applicant.
RENTAL HOUSING ORDINANCE - FIRST DRAFT
Planner Nielsen reviewed each section of the draft ordinance. He s$id the City Attorney
has done some preliminary review and strongly advises against the Ctty doing any
correction of problems itself. In the case of tenant eviction (fori safety purposes) the
Attorney also advises against the City taking any responsibility to accommodate the
tenant. If property must be vacated, it should be the responsibility of the landlord to
see that the tenant has a place to live until the rental unit is safe to return to.
.Nielsen said the definition for "Household" as written in the draft ordinance, should
replace the definition for "Family" in the zoning ordinance. It is important that there
be consistency between the two ordinances.
Schultz asked if nonconforming rental units which have been grandfahered-in due to
existence before 1965 would lose their grandfather rights should th~y fail to apply for a
rental license. Also, do grandfather rights transfer with the sale ~f property? Nielsen
said that would be a good provision to have in the ordinance and w11 check with the
nttorney about it. Grandfather rights currently do transfer with ale, although some
cities have provisions against it. I
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Bongaards said she doesn't feel 5 days is enough time allowed to fife appeal.
Spellman moved, seconded by Robertson to recommend to Council appro al of the first draft
of the rental housing ordinance. I
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Schultz said he would like more time to consider this draft and to hear the comments from
the Attorney, Fire Marshall and Inspector. Nielsen suggested that f'hiS first draft is
sufficient for concept, and he could bring back a second draft inco porating the staff
and attorney's, as well as the Council's comments.
Bongaards asked if the cost of enforcement of this ordinance will bf. that of the
taxpayers? Nielsen said the fees would be designed to cover the co t of enforcement.
Bongaards said this ordinance seems a little like government interf rence.
. Motion carried - 4 ayes - 1 nay (Bongaards). I
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 10 April 1989.
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PERMIT REQUIREMENTS - UTILITY SHEDS/CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS
The Council has requested the Planning Commission to consider the r~quirement of building
permits for utility sheds of any size, in contrast to the current r~quirement of permits
for only those sheds that have a projected roof area of 120 square eet or more. Also
needing consideration is the time allowed to complete construction f sheds as well as
houses.
Planner Nielsen explained that his department recently conducted a urvey of other
communities as to what their requirements are. He said some cities require all buildings
to meet full setbacks, others allow encroachments as does Shorewood. Cities had varying
lengths of time allowed to complete construction. Many are adoptin stricter
regulations, typically requiring completion within 1 year.
Schultz suggested the idea of requiring permanent foundations for al,l building regardless
of size as a determent. Nielsen said that would be difficult to de end and would be
unpopular with residents.
Bongaards moved to recommend to Council to not make any amendments ~o the ordinance
because the current regulations are sufficient in regard to bui1din permit requirements.
Motion died for lack of a second.
Bongaards moved, seconded by Benson to recommend to Qounci1 to not
.permits for tool and utility building under 120 square feet project
carried unanimously.
In regard to construction progress, the Planning Commission directe
draft an ordinance which would require dwellings to have an exterio
year and completely finished within 2 years. Also, to require acce
completely finished within 1 year.
SENIOR HOUSING DISCUSSION
buil ding
area. Motion
Planner Nielsen to
finished within 1
sory buildings to be
This item was brought up as part of an ongoing effort to discuss se housing
development in Shorewood. Planner Nielsen said the City is conside ing allowing senior
housing by C.U.P., or perhaps P.U.D. in certain areas. He said the vity needs to decide
if it considers 12 units per acre acceptable, as this is the minim a developer would
need. He reminded the Commission that senior housing has less impa t per density.
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Nielsen said the City
rough Tax Increment
Schultz asked what if the project fails and is sold as apartments?
Attorney is looking into this. If the City would involve itself, t
Financing for instance, it could retain more control.
The Commissioners agreed that potential sites should be located in entra1 or east
Shorewood near commercial and public services, bus lines, etc.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Commissioners agreed to meet on 18 April to discuss the second draf of the rental
.housing ordinance.
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REPORTS
Stover reported that the Council has postponed its annual work sess~on originally
scheduled for 17 April 1989 until further notice. The Council does iplan to hold a
special meeting with staff for goal-setting purposes. Jim Brimeyer of Sathe & Assoc. who
recently led the search for the new administrator. will facilitate his meeting. He has
said the meeting needs to be limited to eight people. Benson said e thinks "the Council
is kis sing Brimeyer' sass".
Also reported on was the meeting held for Glen Road/Co. Rd. 19 drai age discussion. The
reforestation policy concept was discussed by Council with no actio taken.
ADJOURNMENT
Spellman moved. seconded by Robertson to adjourn the meeting at 10:15 P.M. Motion
carried unanimously. I
Submitted by:
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY. 2 MAY 1989
q:OUNCIL CHAMBERS
f55 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
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M I NUT E S
CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chair Spellman called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Vice-Chair Spellman; Commissioners Mason. Bongaards. Le lie and Benson;
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Assis ant Helgesen.
Absent: Chair Schultz and Commissioner Robertson (both excused)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Benson moved. seconded by Bongaards to approve the minutes of 4 Aprtl 1989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously. I
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In regard to his comment at the 4 April meeting made as a response 0 the Council's
decision to cancel the joint policy-setting session. Benson stated hat he is opposed to
the use of a paid facilitator. He said he feels the Planning Commi sion is the
grassroots of what happens in the City. and that their involvement on City policy is
important. He would rather have seen the Planning and Park Commiss ons. Council and
staff meet on their own as in the past. and not be limited by a fac"litator. He said he
feels the Council made a mistake.
7 :30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT
Minnetonka Portable Dredging - 500 West Lake Street
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Bill Niccum. owner of Minnetonka Portable Dredging. is requesting ~tension of a 1964
Special Use Permit for the operation to continue at its current sit. The permit is due
to expire at the end of this year. He is requesting that the Shor ood Zoning Ordinance
be amended to allow the dredging operation as a conditional use wit in the C-4. Service
Commercial District. and proposes the following as a description fo the dredging
operation:
"Operational facilities for commercial and residential lake and lakeshore dredging.
excavation and related construction and other services and the torage of equipment.
machinery. watercraft. materials and supplies ralating thereto."
Once the text has been amended. the applicant's next step will be t. apply for a rezoning
and conditional use permit. I
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Planner Nielsen reviewed his report and the schematic layout descr~ling existing
conditions of the site as to uses. storage volume. equipment. etc.l~
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:40 P.M.
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Jim Robin. attorney for the applicant. said they
exists. This is a need and emergency-fulfilling
current Ordinance requirements will be difficult
equipment on the site is used in the operation.
neighbors since the operation began in 1964.
are not proposing anything beyond what
business. Some c nditions of the
to meet due to em rgency requests. All
They have not had any problems with the
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Spellman asked if the Noise Ordinance couldn't serve to regulate th~ hours of operation.
Nielsen said that is possible. Niccum said they try to maintain re ular hours between
8:00 A.M. and 6:00 P.M. Some emergency calls require working outsi e those hours, but
they have never had a complaint from a neighbor.
Bongaards asked if any outside boats are docked at the site. Robins said only a large
tour boat from Excelsior (Lady of the Lake), which is too large for any other marina on
the lake to handle. They do not store boats other than that. ,
public hearing closed at 7:55 P.M.
Planner Nielsen noted that some of the mobile uses work within the
setback area. Screening is needed mostly on the east side against
neighborhood.
Mason asked what kind of screening from the lake could be provided.o Niccum said any type
of landcaping or planting along the lake would obstruct the operati n.
Bongaards asked what the frequency is of barges moving in and out of the site. Niccum
said that varies - anywhere from every hour some days, to just twic a day on others.
Leslie asked Mr. Niccum if he had any objections to the Planner's r commendations. He
said no, they have been working hard to keep the site clean and ord rly on their own.
ILeslie asked if there was any chance of working with the Yacht Club on upgrading the
access to the site in order to reduce dust. Robins said they alrea have a contract
agreement with the Yacht Club to share expenses in upgrading the ma"n portion of access
to 9 ton and share maintenance costs. He did not know when the Yac t Club would be ready
to implement the plan.
Nielsen asked how many barges are owned by the operation. Niccum Slid 15 barges, which
includes the smaller tugs, each one has its own purpose. The size f the property limits
the number of possible barges on the site to run the operation.
Benson said the LMCD should be approached for their input on this r quest.
Nielsen reviewed the provisions of Section 1201.23 Subd. 4.b. of
the dredging operation may comply:
the
Ordinance as to how
"Such use does not constitute more than thirty percent (30%) of Ithe lot area and no
more than the floor area of the first story of the principal st~cture": this can
not apply to the operation. i
"The area is fenced and screened from view of neighboring residential uses or if
abutting any R District": screening is needed on the east side of the site.
"Storage is screened from view from the public right-of-way": ,creening is needed on
the south side of the site. I
14. "Storage area is grassed or surfaced to control dust": not pr1tical to comply.
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"Landscaping is provided in c'ompliance with Section 1201.01. subld. 2. g. of the
Ordinance": same as number 2. !
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"All lighting shall be
visible from the public
light currently exists.
hooded and so directed that the light s~rce shall not be
right-of-way or from neighboring reside1ces": one vapor
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"Storage area does not take up parking space as required for CO~formity to this
Ordinance": designated parking area should be required for per onnel.
"Hours of Operation": should approve certain hours. even if ba ed on Noise
Ordinance. I
"Lake use": already regulated by LMCD. Should include referen1e in C.U.P.
10. "Limitation of boat docking to only watercraft used in the busi ess": need for this
provision is questionable.
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11. "Input from DNR": DNR will be notified.
l2. "Drainage and erosion control": current grading drains away fr m the lake.
13. "Limitation of outdoor storage to only that which is related to the principal use":
increased screening is needed more than limitation of storage.
114. "Storage of namable liquids": Fire Marshall should review.
Leslie moved. seconded by Benson to recommend to Council approval o~ the proposed Zoning
Ordinance text amendment to include the dredging operation in the C~4 district by
conditional use permit subject to revised conditions. Actual text ,0 be
reviewed/approved at the May 16 Planning Commission meeting. Motio carried unanimously
by roll call vote - 5 ayes.
7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - COMMERCIAL C.U.P./SETBACK VARIANCE
Frontier Industries - 19285 State Highway 7 and Lot 15
Dennis Clark of Frontier Industries is requesting approval of a C.UjP. to display a
sample dock and boat lift on the rear of property where his office tS located. The
property is located in the C-3. General Commercial zoning district. I He is leasing an
area of land on an adjacent lot upon which the dock display would b~ located. The
proximity to the lot lines requires approval of a setback variance rs well.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:36 P.M.
Mr. Clark stated that no additional lighting is planned for the dis
showing the display after regular business hours. and the display w
summer months only. The dock lengths proposed measure 48 feet and
design. He said the lease agreement will be on an annual renewal b
lay. he will not be
II be set up during
2 feet in an L-shape
sis.
1 Spellman suggested that if the lease is annually renewable. so also should be the C.U.P.
approval. Planner Nielsen agreed.
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hearing closed at !8:59 P.M.
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Bongaards moved, seconded by Mason to recommen4 to Council approval lof the setback
variance and C.U.P. subject to annual administ~ative review/renewal,' and subject to the
Planner's recommendations as set forth in his ieport dated 26 April 1989. Motion carried
unanimously by roll call vote - 5 ayes.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 8 May 1989.
SIMPLE SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION
Scotty G. Asp - 21980 Brackett's Road
Mr. Asp is requesting approval to divide off a portion of
Brackett's Road and combine it with the south qa1f of the
Street to create a new building site on Bracke~t's Road.
exceed the zoning and subdivision ordinance requirements.
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his prope1ty located at 21980
property ocated at 5950 Mill
The lots eing created meet or
Leslie moved, seconded by Bongaards to recomme~d to Council approva
subdivision/combination subject to the P1annerls recommendations as
report dated 25 April 1989. Motion carred una~imous1y by roll call
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of the
set forth in his
vote - 5 ayes.
This item will appear on the Council agenda ofl8 May 1989.
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SIMPLE SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION I
Ipaul Swanson/Brian Mark/Ted Raby - 4670/4690 Lt<eway Terrace and 46~S Fatima Flace
Paul Swanson, 4670 Lakeway Terrace, and Brian ~rk, 4690 Lakeway Te Irace propose to
enlarge their respective lots by buying approx{mate1y 2478.5 squarelfeet of property from
their neighbor to the west, Ted Raby, 4695 Fat~ma Place. From the 1478.5 sq. ft., Mr.
Mark will add 1461.5 sq. ft. to his lot, and Mi' Swanson will add t~e remaining 1017 sq.
ft. to his lot. Mr. Raby's lot area will be r duced to 23,221.5 sq. ft. All lots will
remain in conformance with zoning requirements Mr. Swanson and Mr. Mark will now be
able to add onto their homes without requestin variances.
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The Commission commended the efforts of Mr. Matk and Mr. Swanson f01 increasing the
conformity of their lots and avoiding variance,.
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Benson moved, seconded by Leslie to recommend 110 Council approval 01 the
subdivision/combination subject to the Planner s recommendations as set forth in his
report dated 28 April 1989. Motion carried un nimous1y by roll ca1 vote - 5 ayes.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 8 May 1989. !
DISCUSSION RE:
MINUTES
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Stover said that the Council discussed the P1a~ning Commission minu~es and wanted her to
relay to the Commission that the minutes becom' a public record, so etimes used as a
legal document in court hearings. Therefore i is important that t e minutes not contain
inappropriate quotations. She said it is the irection of the City Council that the
Ip1anning Commission minutes be taken in the ma ner they have always been in the past.
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Also discussed was the productiveness of the goal/policy-setting me4tings held in the
past, and the Council's desire to get more done in fewer, more conc.se sessions, which is
what led to the recent meeting with Jim Brimeyer.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None.
REPORTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Benson moved, seconded by Mason to adjourn the meeting at 10:12 P.M. Motion carried
unanimously.
Submitted by:
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 16 MAY 1989
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
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MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Mason, Leslie, Benson and
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen.
ellman;
Absent:
Commissioner Bongaards (excused).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Leslie moved, seconded by Mason to approve the minutes of 2 May 1989 as written. Motion
carried unanimously.
ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT - CONTINUED
Minnetonka Portable Dredging - 500 West Lake Street
A second draft of the Zoning Ordinance text amendment as discussed a the 2 May Planning
Commission meeting was presented. Planner Nielsen said that minor c anges between the
first and second drafts pose no problems, and are consistent with r tine City
I requirements. The minor changes were requested by the applicant's ttorney, Mr. Bruce
Crist.
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Schul tz asked why the City feels that the dredging operation is conslidered a better use
for this site than residential. Benson noted that it exists as a grlandfathered use, and
there is no other available location. Nielsen stated that in 1985 t~e City looked at the
general area, including Crepeau Docks, and recognized the need for t~ese activities.
Leslie noted that there is evidence that Mr. Niccum has made every r'ffort to be a "good
neighbor". Benson concurred. Nielsen cited a section from a Compre ensive Plan
amendment from 1982 which found the activities acceptable. I
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Schultz said he would like to see the area improved. Nielsen said t~e site plan approved
would be expected to meet current Ordinance requirements. However, same of the property
that may seem to need improvement (such as the location of existing ill boards) is not
owned by the Dredging Company. They only hold access easement over lit jointly with the
Yacht Club, and do plan to pave the access at some time. Nielsen noited that placing a
deadline requirement on paving the access could be incorporated int~ the C.U.P. Spellman
said you cannot hold them responsible for property they do not own. I
Spellman noted that the Eurasion Milfoil eradication program could ~ve an impact on
hours of operation. Nielsen reminded the Commission that they rec~' ended hours of
operation to be based on the PCA's noise ordinance.
Leslie asked if the designated parking area would be paved and curb . Nielsen said yes,
the Ordinance would require that as well as striping.
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Leslie said landscaping requirements need more control to ensure th.t a "screen" is
really a screen. Nielsen said that a bond will be required for lan scape plantings for
two full growing seasons. However, Ordinance requirements are mini 1 and need more
strength. The Ordinance specs are inadequate. In any case, assura ce of maintenance of
landscape requirements and review of same can be incorporated in th C.U.P. provisions.
Benson questioned the change in text from "subject to approval" to approved by".
Nielsen said approval is based on a specific plan which the applica t is committed to.
This text will be subject to review by the City Attorney.
Stover questioned why the Ordinance is allowing storage of one outs de boat. She felt it
should be a C.U.P. provision rather than an Ordinance provision. Ntelsen said he doesn't
feel the C.U.P. should be less restrictive than the Ordinance. He ~autioned the
Commission that allowing storage of one outside boat must apply to ,ny boat, not just the
Lady of the Lake excursion boat. i
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Benson moved to recommend to Council that the text amendment be acc~Pted subject to the
Council addressing Section 1. (6) regarding storage of one outside oat. Nielsen said
the text amendment will not come back again for Planning Commission review once it is
adopted by the Council. Benson withdrew his motion. I
'Spellman questioned the value of having the DNR review the C.U.P. *ielsen said that
since the site is in the Shoreland District, the Ordinance requires their review.
Spellman moved, seconded by Benson to recommend to Council adoption of the Ordinance text
amendment as per the second draft subject to exclusion of the secon sentence in item 16
under Section 1 "Exception: One (1) boat, not owned by the owner of the property, may be
stored on the site."
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Leslie asked if it is appropriate to allow the boat storage in the i'U'P' Nielsen said
the C.U.P. should be more restrictive than the Ordinance (by adding conditions, not
omitting conditions).
Commissioners discussed reasons for allowing versus omitting the prlvision in item 6
regarding boat storage. It was decided that the request is to allo~ a dredging
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operation, not a boat storage business. i
Motion carried by roll call vote - 4 ayes - 1 nay (Leslie). Leslie I said she didn't agree
with eliminating the one boat storage. '
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 22 May 1989.
PERMIT REQUIREMENTS - CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS - PROPOSED AMENDMENT
This agenda item was deferred until a later date.
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lMATTERS FROM '!HE FLOOR
Schultz extended his compliments to Larry Whittaker as a great City Administrator. He
has been working with him on the Comparable Worth.
Schultz questioned the latest activities on the Mike Arvidson prope ty, who is renting
boat storage space without any type of permit or license.
Planner Nielsen said he will be presenting a status report on Crepe u Docks.
REPORTS
Stover said that since Robertson has resigned, the Commission
of any candidates they may know to replace her area.
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Stover reported on planning items approved by the Council at their
discussion of the Eurasion Milfoil weed.
Spellman reported that Chester Yanik of Enchanted Island is
front of his property.
tearing [up
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ADJOURNMENT
should be thinking
meeting, and
the r. o. w . in
Leslie moved, seconded by Benson to adjourn the meeting at 9:10 P.M~ Motion carried
. unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Kristi Stover
Patti Helgesen
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. CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY. 6 JUNE 1989
~UNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Spellman. Benson. Mason. Bongaards and Leslie;
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Asst. Helgesen.
Absent: None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Spellman moved. seconded by Mason to approve the minutes of 16 May ~989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously. I
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7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - HEIGHTS CF ST. ALBANS BAY
Gene Erickson - Southeast quadrant of St. Albans Bay Road and Manor Road
.Mr. Gene Erickson is requesting approval of a rezoning and preliminary plat for
approximately 6.5 acres of property located in the southerly quadrant of the intersection
of St. Albans Bay Road and Manor Road. He asks that the City change the current R-1A
(40.000 sq. ft. lots) zoning to R-1B (30.000 sq. ft. lots). Based en R-1B zoning he
proposes a preliminary plat consisting of eight lots served by a shert cul-de-sac. The
proposed density (1.2 units/acre) is under current Comp Plan proposed density (2-3
units/acre). All proposed lots meet or exceed the proposed R-1B zo1ing requirements.
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The City Engineer's report does not find the proposed grade of the 1'oad (10%) or location
acceptable. The location of a house under construction by the deve oper may prevent a
better location and resulting grade of the road.
Dan Blake. Sathre-Bergquist. said that without the rezoning seven b~ildingS could fit on
the site. He said he agrees that the existing driveway which is ap roximately the
location of the proposed street. is a hazard. He said he was at th site today and
parked his car off St. Albans Bay Road into the bushes and measured up to 300 feet of
sight distance. He proposed to improve the proposed road by moving it northwesterly
approximately 30 feet. and snaking a curve into it and add a little ,length. He said this
would result in an 8% grade with a landing at the top and bottom. ~e requested approval
of the plat subj ect to the City Engineer's approval of the revision in the road. or to
table the request to provide him more time to revise the road and w(rk with the City
Engineer. He added that clearing some of the brush away from St. AJbans Bay Road will
help improve the sight distance as well.
. Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:46 P.M.
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Chair Schultz acknowledged letters of objection to the
safety hazards due to the proposed road. Letters were
Frank J. Stangel. 5225 St. Albans Bay Road
Richard E. Gu1strand. 20635 Manor Road
William Gu11ifer. 20655 Manor Road
Michael Collins. 5215 St. A1bans Bay Road
Alan and Mary Weingart. 5330 St. Albans Bay Road
proposed den lity
submitted by ~
and traffic
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Jim Burkholder. 5290 St. Albans Bay Road. said he wasn't aware of t~e Comp Plan
designation for this area. he thought it was for 40.000 sq. ft. 10t~. and he is against
rezoning the density. He said the proposed access road is in an area of poor visibility.
clearing brush may help. but traffic tends to speed and there have ~een many near
accidents at the curve in St. Albans Bay Road in the winter. I
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Richard Gu1strand. 20635 Manor Road. said he doesn't understand how iseven lots could be
developed under the current R-1A zoning. and he doesn't believe the proposed road could
be safe. Dan Plowman. Realtor for site. said that the existing hou e on the corner
(grossly substandard lot) would create the seventh building on the ite.
Charles Thompson. former owner of portion of site. said he has neve had a problem coming
up his driveway (where the proposed road would be located).
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William Gul1ifer. 20655 Manor Road. concurs with concerns over traf1ic hazards. he said
~he saw a car go right off the road once. He said he is not opposed to buildings at the
~current R-1A zoning.
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plans to build and reside on proposed Lot 6. an~ also has small
the answer to traffic speeding and hazards is i4creased patrol by the
Dan Plowman said he
children. He feels
local police.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 7:55 P.M.
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Spellman moved to recommend to Council denial of the rezoning reque1t and preliminary
plat. Benson seconded for discussion. Spellman said his motion to ,deny is based on the
fact that the engineer is not going to accept the proposed road. !
Dan Blake said they are hoping the added length in the road will saiiSfY the engineer as
an alternative. They cannot comply with the engineer's recommended road due to R-1B
minimum lot size requirements and the fact that a house is already nder construction on
proposed Lot 5.
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Leslie said she visited the site tonight and encountered a hazardou~ situation at that
time (car speeding around curve).
Mason wanted more information regarding the zoning issue. Planner
Plan density was based on existing surrounding density and also to
redevelopment of Carmichael's junk yard. Mason said she would pref
remain. perhaps that would allow for improvements in the proposed r
. that traffic is hazardous in that area.
ie1sen said the Comp
ncourage
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Motion to deny failed unanimously by roll call vote - 6 nays.
Spellman moved, seconded by Benson to table the request up to 60 da~ pending rev~s~on of
plan subject to the City Planner's and City Engineer's review. MotiF, n carried
unanimously by roll call vote - 6 ayes. I
7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VARIANCES
James Pyle (Skipperette Store) - 19215 State Highway 7
Mr. James Robin, attorney for Mr. Pyle, has requested a conditional ~se permit and
variances to add motor fuel sales to the Skipperette convenience gr4eery store. As
detailed in the Planner's staff report dated 31 May 1989, seven var"ances are idenfified
as requiring approval for the proposed use of this site. ,
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Planner Nielsen reviewed his report highlighting the nonconformitiesl within the proposal.
There is some question as to the actual location of the property 1ige versus the Vine
Hill Road r.o.w. The applicant's site plan shows the property boun~ry to the centerline
of Vine Hill Road. The site is grossly substandard for parking lot Isetbacks. The
one-way system would create traffic circulation and parking prob1eq. There is no
adequate room for snow storage. The City Engineer's preliminary r iew of grading and
drainage finds the proposal unacceptable. The Fire Marshall also h s some serious
concerns regarding runoff.
.PUb1iC portion of the public hearing opened at 8:45 P.M.
James Robin said the property description clearly goes
Road. Mr. Pyle has maintained the grassed area of the
closed down the video arcade to please the neighbors.
the site to also please the neighbors.
to the cente:1ine of
Highway r.o. . for 3
He would 1ik to add
Vine Hill
years and he
fuel pumps to
Mike Eicher, Pump and Meter Service, said with the current amount o~ business the
Skipperette does, it doesn't need 13 parking stalls (as required by IOrdinance). He does
agree this is a difficult site to place fuel pumps on. i
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Schultz suggested to the applicant that he consider revising the p1,n.
James Favre, 5152 Va11eyview Road, Minnetonka, said he has lived nedr the site for 26
years and feels the intersection at Vine Hill Road/Highway 7 is ve~ dangerous and adding
gas pumps to the Skipperette will add to the existing traffic prob1~ms.
Marty Scroggins, 5210 Shady Lane, does not want a gas station at th~s site. He is
concerned about ground water contamination and pollution, as well a~ increased traffic
haza rds .
Tom Heimer, 5215 Shady Lane, said any increase in traffic in this a~ea would be murder.
Chair Schultz acknowledged a letter submitted by Douglas Brown of tge adjacent commercial
office building who feels there is a "big need for gas on the south,ide of Highway 7."
. Public portion of the public hearing closed at 9 :00 P.M.
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Spellman moved, seconded by Leslie to recommend to Council denial 0
permit and variances for this site. Motion carried unanimously by
ayes.
the conditional use
011 call vote - 6
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 12 June 1989.
8:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. FOR ACCESSORY SPACE AND SETBACK V RIANCE
Lee LaBore - 4445 Enchanted Point
Mr. LaBore is in the process of replacing an old cabin on the site ith a new house and
attached garage. He would like to keep and remodel an existing gar ge located on the
north end of the property. Combined, the two garages exceed 1000 s uare feet in area for
which he needs a C.U.P. The existing garage is only 20 feet from a existing public
r.o.w. (requiring a 35 foot setback) and to remain in its current 1 cation requires
setback variance approval. The total accessory space will not exce d the footprint size
of the new house, nor will it exceed 10% of the minimum lot size re~uirement, therefore
the request complies with the Zoning Ordinance criteria for C.U.P. fPprova1.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 9:10 P.M.
Mr. LaBore said that the new siding and roofing on the existing garlge will match that of
the new house. He will also be removing an old septic system on th~ site and connecting
to the City sanitary sewer.
. Peter Zucca, of neighboring lot, spoke in favor
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 9:17 P.M.
of Mr. LaBore's pro~osa1.
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Spellman moved, seconded by Bongaards to recommend to Council appro+a1 of the C.U.P. and
setback variance for the existing garage. Motion carried unanimous~y.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 12 June 1989.
8:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE
David Maley - 4365 Enchanted Drive
Planner Nielsen reviewed his report. Mr. Maley proposes to build a deck measuring 12' x
71', spanning the rear width of the house, approximately 33 feet fru the ordinary high
water mark of Lake Minnetonka (a variance of 17 feet). It also wra s around the
northwest side of the house, requiring a side yard setback variance of six feet. He also
intends to screen in a porch underneath the deck. Several neighbor ng properties have
existing decks closer to the lake than 50 feet, and the Ordinance r,cognizes this factor
as justification of a variance. However, the extent of the varianc~ is considered
somewhat questionable. Some reduction in size has been recommendedt
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Public portion of the public hearing opened at 9:20 P.M.
Mr. Maley (applicant's father) said he agrees with the Planner's refommendations.
. Benson asked why the screened-in area underneath should be e1iminatid. Nielsen said that
screening-in would allow the livable area of the lower level to exp.nd.
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Dale Johnson. 4425 Highland Circle (neighbor adjacent on east side).
house to conform to the 75 foot setback at that time. He would 1ik
corner on his side modified by cutting an angle off of the northeas
He said that the neighbor on the adjacent west side of Maley's prop
convey to the City that he is opposed to a side yard setback varian
the deck which wraps around the house.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 9:33 P.M.
said he built his
to see the deck
corner of the deck.
rty asked him to
e for the portion of
Spellman moved. seconded by Mason to recommend to Council approval f the 1akeshore
setback variance subject to cutting the corner off of the northeast side of the deck. as
well as the modifications as recommended in the Planner's report as follows:
The deck should be reduced in width to 10 feet. maintaining a s1tback of at least 35
feet from the ordinary high water mark.
No portion of the deck. including stairs. should extend past th1 northwest side of
the house.
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The screened-in area should be eliminated.
4. The 15 feet given on the lake side of the lot should be made
Specifically. instead of 35 feet on the street side. 50 feet
. the setback area.
Motion carried 5 ayes - 1 nay (Benson).
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 12 June 1989.
up Ion the street side.
sh1u1d be maintained as
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None.
REPORTS I
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Stover reported that the Council discussed recycling. the audit replrt. and Highway 7
intersection alternatives at their last meeting. She said the P1anJing Commission will
need to hold public hearing on the Old Market Road intersection pro~osa1 probably in
August of this year. l
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Leslie moved. seconded by Spellman to adjourn the meeting at 10:22
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted:
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assistant
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. CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY. 18 JULY 1989
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755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
:30 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:36 P.M.
Present:
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Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Asst. Helgesen.
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Absent:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE
Nicholas Dennis - 5360 Howard's Point Road
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Leslie moved, seconded by Bongaards to approve th~ minutes of 6
Motion carried unanimously.
1989 as written.
.Mr. Dennis recently completed a new home at 5360 Howard's Point hoa , where a concrete
patio on the rear side of the house was mistakenly constructed five feet too close to the
lake. Mr. Dennis is requesting approval of a setback variance whic would allow him to
leave the patio in its current location. He has ~een required to s bmit an escrow
deposit to ensure compliance with the setback should he fail to rec ive approval.
Planner Nielsen explained that the patio edge is 45.3 feet from theiordinary high water
mark of Lake Minnetonka. Homes adjacent on both sides of the Denni property have decks
as close as the lakeshore itself.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:38 P.M.
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Mr. Dennis said he has talked to all of his neigh~ors, and they hav~ submitted letters of
support of the request.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 7:41 P.M.
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Spellman moved, seconded by Bongaards to recommend to Council approTal of
variance and refund of the escrow deposit. Motion carried unanimourly.
Schultz asked how the patio ended up in the setback. Mr. Dennis sa d the
extra material left over and was instructed to use it up without ad quate
the approved plan.
the se tback
con tractor had
attention to
This item will be on the Council agenda of 24 July 1989.
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18 July 1989
Meeting
7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY PLAT - KORDONOWY ADDITION
Thomas Kordonowy - 6100 Apple Road
Mr. Kordonowy is requesting preliminary plat approval to divide his~property into four
lots. His property is located in the R-1C zoning district and cons sts of 11.98 acres,
approximately 3.57 acres of which is designated wetland. He is pro osing one large lot
for his present home to be accessed from Apple Road, and three rema~ning lots to abut
Brackett's Road. All proposed lots meet or exceed the zoning and s4bdivision
requirements even after the designated wetland has been deducted frr the square footage.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:48 P.M.
Nielsen said the wetland area can be platted as an Outlot or covere by a conservation
easement, at the developer's choice. The easement option should re uire a 40 foot
setback from the easement. He said that for practical purposes, Ci y staff would prefer
the Outlot option, if the choice was available. An Outlot would be deeded over to the
City.
Mr. Kordonowy said he will choose to place an easement over the wet and rather than
dedicate any land to the City. He said that he is selling his prop rty and moving out of
Shorewood due to excessive taxes. He said he hopes the City will m4ke some attempt at
4ItredUCing property taxes. He stated that he has no disagreement Wit~. any of the other
Planner's recommendations. I
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Don Huntington, 21990 Brackett's Road, said he is concerned about d~ainage being able to
get to and from the wetland area once the lots are developed. He s1es a potential
flooding problem. I
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Nielsen said this issue will be addressed by the City Engineer and ~Uilding pad
elevations will be determined. Schultz suggested that the Engineer specifically look at
the drainage pattern of the area and potential flooding as part of is review.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:12 P.M. i
Leslie moved, seconded by Spellman to recommend to Council approval~of the preliminary
plat subject to the Planner's recommendations, with the additional equirement that the
wetlands be platted as an Outlot and deeded to the City. I
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Mr. Kordonowy objected to the additional requirement, especially sitce he has already
closed the sale of the property with a certain amount of acres (inc uding wetlands).
Deeding the outlot to the City would reduce the amount of acres.
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Schultz said that would be an economic consideration and the ordinaf,ce prohibits that
from being a valid issue on its own for hardship.
Kordonowy said he doesn't see how the City is benefitted any better by Outlot than
easement anyway.
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Leslie amended the motion to recommend to Council approval of the p~'eliminary plat
subject to the requirement of a conservation easement over the desi nated wetlands with a
40 foot setback from same, and also subject to the Planner's recomm ndations:
1. The lot line between Lots 1 and 2 should be realigned as shown An Exhibit C of the
Planner's report dated 2 July 1989. 1
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The final plat should provide additional r.o.w. for Brackett's ~oad.
Drainage and utility easements should be provided on the final tlat.
The City Engineer should determine whether soil tests should be required for Lots
1-3. As part of the final plat a detailed grading plan, showin,. building pad
elevations, should be reviewed by the City Engineer. The Engin er should also review
site and area drainage as it affects Lots 1-3.
A final plat must be submitted within six months of preliminaryt' plat approval.
Up-to-date (within 30 days) title opinions must be submitted fo both parcels at the
time the final plat is submitted.
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When a final plat is submitted the applicant must advise the City Clerk as to how he
wants sewer equalization charges spread against the lots.
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8. Park dedication fees for this plat total $1500 (credit is allow,d for the lot with
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Schultz said he would prefer to require an Outlot over the wetlandslif the City has the
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Motion carried by roll call vote - 5 ayes - 1 nay (Schultz).
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 24 July 1989.
DISCUSSION OF SENIOR HOUSING
Planner Nielsen said Mr. Mike Wiley was scheduled to appear to disc~ss a plan for senior
housing, but was unable to attend tonight's meeting. He will appear on 1 August.
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None.
REPORTS
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Nielsen said he is planning to schedule a public hearing for the waferford 3rd Phase
(with intersection) proposal before the Planning Commission on 22 A gust 1989. The
. meeting will be held at the Minnewashta School gymnasium due to the anticipated number of
people. Planning Commissioners said they had no conflict with that date.
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Reports, continued:
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Council Liaison Stover said that at their 10 July meeting, the Coun9il heard comment
opinion from the Waterford residents regarding the proposed Waterfo~d 3rd phase and
intersection. I
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Motion carried
Leslie moved, seconded by Spellman to adjourn the meeting at 9:30
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Patti Helgesen
Planning Assist.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
. TUESDAY, 15 AUGUST 1989
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5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
M I NUT E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:32 P.M.
Absent:
Dave Pitney (excused).
Chair Schultz; Commiasioners Leslie, Spellman, Benson, ~son, Bongaardsl
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Asst.1:elgeSen.
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Present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Spellman moved. seconded by Mason to approve the minutes of 18 July 11989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE/VARIANCE TO INCREASE
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE
William Waples - 5685 Echo Road
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Mr. Waples would like to add a second story to his existing home Wh~Ch is only 6.4 feet
. from the north side lot line. He proposes to extend the structure traight up from the
existing walls which will increase the nonconformity. He is reques ing a 3.6 foot
setback variance and variance to increase the nonconformity of a no~conforming structure.
Planner Nielsen explained that due to the fact that there is ample ~uildable area on the
lot south of the existing house. the variance does not meet the hardship test of the
ordinance. Mr. Waples said that he does not feel a 44" encroaChmen~ is unreasonable. and
he would lose two mature trees on the south side if he built the ad ition on that side.
He added that the property slopes down on the south side as well.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:35 P.M.
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Sue Tolschner. 5780 Echo Road. said she is concerned about the unke~'t condition of the
property. There are six cars parked in the driveway and one on the street. Mr. Waples
said he is aware of the "shabby" appearance of the property and he ishes to make
improvements to it now.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 7:39 P.M.
Spellman moved. seconded by Bongaards to recommend to Council deni~ of the setback
variance and variance to increase the nonconformity. I
Leslie asked Mr. Waples how he feels about "alternative G" of the p1annerlS report. He
said it does not create enough floor space for their needs. Leslie said she is hesitant
to see the nonconformity increased and a precedent set.
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.7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE/VARIANCE TO INCREASE TH NONCONFORMITY OF A
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE
Siegfried Weissner - 26780 Smithtown Road I
Mr. Weissner proposes to add a second story to his home. The existIng house does not
comply with the front yard setback, and since he is proposing to bu 1d directly over the
existing structure, he has requested a setback variance and varianc to increase the
nonconformity of a nonconforming structure. ,
Lhe Planner's report notes that a 28.5 x 42 foot second story addit~on could be built
without a variance (starting approx. 12 feet back from the front of I the building), and
there is also buildable area behind the house.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:50 P.M.
Mr. Weissner said that two years ago he was told that the City cou14 issue him a building
permit for an addition if he jogged it back just 4 to 5 feet from t~e front of the house.
He also said that the building inspector suggested that he apply fo~ a setback variance
so he could build upon the existing walls. Mr. Weissner submitted , petition of
signatures from his area neighbors supporting his proposal. !
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Leslie asked how much space is gained by the alternative sUggestion:exhibited in the
Planner's report. Planner Nielsen said that nearly 1200 sq. ft. co 1d be built as a
~ second story without a variance, plus there is room behind the hous, to add 400 sq. ft.
to the first level or 800 sq. ft. as a two level addition, for a 16qO to 2000 sq. ft.
additional living space potential. Commissioners noted that this w~uld be more space
than is being proposed by the applicant.
Spellman moved, seconded by Benson to recommend denial of the setba1k
variance to increase the nonconformity. Motion carried unanimously
This item will be on the Council agenda of 28 August 1989.
variance and
HEIGHTS OF ST. ALBANS BAY - REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT (tabled f om 6 June 1989)
Gene Erickson - S.E. quadrant of St. Albans Bay Road and Manor Road
This proposal was tabled at the 6 June Planning Commission meeting ~n order to allow the
developer time to address the proposed road design. The developer ~as modified his
original design and submitted a traffic engineering analysis dated f9 June 1989 prepared
by Benshoof and Assoc. Also received was additional public respons opposing the
proposal which became attachments to the staff report. These respo ses were from:
Richard Gu1strand, 20635 Manor Road, Jim and Trudy Burkholder, 5290 St. Albans Bay Rd,
and John E. Sayer,S Channel Drive (Greenwood).
Planner Nielsen reviewed his report. The main focus has been on thl proposed road due to
its location and proposed grade of 8% (originally proposed to be 10 ), where the
ordinance requires 6%. Nielsen said the question is: is a varianc to the street grade
. requirements of the ordinance appropriate due to the applicant's 10 ation of the house
under construction on existing Lot 47
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~RiCk Sathre. Sathre and Bergquist Engineering. presented a graph wh"ch illustrated the
difference between a 6, 8 and 10 percent slope compared to the exis ing grade (approx.
13%) at the site of the proposed location of the road. He said all wing a greater slope
would cause less site disturbance, however, a 6 percent slope can b achieved by filling
up to 10 feet. He said the 2% slope landing at the top of the road is proposed to begin
at the center of the existing paved portion of St. Albans Bay Road, and remain at 2% for
a distance of 25 feet. He also added that he feels the proposed R- B zoning would be in
keeping with the existing neighborhood.
Leslie and Benson asked for clarification of the 2% slope landing, whether or not that
landing is within the public r.o.w. Mr. Sathre said yes it is WithJ1n the r.o.w., and if
a car were stopped at the intersection of the proposed road and St. Albans Bay Road, the
car would be entirely within the City r.o.w. Mr. Sathre agree with the City Engineer in
that it would be better if the landing were longer, but what that w u1d do to the land is
not desirable.
Spellman said the developer is asking the City to compromise the sa~ety standards.
Sathre said he doesn't agree. I
Schultz asked what effect would lengthening the proposed road. ' suchias the City Engineer
has suggested, have on the house under construction? Nielsen said he house could become
a nonconforming structure. ,
Walter Bean, 5285 St. Albans Bay Road, pointed out that "Lot 5" doeJ not exist until the
.rezoning/pre1iminary plat is approved. The existing house under co~struction was issued
a building permit based on the current property known as Lots 3 and 14.
Mr.
Schultz said it seems to him that the developer is trying to squeez~ too much out of this
property, and the problem is compounded by the fact that the app1ic~nt is already
building a house on the property. He doesn't see why the City shou~d compromise any of
its standards in order to accommodate the subdivision of this prope~ty. Topography is a
limiting factor for this site. I
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Jeff Schultz, 5330 Manor Road, said this seems like a good opportun~ty to get rid of the
eyesore (the old white house) which currently sits on the corner. ~f the issue of the
street grade could be overcome, the area could be improved. Chair iChu1tz said if they
hadn't started building the new house in the middle of it, it could have been a nice
plan.
Walter Bean said he is opposed to the rezoning and feels the Compre~ensive Plan is
flawed. The area has been butchered up enough over the years throu~,h platting, it
shouldn't necessarily continue. I
Dan Plowman, (applicant), said platting this property now as proposJd will avoid a
piecemeal subdivision over time in the future. The property will e~d up with a safer
road now than with the possibilities in the future.
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safely achieve the 6% grade and that causes the loss of one lot, th t is an economic
.prob1em of the developer. The problem was really caused by the 10c tion of the house
under construction by the developer.
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~Dan Blake (developer's engineer), asked
if the street grade were not an issue.
access is too important an issue.
how the Commission would fe 1 about the rezoning
Schultz said the issue of r zoning is moot,
Mike Collins, 5215 St. Albans Bay Road, said his driveway is locate right across from
the proposed road. The hazard caused by a steep grade will disable I drivers from stopping
and end up in his yard where his children might be.
Rich Gulstrand, among other things expressed concern over what the ~rade of the
individual private driveways will have to be. and who will maintain!site distance after
the initial clearing of the vegetation along St. Albans Bay Road. !
Spellman moved, seconded by Benson to recommend to Council denial
preliminary plat.
of the rezoning and
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Schultz said he is disappointed that the concerns expressed by the ~ommission at the June
meeting were not adequately addressed by the developer.
Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote - 6 ayes.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 28 August 1989.
SIMPLE SUBDIVISION
Peter Holmberg - 5955 Cajed Lane/27055 Smithtown Road
~Mr. Peter Holmberg of 5955 Cajed Lane and Ms. Barbara Nygaard of 27t55 Smithtown Road
request approval of a subdivision and combination to straighten out the lot line between
their properties. The sites are located in the R-1A zoning distric. Holmberg's lot
contains 39,682 sq. ft. and the Nygaard lot contains 21,290 sq. ft.l They propose to swap
equal-sized triangles of 1886 sq. ft. each. Since both lots are sUfstandand in size for
their zoning district. there is no opportunity to bring either into~onformity. The
purpose of the division/combination is to straighten the common lin between the two so
that the rear yard of the Nygaard lot will no longer jut into what s technically the
front yard of the Holmberg property. and so the Holmberg property wIno longer cut off
the front of the Nygaard property. I
Leslie moved, seconded by Mason to recommend to Council approval ofl the
subdivision/combination subject to the Planner's recommendations: I
1. The applicants must provide up-to-date (within 30 days) title of in ions for their
respective lots. I
2. The applicants must provide drainage and utility easements 10 ffet on each side of
each side and rear lot line, except for the southerly 175 feet f Mr. Holmberg's
easterly lot line.
3. The above-mentioned items must be completed within 30 days of tte Council's approval
of the request.
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they must record it within 30 days. I
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MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Mayor Haugen was present and expressed her gratitude to the
hard work.
ltEPORTS
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Council Liaison Stover announced that the Council has appointed a n~ Planning
Commissioner. His name is Dave Pitney, he lives in the Near Mountailn development and has
an educational background in urban planning. I
ADJOURNMENT
Benson moved, seconded by Spellman to adj ourn the meeting at 9 :48 P .IM. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted:
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
. TUESDAY, 5 SEPTEMBER 1989
CALL TO ORDER
Acting-Chair Benson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Acting-Chair Benson; Commissioners Mason, Bongaards, anq Pitney;
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Asst. IHelgesen.
Absen t :
Chair Schultz; Commissioners Leslie and Spellman (all ~cused).
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Mason moved, seconded by Bongaards to approve the minutes of 15 Aug~st 1989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously. I
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - FENCE HEIGHT VARIANCE
Robert Whelan - 5910 Cathcart Drive
Mr. Whelan recently replaced an 80 foot portion of fence in his frolt yard area without a
permit. The fence is six feet high and extends beyond the front of his house to the
. street r.o.w., and the Ordinance restricts fence height to four fee within front yards.
He is requesting a variance to maintain the height at six feet, as as the height of the
previous fence he replaced. ,
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Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:33 P.M.
Mr. Whelan explained that the new fence is in the identical
same post holes were even used. The previous fence existed for 21
neighbor to the south, whose house faces Afton Road could put a six
rear of his house and its location would be the same of Whelan's fe
clarified that the neighbor's lot has the same frontage as Whelan's
in spite of the fact that he chose to orient the house toward Afton
lot would be subject to the same zoning restrictions as Whelan's.
of the previous, the
ears. He said his
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Mrs. Whelan said the following hardships exist: their bedroom windiws face south,
picking up headlight glare from the street, and the fence screens t at out. The fence
had originally been placed due to a neighborhood dispute. Tearing t down would be an
economic hardship.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 7:40 P.M. I
Mason asked what is the difference between repair and replacement? t'Nielsen said that
boards within sections may be replaced in order to repair, but enti e sections between
posts being replaced would have to comply with zoning regulations. Posts must remain
intact.
. Bongaards asked if any plantings exist which would lend privacy and! screening to the
yard. Mrs. Whelan said the few that exist are old and dying.
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-Mason suggested that the fence height regulation ahould begin at the face of the bouse.
rather that 50% the depth of the structure. Nielsen said that is ce tainly something
that is worthy of discussion during the Ordinance study sessions. in luding the
possibility of the change beginning at the building setback.
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Mason moved. seconded by Bongaards to table decision on this item fO~ 45 to 60 days
maximum to allow time for the Planning Commission to study the Zonin Ordinance and
consider amending the fence height regulations. Motion carried unanOmously.
7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE
Stanley and Delores Theis - 21055 Forest Drive
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Mr. and Mrs. Theis are requesting a setback variance in order to addl a porch and deck to
the southeast side of their home. The house does not meet current s~tback requirements
and is a nonconforming structure. The addition as proposed would re;uire a 28 foot
variance and would extend to within two feet of the r.o.w. of Wooden Place. The
Planner's recommendation is to locate the addition on the northwest ide of the house.
thereby minimizing the variance to three feet. I
Mr. Theis said that building on the northwest side of the house is a! problem due to the
fact that the only access to a newer portion of their basement is located in that area.
as well as the fact that drainage flows through that area. I
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:10 P.M. J
~ublic portion of the public hearing closed at 8:10 P.M. without co ,ent.
Bongaards moved to recommend to Council that the 28-foot setback var~ance as requested be
denied. but that the three foot setback variance along the northwest side of the house as
recommended in the Planner's report dated 30 August 1989 be approved if the applicants so
desire. Mason seconded for discussion.
Mason said that if the basement access were relocated the variance c+uld be greatly
minimized and encouraged the Theis' to work with an architect to achfeve same.
Motion carried unanimously.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 11 September 1989.
8:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SHORELAND ALTERATION VARIANCE
R.D. Nelson - 5230 Howards Point Road
Mr. J.D. MacRae. architect for Mr. Nelson. was present to explain th
shoreland alteration variance. He said that the home recently const
walkout facing west and due to the topography near the shoreline of
view of the lake as well as drainage to the lake is obstructed by th
topography. He said that there is a low area north of the proposed
location does not accommodate the view or drainage plan they would 1
wish to relocate the low area on the site. He cited drainage obstru
He also added that the cut in the topography necessary to create the
.eet rather than the 7.5 feet noted in the Planner's report. Planne
that 5.5 feet is correct.
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cted was built as a
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Bongaards moved. seconded by Mason to recommend to Council that thel'shore1and alteration
variance be denied. Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote - ,4 ayes.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 11 September 1989.
8:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - MANOR PARK TEMPCRARY WARMING HOUSE
City of Shorewood - N.E. quadrant of Manor Rd. and Suburban Dr. (Mar or Park)
The Shorewood Park Commission would like to locate a temporary warm~ng house at Manor
Park for three months out of the year (winter season). They proposE to rent an 8' x 32'
mobile building. They intend to monitor use of the temporary shelt r to determine if a
permanent building is warranted for this park. Planner Nielsen sail that precedent
setting is a concern. that this proposal should be viewed the same ~ private
development. He said he does not have detailed analysis at this tile as to how the
facility complies with building code for egress and safety requiremEnts.
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One area resident said that a woman who lives across from the parkJo1d her that she
believes the park would get used a lot more if a shelter were inst led.
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~ Bob Boyer. Suburban Drive. said he agrees.. The Park needs shelter r' d lighting. and
asked if it would be staffed during the skating season.
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Gordon Lindstrom. Park Commissioner. said lighting could be placed tn one side of the
building to light the skating pond. and the shelter would be staffer.
Bob Gagne. Council Liaison to Park Commission. noted that the Park;ommission has
reviewed this proposal extensively. A lot of work and thought has )een put into this
project.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:40 P.M.
Gordy Christianson. Park Commissioner. said many young children in he area need this
sh~lter. The kids now have to sit in snow banks to change their sk tes in the winter.
Benson read aloud a letter submitted by Thomas and Charlotte Smith. 20540 Manor Road. who
oppose any structure being placed in Manor Park.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:51 P.M.
Mason said she is disappointed that the Park COlllmission didn't purs~. e construction of a
permanent structure two years ago. Mr. Lindstrom said the City cou dn't afford it at
that time. Using a temporary shelter will establish the extent of he need for a
permanent. more expensive shelter in this Park. Mason said if ther is any need at all.
a more attractive structure should be designed. I
Mason moved to recommend to Council that the C.U.P. request be denitd. Motion died for
~ lack of a second.
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one (1) winter season during
Benson to recommend to Council approva
which time the amount of use be monito
the C.U.P. for
Benson commented that he feels the Park Commission is spending a 10 of money that would
be better spent toward a better, permanent building.
Motion carried - 2 ayes (Bongaards, Benson) - 1 nay (Mason) - 1 abs (Pitney).
This item will be on the Council agenda of 11 September 1989.
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Benson moved, seconded by Bongaards. to recommend that the Planning Jnd Park Commissions
and City Council hold a study session to determine a means of addre~sing park shelter
buildings, due to the strong need by the community for shelters at f. 1 parks. Motion
carried unanimously.
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8:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - LOT AREA VARIANCE
James Miller - 5860 Hillendale Road
Mr. Miller is requesting a lot area variance to build a single-fami y dwelling on this
property located in the R-1A zoning district. The lot contains 25, 00 square feet of
area which is substandard for the R-1A district. The variance is r quired because the
lot does not contain at least 70 percent of the minimum required. he variance required
amounts to 2500 square feet.
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Will Johnson, owner of adjacent lot, said he has concern about fill,'that was placed on
this lot two years ago which apparently was contaminated from the g s station site it
came from. He is also concerned about which direction the drainage will flow off of the
lot.
Will Kahl, owner of adjacent lot, said he supports the variance, alhough he also has
concerns about contaminated soil.
Planner Nielsen said that due to any fill having been placed on the lot, the soil will be
subject to testing and, if contaminated, will be subject to removal. The lot being lower
than the street, the drainage will be subject to the City Engineer' approval.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 9:24 P.M.
Pitney asked if the driveway access is a concern due to the easement! access on this lot.
Nielsen said it may be a concern, the driveway plan will be require4 for the building
permit application. I
Mason moved, seconded by Pitney to recommend to Council approval of I'the lot area
variance. Motion carried unanimously.
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SIMPLE SUBDIVISION/LOT COMBINATION
Jim Deanovic - 28005. 28015 and 28025 Boulder Bridge Drive
Mr. Deanovic would like to divide Lot 5. Block 4 of Boulder Bridge
the resulting halves with adjacent Lots 4 and 6. The result is cre
out of three existing lots for the purpose of more building space.
will exceed all zoning and subdivision requirements.
ddition and combine
ting two larger lots
The resulting lots
Mason moved. seconded by Bongaards to recommend to Council approval of the
subdivision/combination subject to the Planner's recommendations:
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The applicant must record the division/combination within 30
the Council resolution approving the request.
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Within 30 days of Council approval the applicant must submit
proposed change in lot lines and new legal descriptions.
Motion carried unanimously.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 11 September 1989.
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Mr. Deanovic said that he has a C.U.P. request coming up on the
. agenda. Nielsen explained the conditions which must be met for
REPORTS
Council Liaison Stover reported on the Council's actions regarding
Commission's recommendation of their last meeting.
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Bongaards moved. seconded by Benson to adjourn the meeting at 9:45
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted.
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Planning Assistant
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 12 SEPTEMBER 1989
MINNEW HTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
26350 S ITHTOWN ROAD
7:30 P. .
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:40 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chair Schultz; Commissioners Leslie, Mason, Bongaards,
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning Assi
Administrator Whittaker; Engineers Norton and Morast,
Finance Director Rolek.
Pitney and Benson;
t. Helgesen.
ttorney Froberg;
Absent:
Commissioner Spellman (excused).
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - WATERFORD 3RD PHASE P.U.D. - DEVELOPMEN
Sherman-Boosalis Interests, Inc. - 20095 State Highway 7
STAGE APPROVAL
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Chair Schultz acknowledged the attendance of City Council members ~d explained that they
were present to observe and hear public comment first hand. I
George Sherman of Sherman-Boosalis Interests, Inc. explained his p oposal. He said
Schoell and Madsen, Inc. is the project engineer, and Mr. Jens Bec the architect of the
residential portion.
In 1984-85 the original PUD proposal included a 3rd (final) phase f development to be
completed at a later date. The final phase consisted of multi-fam"ly dwellings and
commercial use, subject to Highway 7 access. He said that the pro osal tonight meets or
exceeds the requirements of that PUD approval. He pointed out key outlots and explained
their purposes (buffer area and road alignment). This proposal co tains the same
property size as the original. The multi-family dwellings would co sist of twin-homes
valued from $225,000 and up and represents less than half the dens"ty of the original
proposal. I
The commercial portion is proposed to consist of a convenience gas and grocery store
designed with residential features; 22,000 square foot retail cent r (dry cleaning,
convenience stores, professional users); a one-story drive-up bank facility; and a day
care center.
Mr. Sherman stated that the proposed intersection meets MNDOT guid lines.
Brad Nielsen, City Planner, reviewed his staff reported in regard to
land use issues, design, and park dedication. He said that the or"ginal plan, given
concept approval in 1984, contained 144 multiple-family units on a proximately 22 acres
of land with low-intensity commercial development along Highway 7. Due to the lack of
detail presented at the time of the original proposal, the City Co ncil had agreed to
hold another public hearing when development stage plans were sub "tted.
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Planner Nielsen said that the Design Framework Manual originally ap~roved has been
followed with certain revisions, such as parking/loading areas for fommercial, and
increased landscaping. He said park dedication fees will be the safe as originally
required, $78,500, despite the reduced density.
Robert Morast of O.S.M. Engineering reviewed his report which evalu tes traffic
circulation and volume. In his report, Mr. Morast states that decr ases in proposed
housing units, as well as upgrade of the Vine Hill intersection by OT have been taken
into consideration. His evaluation determines that the Vine Hill i tersection will not
operate at an acceptable level of service once the area is fully de eloped. The proposed
level of development was originally forecasted to generate 8,265 tr"ps per day. Despite
some reduction in density which has occurred there needs to be a co lector street to
accommodate these traffic volumes. Steep grades, restricted right- f-way and the number
of driveways directly onto Vine Hill Road prohibits reconstruction 0 State Aid Collector
Road Standards. A collector road through the area was planned to c nnect Vine Hill Road
with T.H.7 at Old Market Road. Mr. Morast said his traffic forecas ing was based on Met
Council socioeconomic data.
Mr. Morast's report also provided response to written concerns subm"tted by the Waterford
and Covington Vine Ridge Homeowner's Associations. He stated that rn regard to the
concern about Old Market Road being used as a short cut from T.H.7 0 the Crosstown
extension, County and State statistics do not forecast this to be a problem. Most
traffic currently using Hwy 101 does not have a westerly destinatio~.
. Jim Norton, City Engineer, O.S.M. Engineering, provided preliminary review of grading,
drainage, erosion control, storm sewer, residential street layout, anitary sewer and
watermain plans. He said the grading, drainage and erosion control plans will also be
subject to Minnehaha Creek Watershed District review and approval. MNDOT has reviewed
the preliminary layout of the streets, service road and the new int rsection of Old
Market Road and T.H.7. They have approved these preliminary plans. All plans will be
subject to final review and approval.
Glenn Froberg, City Attorney, addressed the City's obligation to th~ development, and the
question of notifiying buyers of future plans. !
In his report to Council dated August 25, 1989, Mr. Froberg states
City's orig~nal approval of the concept plan showing the intersecti
execution of the Development Agreement specifying the intersection,
the City has entered into a legally binding contract with the Devel
of an intersection at Old Market Road and Highway 7.11
He also states that a memorandum to Development Agreement was inCl~'ed as an attachment
to the City's Resolution #29-85 approving the first final plat of terford, and was
recorded in the office of the County Recorder on September 24, 1985. Minnesota Title
Company has informed him that the existence of a recorded developm t agreement is
normally brought to the attention of the lot purchaser. I
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it is my opinion that
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Larry Whittaker, City Administrator, addressed the various optionS4vailable for
financing the intersection construction. He said the developer wo ld prefer to use Tax
Increment Financing (TIF). Alternatives include MNDOT participati ; assessment; State
Aid and General Fund. He said the best option appears to be TIF, . wever, no decision
has yet been reached regarding the form of financing. '
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Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:42 P.M. I
Jay Hare, Waterford resident, representing the Waterford Homewownet's Association,
Covington Vine Ridge, and Sweetwater Additions, said he, six other I residents, and their
attorney will comment on the development aspects of Waterford 3rd t,hase as well as the
intersection.
Mr. Hare said that the proposed gas station is
residential area due to potential ground water
lighting and signage.
not compatible with I the adjacent
pollution, increase~ traffic, noise,
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He said in regard to the proposed intersection and collector statu!' of Old Market Road,
the residents don't want it. They would prefer a compromise desig , of which he
presented an illustration, showing Old Market Road intersecting wi h the service road
only, with no direct access to the Highway. He said the residents I feel the proposed
intersection is unnecessary in spite of the traffic study figures. Additional stop
lights on Highway 7 are undesirable and unnecessary. The spacing ~f the stop lights
between Old Market Road and the Vine Hill intersection is unacceptfble. 97% of area
residents are opposed to the proposed intersection (207 signatures I representing
Waterford, Covington Vine Ridge and Sweetwater Additions). ,
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Gary Gandrud of Faegre and Benson law firm, representing waterfordtHomeowner'SASSOC.,
said he questions the obligation of the City to the development. he memorandum
referenced in title opinions is difficult to understand. The Carr dor Study does not
recommend this intersection. He would like to see a detailed cost study of the proposal.
David Dean, 5690 Old Market Road, asked if the Comprehensive Plan tddresses the
intersection? Did the residents have knowledge of the proposed in ersection? He said
that two out of four title opinions made no mention of the develoPfent agreement, and he
was informed by the former City Administrator that Old Market Road would end at the
existing service road, not a highway intersection. !
He referenced that the staff report stated that the Comprehensive ~lan suggests that a
collector stre e,t be designated (relieving Vine Hill Road) to go th~U9h lIundeveloped land
to the westll. That land is now developed and he urged the City to listen to the
residents who live on that land, and not feel they must ridgedly a ere to previously
approved plans. .
Stuart Finney, 19710 Chartwell Hill, agreed that the title opinion~ do not tell about the
intersection development. He said the residents don't feel trappe~ in their neighborhood
or feel any need for further access out. The traffic count would probably exceed 15,000
cars per day if the intersection goes through. '
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Harold Ness, Covington Vine Ridge, said that if TIF doesn't work, ~hen general property
taxes will pay for this development. He questioned the market fori commercial development
of this property and noted that taxes will pay for it if the marke~ fails. He said the
residents do not want the intersection and it will place a burden pn those same
residents. i
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Christine Rice, Chartwell Hill, is concerned about the safety of cltildren using
Silverwood Park due to the danger imposed by the intersection and ~ncreased traffic. She
said that she was not told of the proposed intersection by either per realtor or builder.
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Bob Snyder, Waterford, stated that the original purpose of Old Mar
The residents have been misinformed by the developers. The establ
need the City's support. He suggested that the City let an arbitr
obligation the City has to the developer. He also suggested that
of financing the development up for referendum vote. He said comp
the proposed insection include the Vine Hill intersection; an on/o
Old Market Road and separate it from the intersection.
et Road has been met.
shed neighborhoods
tor decide what
he City put the means
omise alternatives to
f ramp; or dead-end
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Dennis Clark, 20880 Radisson Road, representing Radisson Road area~residents, said that
Radisson Road cannot handle any more traffic. The 1985 meetings d scussed all the
intersections along Highway 7 corridor and it was determined that any residents would
benefit by the proposed intersection. I
Tad Shaw 5580 Shore Road, said that he was on the City Council in 1984-85 when the '
original proposal was made. The solution to the traffic density ptesented at that time
was determined to be the intersection. The plans for the area aretthe result of numerous
and lengthy discussions between the City and developer. He doesn' feel that Radisson
Road should take on the traffic being generated by the development in the southeast area.
Larry Buesgen, 20090 Excelsior Blvd., said that the residents on t~e north side of
Highway 7 were opposed to the development in 1984-85. Drainage is I carried under the
Highway via culvert and drains onto a portion of his property knowt as Footprint Lake.
He is concerned about pollutants from the proposed gas station flo ing into that drainage
system.
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Dennis Martin, 20185 Excelsior Blvd., said that he doesn't think tfe Highway 7 Corridor
meeting mentioned the proposed intersection. If the intersection s built, backup from
it will be sitting on an uphill grade which will be hazardous in t e winter.
Barbara Martin, 20185 Excelsior Blvd., is concerned about the nois, which would be
generated from traffic at the intersection. She also opposes a ga* station at that site.
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Betty Abelson, 19915 Muirfield Circle, was told that Old Market Rot'd is a residential
street and only for area residents. She doesn't think current res dents of the area
would have bought into it if they knew about the proposed developmfnt and resultant
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Simon Oosterman, 19365 waterford Place, said he bought his propertt on the promise that
there would be an intersection which would relieve the Vine Hill R?ad traffic. He said
he supports the development of the intersection. '
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Todd Hendries, 20050 Excelsior Blvd., is concerned about Townline oad traffic impacting
the north side of Highway 7 if access is extended to the north sid of the highway. He
also questioned benefit of the commercial development and stated c ncern that commercial
development will spread over to the north side.
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Les Anderson, 5385 Shady Hills Circle, said he agrees with Tad Shaw~ He said he doesn't
blame local residents for being concerned about traffic counts, how ver, Shady Hills
residents do not want the traffic through their neighborhood any mo e than the new
residents want it through theirs. I
Gary Swanson, 19535 Vine Ridge Road, said he was not told by anyone I about future
development in the area and wouldn't have moved there if they had tfld him. He said
Radisson Road residents will see more traffic through their neighbofhood if the slip
is closed due to the intersection. I
Carol Buesgen, 20090 Excelsior Blvd., opposes commercial developmen. Feels that the
project could be developed strictly as residential.
the
ramp
Don Berglund, 19895 Waterford Place, said that in the Spring of 198 City staff told him
of future access to the Highway of an undefined form. He is concer ed about the safety
of neighborhood children. I
the area where t~e Vine Hill
about there beint a buffer between it
Tom Heimer, 5215 Shady Lane, his house is close to
intersection upgrading will occur and is concerned
and his house.
Garrett Hegel, 19685 Waterford Place, wondered if taxes generated b
would be able to benefit the school system and general fund if fina
. asked if the city is prepared to answer all the concerns before mak
Steven Dzurak, 19570 Vine Ridge Road, urged the City to reject the
making Old Market Road and Covington Road collector streets will fo
Highway 7 and the Crosstown extension. He suggested that the inter
be built later rather than making an irreversible mistake now. He
trapped in their neighborhoods by making their streets collector st
Highway 7.
the development
cing is byTIF, .and
ng its decision.
ntersection. He said
a short cut between
ection could always
aid children will be
eets as busy as
Steve Michals, 19890 Chartwell Hill, concerned about TIF jeopardiz ng taxes.
district and County will not benefit during the TIF term.
The school
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Jim Slaughter, 5570 Old Market Road, said he would not have bought liS lot in Waterford
if he had known about the traffic potential. His title search didn t occur until after
he had made a purchase commitment on the lot.
Walter Jones, 5520 Covington Road, said that traffic problems need to be corrected at the
highway level, not routed into another residential area.
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Jerry Steiner, Attorney for Trivesco,said that the City is dealingtWith a very
responsible and capable developer who delivered to the City per agr ements down to the
letter. He asked the City to do the same in return. He noted that the City staff is
recommending in favor of the intersection. The City made a specifi commitment to the
developer per the development agreement in 1985. I
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.RandY Travalia, Robert Mason Homes (one~third of Trivesco partnersh~p), said that the
focus during the original proposal was water and the intersection. [Purchase agreements
on lots in Waterford contain riders stating that future developmentiof multi-family
dwellings and commercial development was approved, and sales brochu es illustrated the
intersection. He said Trivesco would like the City to honor its ag eement with the
developer.
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Public portion of the public hearing closed at 10:45 P.M.
Al Rolek, Finance Director, explained that Tax Increment Financing (TIF) is a vehicle of
financing where current property value is established and frozen. The taxation on any
increased value of the property resulting from development is capt red to retire the debt
issued to make the improvements on the property. He said taxes cu rently being collected
on the property will continue to benefit the general fund. Financ.ng has not yet been
decided for the project, and available options require more invest.gation.
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Bob Morast, O.S.M. Engineering, said the Highway 7 Corridor Study 4id not specifically
recommend this proposed intersection, but suggested the need for a~ intersection within
this vicinity. Based upon overall funding and the possibility of he construction of the
intersection, MNDOT determined that this intersection was appropri te and compatible with
the Corridor Study results. Also, he said that the traffic counts used by residents have
been under-estimated. Actual figures are based on 10 trips per da~ per household.
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Glenn Froberg, City Attorney, said that the purpose of a public he4ring is to present
information and hear areas of concern to determine if those areas 1f concern can be
resolved between the residents and the City within the framework o~ those contracts and
agreements that are already in place between the parties. I
Benson moved, seconded by Mason to continue discussion of waterfor4 3rd Phase to
26 September 1989 at 7:30 P.M. at the Minnewashta Elementary SChoo~ gymnasium. Motion
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those present that the public portion of the publ~c hearing was closed,
comment may be submitted between now and next Tue~day, 19 September, and
and considered by the Planning Commission. I
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Benson moved, seconded by Leslie to adjourn the meeting at 10:59 PiM. Motion carried
unanimously.
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however, written
will be received
Respectfully submitted,
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
~ TUESDAY, 3 OCTOBER 1989
I COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7: 30 P. M.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair SChultz called the meeting to order at 7:31 P.M.
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Bongaards, Spellman,
Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Planning
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Absent: Commissioners Leslie and Pitney (both excused).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Bongaards moved, seconded by Mason to approve the minutes of 5 sep~ember 1989 as
written. Motion carried unanimously.
Mason moved, seconded by Bongaards to approve the minutes of 12 seLtember 1989 as
written. Motion carried unanimously. f
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7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - HEIGHTS OF ST. ALBANS BAY
Gene Erickson - Southeast quadrant of st. Albans Bay Road and Mano Road
Planner Nielsen showed the plat which was presented in August for pproval and
subsequently recommended for denial by the Planning Commission. T e applicant withdrew
his request prior to any decision being made by the Council, and s mitted a new
application for rezoning and preliminary plat (second revision) to the Planning
Commission. However, the applicant brought to the meeting a third revision of the plat
which contained a street which meets the 6% grade and similar in d sign as originally
recommended by the City Engineer. The applicant requested that th Commission base their
recommendation on this third revision as presented. Nielsen said hat the rezoning to
R-1B would be appropriate based on the Comprehensive Plan, and the plat proposed meets or
exceeds the requirements of the R-1B zoning district.
Rick Sathre, project Engineer, said that they had resisted this
in hopes of saving mature trees on the site.
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Public portion of the public hearing opened at 7:47 P.M.
Walter Bean, 5285 st. Albans Bay Rd., asked if proposed Lots
which are planned to access st. Albans Bay Road. Mr. Sathre
is opposed to the rezoning because he feels the Comp Plan is
larger lots surrounding the site.
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said es. Mr. Bean said he
flawe - and that there are
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Mike COllins., 5215 st. Albans Bay Rd., reminded the Commission th~ st. Albans Bay Road
is a very fast-travelled road. He said he would like more time tOj review the third
revision plat, the pond shown on it is new. I
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Rick Sathre said the pond is a depressed area of land which would bollect run-off in
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Public portion of the public hearing cloSE:ld at 7:56 P.M.
Schultz asked hat the angle of the proposed street is at its acce s point to st. Albans
Bay Road. Nie sen said there would be room for one car at a perpe dicular angle to st.
Albans Bay Roa , any subsequent cars would stack at an angle aroun the curve.
Schultz asked
report dated 2
recommended fo
r. Erickson if he agreed with the Planner's recomme dations stated in his
September 1989. Mr. Erickson said yes he did, exc pt that the garage
removal will now comply with the setbacks on the t ird revision plat.
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Spellman asked what will happen to storm water as it runs down thel steep grade toward
Manor Road. M. Sathre said he will work with the City Engineer ard provide detailed
plans for eros'on control on the final plat. :
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Schultz asked r. Erickson if he is planning to comply with the lo~ line adjustments as
recommended by the Planner. Mr. Erickson said they are considerinG it.
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Spellman moved, seconded by Mason to recommend to Council approval I of the rezoning to
R-1B and the p eliminary plat (third revision), subject to the Plafner,s recommendations
including that the lot lines for Lots 5 - 8 be made more perpendic lar with st. Albans
Bay Road and t at the City Engineer consider requiring storm sewer for drainage/erosion
control on the grade toward Manor Road. Motion carried unanimousl by roll call vote - 5
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7:45 P.M. PUBL C HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT I
Minnesota Cell lar Telephone Company - 5500 Old Market Road I
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bile Telephone Company is requesting approval of a bonditional use permit
o construct a 12' x 28' equipment shelter, enclosedlby security fencing
theast area water tower, and to place six antennaepn the tower itself.
plan shows six-foot evergreen trees around thefenFe and building to
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epresenting Cellular One, said the company has 26 er. isting sites. He
phs of their standard type shelters and antennae. e said the signal type
have never had a complaint of signal interference.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:36 P.M. I
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:36 P.M. without cfmment.
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Mason asked if the fence is absolutely necessary. Mr. Rogers sai
contain a lot of expensive equipment. Schultz said he objects to
believes additional landscaping is necessary. He suggested that t
peaked roof and cedar shakes, and that the fence and building be c
year-round evergreen landscape. Benson said he would recommend a
shingles, but require higher evergreen trees so that it is complet
This item will be on the Council agenda of 9 October 1989.
Cellular One M
to allow them
next to the so
Their lands cap
screen them fr
Bryan Rogers,
showed photogr
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the shelter will
hain link fencing and
e building have a
mpletely surrounded by
ower roof with regular
ly hidden from view.
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Benson moved, seconded by Spellman to recommend to Council approvaR of the C.U.P. subject
to the Planner's recommendations. Motion carried unanimously by Rfv - 5 ayes.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 9 October 1989.
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8:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE VARIANCE TO EXPAND A N NCONFORMING USE
Herbert Maso~. - 27010 Edgewood Road I
Last month i was discovered that a 12' x 12' gazebo was being bU~' t on this property
without a bu Olding permit. In making application to comply with. rmit requirements, it
was further iscovered that the gazebo in its current location doe. not meet the side
yard setback, nor the does property conform with the single-famil~ zoning district
r. equirements~ecause it contains two dwelling units. Mr. Mason iSr' requesting a setback
variance to e side yard setback. and a variance to expand a nonc nforming use due to
the nonconfo ity of his property use.
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Schultz acknowledged letters of support submitted by neighbors whiph were included in the
Planner's report.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 9:01 P.M.
Mr. Mason said he feels 17 feet is an adequate setback from the si~e yard (lake shore
side yard setback requires 20 feet on that side). He said thehO*' es on the lot were
built as they are before he bought the property. He said he has ded more land to his
property in the recent past in an attempt to make it more conformi g. Schultz said the
size of the lot is not the problem here, it is the number of dwel Ong units that is
creating the nonconforming use, as well as their location. i
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Motion carri~d unanimously by roll
Spellman moved, seconded by Bongaards to recommend to
variance and variance to expand a nonconforming use.
call vote - 5 ayes.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 9 October 1989.
Mr. Christian said he is concerned about the potential use of the
easements being required by the City in conjunction with this div'
along the north side lot line. He said he has several trees alon
wants to protect from utility companies. Planner Nielsen said the
unlikely to need use of that eas~ment, and the easement along tha
specifically as "drainage and 'p\1lblic' utility" easement to proho
semi-public utilities (phone, el$ctric, gas, etc.).
rainag$/utility
ion which would run
that lot line which he
City is highly
line could be worded
it use by the
Spellman moved, seconded by Bong~ards to recommend approval of the!
subdivision/combination subject to the Planner's recommendations:
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1. The applicant must submit up-to-date (within 30 days) title op~nions for her lot and
the Brentridge lot. :
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The applicant must provide drainage and utility easements 10 fret along .the southerly
boundary of her existing parcel and lCl feet along the northerl boundary of the newly
configured parcel.
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These items must be submitted to the City within 30 days of ti Council's approval of
the divifion.
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vacationiof the existing easement will be contingent upon the ~PPlicant providing the
easementt described in 2. above. '
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Once the I applicant has received the Council resolution apprOvi~9
divisionYcombination she must record it within 30 days.
required.
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Motion carri$d unanimously.
This item will appear on the Council agenda of 9 October 1989.
STUDY SESSION
Fence height requirements.
This item was deferred to the 7 NOV~. er Planning Commission meetlrg. PlannerNielsen
would like to make a slide presenta~ion of examples of fences in ~her communities. A
public hearing for Ordinance amendm~nt consideration will be schedpled.
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Schultz complimented the City on th~. work done on the trail. sYste~! and said he hopes
snowmobiles and horses can be limit~d or banned from its use beca e of the destruction
they incur. He sai~ some form of p~eservation system needs to be eveloped.
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stover reminded the Commission that!a meeting date needs to be det~rmined for the Park
and Planning Commissions to meet anq! discuss the park shelter iSs*. Benson suggested
discussing schedul after the Watetford meetings are over. I
secon~ by Eongaards 10 adjourn the meeting at
ADJOURNMENT
Mason.moved,
unanimously.
10: 121 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to iorder at 7:35 P.M.
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Present:
Ch~ir Schultz; Commissi~ners Benson; Leslie
CoU!ncil Liaison Stover; IPlanner Nielsen; PI
Adrr\inistrator Whittaker;1 Engineers Norton a
Finance Director Rolek. I
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APPROVAL OF MINuTES
MINNEWASHTA ELEM SCHOOL
26350 SMITHTOWN ROAD
7:30 P.M.
Spellman; Bongaards; Pitney;
nning Asst. Helgesen;
d Morast; ttorney Froberg;
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Leslie moved, s:econded by Bongaards !to approve the minu es of 3
Motion carried unanimously.
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WATERFORD 3RD ~HASE P. U . D. - DEVELO MENT
Sherman-Boosal~s Interests, Inc. - ~0095
STAGE APPROVAL
State Highway
FROM 12 SEPTEMBER 1989
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Chair Schultz ~eminded those presen~ that the public po
been closed at Ithe meeting of 12 se~tember, and the pu
the hearing is ifor Planning Commiss~on discussion. He
subject areas as outlined in the Pl~nner's Report dated
are land use; sitreets and traffic c~rculation; general
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Planner Nielsen said there are two ~rimary land use iss es: the
store proposal;' and the design of tli-e commercial strip. He said t
whether these ~ssues reflect the in~ent of the original concept ap
regarding the dommercial developmen~ is whether parking should be
or buildings c~oser to the highway ~ith the parking beh nd them.
closer to the ~ighway then more lan~scaping should be a ded to buf
north side of the highway. I ~
He said a thir~... issue is the reduct. ~o n in the residenti 1 units pr posed. The original
concept plan proposed 144 units. T~ecurrent plan pro ses 54 res'dential units.
However, the d~veloper will still pay the full amount of assessmen s and park dedication
fees based on the original figures. I 1
Leslie said sh~ is surprised to see la gas station propo al in ligh of the original intent
to keep the co~ercial portion low-~ntensity. Spellman agreed tha a gas station is not
low-intensity aind such a use would 1raw non-local traff c to the s'te.
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uses in 1984. IRe said he feels the Igas station/conveni
2-3 mile area neighborhood. It can~be designed to refl
s~rrounding ne~.g~r~ood. He has t ree int:reste~ tena
dJ..scuss the res!trJ..ctJ..ons necessary 0 make J..t strJ..ctly
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ose of thi continued portion of
aid they w'll discuss the four
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eighborhoo
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rovals. One concern
loser to the highway,
f parking is placed
er the view from the
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acter of the
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Leslie asked how much interest they Ihave had in the retail space. ," Mr. Sherman said about
60% so far - thi..ree. inquiries on the day care operation ( letters Of... intent), and they have
a letter of in-qent for the back fac~lity. G.T. Mork (developer's ealtor), said that
there is ident~fied interest on about 15,000 square feet of the re ail space so far, and
approximately a,OOO square feet WOU~d he signed today if term. s wer, nailed down.
Schultz referr~d to problems with ttie most recent gas station buil in Shorewood, and
said typical c~ncerns .are usually l~ghtingand signage. Sherman s id that a corporate
user would be ~etter than an indiviqual owner or franchise with l' ited finances. He
further stated ithat gas stations ca~ fit in with residential commu ities if controlled in
regard to arch~tecture, lighting, s~gnage and hours of operation. He said the gas
station allows ithem to build lower 4ensity in the residential port"on of their proposal.
Les.l ie question,.,..ed the amount of gree..,....,.n space bei. n g proposed as. view..I.....d from the highway.
Sherman explai~ed the commercial layout and pointed out that no va. iances to setbacks are
being requeste~. He said that they iare exceeding the parking requ'rements and also
allowing for f~ture expansion of Highway 7. They are proposing de per setbacks for the
parking area w~th a berm between th4 service road and the highway. I
Pitney asked hgw many gas pumps are iproposed. Sherman said two p
pumps per isla~d.
islands with two
Mr. Sherman saiJd the twinhomes will ihave the capacity for 2-1/2 to 31 stall garages and
excess off-str~et parking space. H~ said the Homeowner's covenant and restrictions can
limit addition~l storage space per init, including outdoor stora.gel...
Spellman moved ito recommend to Counqil approval of the land use Port'ion of the P. U . D. as
proposed. Motion died for lack of ~ second. I
Leslie moved, sieconded by Spellman ~o recommend to Council approvan,. bf the land use
portion of the IP.U.D. excluding the !gas station. r
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Benson said ho~rs of operation should be limited to 7:00 A.M. to 1f:OO
the commercial operations. Signs s~ould be no higher than buildin s.
Schultz said t~ere need to be restrictions on accessory buildings nd
boats, etc. fo~ the residential are~. 1
P.M. for any of
outdoor storage of
Leslie amended
Motion carried
Iher motion to includ~ above conditions.
~nanimously by roll dall vote - 6 ayes.
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Planner Nielseri said the Police Chi~f and Fire Marshall were both sked to render their
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Rick Young, S.~.M.P.S.D. Chief, comn\ented that he is concerned abo t, additional traffic
being added to iCovington and Radissqn Roads. Emergency service wi 11 be slowed somewhat
using any of t~e alternatives. He ~elt the original design was we 1 thought out and
works better than any of the alternatives.
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Joe Wallin, Fi~e Marshall, prefers the proposed intersection. It
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be concerned ~out response time wi~h the alternative plans - even
"tremendous" an\ount of time to lose~
s safer to go through
uverability. He would
three minutes is a
Planner Nielse~ said MNDOT has plan~ to upgrade the intersections t Vine Hill and
Christmas Lake!Roads by 1992. The qity Council is withholding the"r consent of the Vine
Hill Road inte:t1section improvement *evision until Old Market Road "s decided. Bob Morast
of O.S.M. Engi*eers said the purpos~ for upgrading these intersect"ons is for safety, not
capacity. He said with the reductiqn in residential density for t e area taken into'
account, the updated traffic count ~igure is approximately 5,200 t ips per day. This
figure still r~quires the intersect~on and collector street for th area.
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to eliminate a~l slip ramps in the ~icinity if the intersection is developed. If the
intersection dqes not get built, th~re will probably be no changes
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Bongaards askeq if there is
Old Market Roa~ potential.
no traffic couqts available
any exi~ting street in Shorewood that
Morast ~aid Smithtown Road is a collec
for comparison.
ould compare to the
or street, but he has
Morast pointed lout that the state Cdrrnnissioner of Highways determi es speed limits for
all public str~ets. Cities may onl~ request speed studies by the tate. Nielsen said
that the speed !limit for Old Market 'Road would be posted at the st ndard for all
residential stteets - 30 M.P.H.
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Benson said he !has seen an increase in traffic coming from the eas
an extremely pqor route.
along Radisson Road,
Pitney asked hqw t~e intersection wquld be financed. Administrato Whittaker said that
financing is n9t n1~ally di~cussedlatthis phase of develo~ment,. owever, internal
improvements a:t1e t~~cally f~nanced !by developer. Extraord~nary , rovements or
improvements o~tsi~e the project carl be financed with T.r.F. Feas"ility studies must be
done first. Cqsts !are not known atlthis time, but the developer f els T.I.F. is the most
appropriate. ~f TJI.F. turns out tq be inadequate, alternative me hods such as special
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Spellman moved,! se~onded by Leslie to recorrnnend to Council of the street use
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Bongaards said!she!would like to se~ the intersection approval into financial
feasibility of Is am,.
Schultz explai~ed that he felt this lis such a difficult decision d e to all of its
complexities. iHe ~as received numertous letters from residents bot pro and con. The
current propos~l has been planned f~r a long time. He said traffi must be accepted as a
fact of life, dnd transportation af~ects more than just one neighb rhood within the
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Bongaards saidiherlheart and her hedd are in two different places n this issue. She
said she feels !badifor those who did buy their homes without previ us knowledge of the
plans for the ~rea~ !
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Spellman moved,1 se~onded by Bongaa,rqs to recommend to Council appr
design portion 'of the proposal. ~o~ion carried unanimously by rol
val of the general
call vote - 6 ayes.
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dedication fee~ as originally proBo~ed - $78,500. Motion carried nanimously by roll
call vote - 6 1yes. , !
These items wi~l be on the counci~ ~genda of 13 November 1989. Th t Council meeting is
planned to be ~eld at the Minnewash~a Elementary School.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None
REPORTS
Council Liaison Stover reported oq ~he action taken by the Council on Planning Commission
items from their meeting of 3 Octqb~r 1989.
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Pitney moved, ~econded by Bongaards ito adjourn the meeting at 9:43 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted:
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 7 NOVF;MBER 1989
COUNCI CHAMBERS
5755 C UNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
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Present: Ch~ir Schultz; commis~[ilners Bongaards, Spellman, Les ie, Pitney;
Cmtncil Liaison S-tovet; Planner Nielsen; Recording Se retary Mackey.
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Spellman moved, seconded by Bonga4~ds to approve the Minutes of 7 November 1989 as
written. Motion carried unanimouilt.
7:30 P.M. PUBLC HEARING - CONDIT O~AL USE PERMIT - SPECIAL HOME CCUPATION
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al~ow her to open a small barber s op within her home.
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Public portion !of the public hearin$ opened at 7:32 P.M.
Public portion of the public hearinf closed at 7:32 P.M. without
Spellman moved~ seconded by Bongaar1s, to grant the conditional u
recommendation by Schultz that perml't renewals be required annual
Motion carried unanimously.
This item will be on the Council ag nda of 20 November 1989.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz clalled the meeting ~o order at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Absent:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ms. Lindberg made a request to
This shop would consist of one
employee.
including the
7 : 40 P. M. PUBLltC HEARING - C. U . P . EXCEED 1000 S . FT. OF ACCES ORY SPACE
Scott Meyer - 28025 Boulder Bridge' ~rive
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Mr. Meyer requested a conditionalu~e permit to allow him to exce d 1000 square feet of
accessory spac~. Due to the size of his home, he has purchased h If of the lot to the
south of his home. This permit wi~i allow Mr. Meyer to build a 1 I X 16' storage room
which is not accessible from the hoise. The accessory space brin s the total to 1150
square feet.
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Planning Commission Meeting
7 November 1989
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Public portion of the public hearin1 opened at 7:40 P.M.
Mr. Meyer's builder commented on thJ fact that Eden Prairie had
they currently '."dO n..ot adhere to. ~an ner Nielsen felt that the
modification and proposed to increa e the threshold to a higher
will be compiled and an ordinanceendment will be drafted.
Public portion ,of the public hearinJ closed at 7:43 P.M.
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square feet in excess of 1000 squarr feet.
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7:50 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. T@ EXCEED 1000 S . FT. OF ACCES
Robert Weiss - 617$ Lake Virginia Dive
a similar ordinance which
c rrent Ordinance needs
1 el. Previous requests
ermit for accessory
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Weiss requested a conditional u~e permit to allow him to exce
accessory space. He would like to!'xpand his existing garage to
existing pool ~quipment building br ngs the total accessory space
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Public portion ,of the public hearin$ closed at 7:50 P.M. without
d 1000 square feet of
000 square feet. An
to 1155 square feet.
Planner Nielsen reported that this tequest was identical to the p
Spellman moved~ seconded by Bongaar~s, to grant the conditional u
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8:00 P.M. PUBLltC HEARING - SETBACK YARIANCE
Minnesota MinilStorage - 19545 Stat, Highway 7
Minnesota Mini-Stonage has requeste~ a setback variance which is
technicality. A recent sale of thelproperty showed that there wa
regarding the w...est ....boUndary line of I.. Parcel 2. This results in th
buildings on the facility not complting with the setback requirem
originally granted a l5 foot varian~e on the west side in exchang
additional setback :on' the east side~ If the legal description is
may be 16.5 feet closer to the lot ~ine than what was approved.
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argely considered a
an error in the survey
location of one of the
n~. The project was
for 15 feet of
correct, the building
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Public portion of the public hearin4 opened at 8:02 P.M.
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Carter DeLaittne, Att~rney for Minn$sota Mini-Storage, reported t at the property had
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Chair Schultz questioned the effect this had on adjoining propertO s. Planner Nielsen
said the property adjoining Minnesota Mini-Storage was public roa right-of-way and that
the building still had a 18.5 foot setback.
Spellman moved" seconded by Pitney to approve the setback varianc as requested.
Motion carried unanimously.
This item will be On the Council agenda of 20 November 1989.
~:10 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - SIMPLE SUBDIVISION AND LOT WIDTH VARI
Phyllis Lovrien - 21095 Edgewood Road
ith her home on it
ls 12.65 acres, a
sto split off a 40-,000
ould have 50 feet of
Ms. Phyllis Lovrien requested approval to separate a one acre lot
from the remai~ing 11.1 acres of her property. Her total lot tot
portion of which is classified as designated wetland. She
square foot lot along Edgewood Road. The rear undeveloped
frontage, which would be used as a future street access.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:10 P.M.
Frank Kelly, attorney for Ms. Lovrien, said that they would fully
conditions as stated in a letter from Planner Nielsen dated 1 Nov
the nine
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Dana Marcelius" owner of the adjacent lot to the east, said he was
made by Ms. Lovrien until one day prior to this public hearing.
his house was Located only 20 feet from the property line and did
run next to his home. He was extremely concerned about what this
property value .of his home.
unaware of the request
was concerned that
t want a street to
ould do to the
Kelly said that they would be willing to move the road over five f
walkway on the easterly parcel. The public road would give Mr. M
rear portion of his lot. Kelly said the reason that Mr. Lovrien
was so she coulq eventually sell her home and develop the propert
were being made lat this point in time.
Marceliu,s was d".,,'~ncerned about her future develoP,ment plans for th
that the curren size OF his lot was less than one acre. He was
road running n8 t to his house.
et and provide a
celius access to the
s making this request
,although no plans
He noted
about a
Ms. Lovrien sa~ the future development of the property would not
also noted that in the past Mr. Marcelius would have been glad to
the rear of his lot.
extensive. She
access road to
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Carol Regan, adjacent owner, commented about the future homes on t e property (which have
not been planns at this point) having lake access, which would be within 20 feet of her
home. Ms. Lovr"en said t~re would be no lake rights with any of he new homes.
Public portion '1f the PnbYc hearing closed at 8,28 P.M.
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7 November 1989
Chair Schultz review~d the "ghost plat" which demonstrates how the
be developed in the future. Schultz suggested tabling the varianc
neighbors a chance to talk among themselves and see if they could
concerns about the f~ture development plan Ms. Lovrien has for the
remaining property can
request to give the
esolve some of their
property.
Spellman moved to re~ommend approval of the subdivision request.
a second.
otion died for lack of
Chair Schultz asked for clarification of Ms. Lovrien's request. N"elsen reported that
the current ordinance requires all lots be 120 feet wide at the bu"lding line.
Leslie wondered about future property development of adjoining par els and if all new
owners would come together to get the lots platted. SPellman assu ed her that would not
happen. Leslie looked for alternatives to give access to the prop rty to be developed.
None were found.
Schultz questioned if there was a conveyance of land on the proper y to the east, could
the nonconf0rmity be avoided. Nielsen said a one foot strip would technically eliminate
any nonconformity. Schultz asked how much the road would have to e moved to the west to
avoid nonconformity. Nielsen said a 30 foot strip would be neede. Schultz recommended
to Ms. Lovrien that they come to an agreement with the adjoining p operty owners to keep
the City from creatipg a nonconformity.
Kelly said the ordinbnce was too s rict and that they should not
issue with the neig~ors.
Planner Nielsen sugg~sted planting
The outlot being cre~ted would nee
would the~ need to b~ granted an e
that Ms. Uovrien wou[d then be giv
even be required to pay the taxes
Pitney moved to reco~end that the
their differences an~ come to a co
ve to negotiate the
Schultz was concernel:l that Ms. Lov ien did not want the road locat
but was asking Mr. Mbrcelius to ap rove her request to locate the
Kelly said locating ~he road next 0 Ms. Lovrien's property would
nonconforming.
arcelius' property.
parcel. Marcelius
commented on the fact
Marcelius would not
trees between the road and Mr.
ito be legally tied to the bac
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* the property.
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*romise. Motion died for
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$ split up.
could resolve
second.
Pitney moved, Bongaa~ds seconded,
involved decide how ~he land will
let the parties
ag~nda of 21 Novembe 1989.
Motion carried unan~usly.
This item will be onl the Planning
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7 November 1989
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8:20 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - REZONIN
Minnetonka Portable Dredging Comp
AND <f,:ONDITI NAL USE PERMIT
Y - 500 WestLake street
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~he City to ~ezone their proper y from R-1A to C-4 and
Ito allow th~ to continue thei lake dredging
Minnetonka Portable Dredging
grant them a conditional use permi
business at 500 West Lake street.
Public portion of the public heari ~ opened at ~:12 P.M.
Jim Robin, attorney for the dredgi g company, said they were willi g to comply with the
eight requirements listed on the ltlter from Pl~ner Nielsen dated 30 October 1989,
noting two excePtion..s.. Thef.irst e~!cePtion WOU~d b.epaVingthepa k.ing lot (as. note. d in
item #6 on the Planner's recommenda~ion list). Robin said the pav"ng would inhibit
storage and it would also be an inconvenience f r the Shorewood Ya ht Club, which also
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uses an area of the iparking lot to ~anuver boat. The second exce tion would be to
paving the access rqad to County R04d 19. This ,was considered imp ssible because the
dredging company on~Y has access tolthe road and they do not have he right to pave it.
The Hennepin County IRegional Railro4d Au horitylcurrently owns tha area and they would
not agree to the pa~ing requirement.l At orney ~obin also question dthe requirement to
extend the six-foot Ifence on the ea~t pr perty line to the southea t corner of the site.
He said the adjoinirig property owne~s cu rentlYluse and maintain a portion of the area
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would would stay 50 feet from the ldke.
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changes the dredging company Was pldnnin afterithe rezoning was g anted.
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permit be renewed, which was requir1,d an
in their current operations.
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Leslie questioned Attorney Robin aslto w ether ~e had discussed th parking lot issue
with the Yacht Club. Robin said th~t th Y had. I Schultz asked Rob"n if he had spoken to
the County. Robin said he had not. I
Leslie suggested moving the parking I area to the I north side of the
that they would interfere with norrn~l op ration$.
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Spellman questioned Attorney Robin4bout
the issue of parking. Spellman sai4 he
upgraded. Robin said that they hadlnot
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drive at this time and suggested th~t it
Club was not in a position right no~ to
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The company was n t planning any changes
9:35 P.M.
Robin said
the memo dated 26 April 1
houghtthat the property
nticip,ted doing this.
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as going to be
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wait u~til sometime
o thatJ
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Nielsen asked Love to provide proof of ownershi:E> of the 32 fe,et wh re the paving was
requested.
Leslie moved, seconded by Spellman, to table th$ request in order 0 obtain additional
information.
Motion carried unanimously.
This item will be on the Planning Commission ag,nda of 5 December
8:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING ORDINANCE AME DMENT - FENCE REGU
A recent variance request by Robert Whelan, at $910 Cathcart Drive,
Commission to study Shorewood's current regulations on fence heigh
Whelan recently replaced an 80 foot portion of fence, part of whic
area, without a permit. The fence is six feet ligh and extends be
house to the street r.o.w. The current Ordinanc1:e restricts the fe
within front yar~s. His prior request for a vatiance was to maint
feet, which was the height of the previous fence he had replaced.
Several alternatives were discussed which would I relax the Ordinanc
from Planner Nielsen dated 1 November 1989.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 10:00 P.M.
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prompted the Planning
and location. Mr.
is in his front yard
ond the front of his
ce height to four feet
in the height at six
as stated in the memo
Mr. Whelan discussed the alternatives. He felt!alternative #1 wou d still create a
proble.m with nonconforming hO. meso Alternative #2 was considered a problem because at the
required setback (the point at which the fence $ust drop from six 0 four feet) many
houses would still be nonconforming. He felt aiternative #3 was e tirely too liberal.
Mr. Whelan presented another alternative which ~e felt would allow the City to still have
control over fences. His alternative would all~w six-foot fences n side/rear lot lines
to extend to the street r.o.w.subject to approtal of the building inspector. Approval
would be based on specific factors such as: acc.ssibility of emery net vehicles, no
obstruction of vision, aesthetic .value, etc. . wtitten consent of a jo ning neighbors
would be submitted by homeowner, if necessary. !
Public portion of the public hearing closed at iO:10 P.M. I
Commission discussed several ways in which the ~urrent Ordinance ( hith has been in
effect since 1985} could be rel.axed and still htve the City maintaOn $ome control over
the fences in Shorewood. Schultz felt that Whe an's alternative, hi~h basically left
the decision in the hands of the building inspe~tor, was not a pos ib~lity. The building
inspector must follow the guidelines that the city has put into pI
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wording whiGh would allow the current fence ordinance to be
continued until 21 November 1989.
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This issue will be
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Planning Commission Meeting
1 November 1989
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Mr. Whelan questioned the tabling of his fence tequest. He reques ed that the variance
be considered.
Planner Nielsen informed Mr. Whelan that his vafiance request was ot on the agenda for
this meeting, but could be scheduled for 21 Nov,mber 1989.
REPORTS
Council Liaison Stover reported on the Council'. meeting that was
The meeting was a study session on the new tax taws.
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ADJOURNMENT
eld on 6 November.
Motion carried unanimously.
Spellman moved, seconded by Bongaards to adjourIll the meeting at 11:15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Anita Mackey
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 21 NOVEMBER 1989
M I N U ~ E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7: 7 P.M.
ROLL CALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Spellmcn, Leslie, Benson, Pitney; Council Liaison
Stover; Planner Nielsen; Recording ~ecretary Mackey
Absent: Commissioner Mason and Bongaards
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Spellman moved, seconded by Leslie to approve tie Minutes of 7 Nov~mber 1989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
SIMPLE SUBDIVISION AND LOT WIDTH VARIANCE - CON~ INUTED FROM 7 NOVEiffiER 1989
Phyllis Lovrien - 27095 Edgewood Road
Mrs. Phyllis Lovrien had previously asked to di'ide off her homest~ad from the balance of
her 11.7 acres, which required a simple subdivifion and a lot widtl variance. The issue
was tabled from November 7th, to let the partief involved discuss :l possible compromise
regarding the subdivision.
Dana Marcelius, adjacent property owner to the East, said that he :lnd Mrs. Lovrien had not
talked until recently about the proposed develolment of her proper y. Marcelius offered
to purchase the lot, which Mrs. Lovrien rejectec. The previous prJposal presented by Mrs.
Lovrien was unsatisfactory to Marcelius.
William Kelly, Attorney for Lovrien, presented (
which Mrs. Lovrien proposed to use the parcel 0
location for the subdivision entrance sign and
proposed potential subdivision. He also noted
sell or give property to her neighbor.
proposal, dated 13 ~ovember 1989, in
land (approx,imate y 17 feet wide) as a
or landscapin g the entrance to the
hat Mrs. Lovtlien was not in a position to
In a letter dated 22 November 1989, Marcelius Si id when he finally was able to contact Mr.
Kelly he found out that a revised "ghost plat" I ad been submitted by Mrs. Lovrien, which
provided a buffer between his lot line and the I roposed roadway. Marcelius felt that this
revision was the minimum necessary to keep his lome within the 50 ~eet set back
requirement.
Marcelius met with Mrs. Lovrien again and propoled an extension to the buffer zone to
bring the road 30-40 feet south to conform with the natural contou~ of the land.
Marcelius objects to the request for subdivisio' of Lovrien's property and variance, based
on the possibility of her proposal diminishing he value to his land, he was also opposed
to the idea of her "economic gain at his expenSI ". Mrs. Lovrien told Marcelius that she
would think about his proposal.
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Chair Schultz suggested platting the lot in order to avoid the neec tor a variance.
Attorney Kelly said that they were not willing to plat the lot at his point, but it
would be considered in the future. Nielsen noted if an outlot was created as part of the
approval, the condition of the approval should state that the outlet would not be
considered buildable and could not be sold separately. Leslie queftioned if the City
would be creating a problem for Marcelius in the future if he deciced to add on to his
home, which would create another noncomformity. Schultz said that his expansion request
could be granted based on a "hardship condition". Schultz also no ed that the variance
would not be necessary and could be avoided by platting the whole I arcel now.
Leslie felt that based on the information we have available, (takiIg out the neighbors
feelings) the City could not approve the variance. Nielsen explaiIed that creation of
the outlot did not increase the noncomformity of the Marcelius res dence. In the future
he can expand his home to within 10 feet of his existing west lot ine.
Schultz moved, seconded by Benson, that this issue be recommended 0 the Council granting
the variance, subject to the outlot being conveyed to the associat on and that the
properties would be formally platted in the future.
Motion carried unanimously.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 4 December 1989.
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - FENCE REGULATIONS - CONTINUED FROM 7 l OV. 1989
Planner Nielsen was under the direction of the Commission to draft the necessary wording
which would allow the current fence ordinance to be amended. This text had not been
completed in time to present to the Commission. Nielsen said he wculd like the amended
ordinance to be stated more clearly so the community could better lnderstand it.
Pitney requested that the Planning Commission review the amended 0 dinance before it is
presented to the Council.
This item will be on the Planning Commission agenda of 5 December 989.
FENCE HEIGHT VARIANCE - CONTINUED FROM 5 september 1989
Robert Whelan - 5910 Cathcart Drive
Mr. Whelan previously requested a variance to maintain the height (f six feet on an 80
foot section of fence that he had replaced. This fence extends be ond the front of his
house to the street r.o.w.
Several alternatives were discussed at the meeting on November 7,
to direct Planner Nielsen to draft the necessary wording which wou
fence ordinance to be amended. This will be presented at the next
pointed out that the amendmeqt proposed by the Planning Commission
variance because his house is nonconforming relative to front yard
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d allow the current
meeting. Whelan
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Spellman moved, seconded by Benson, to deny the Whelan's request b sed upon the current
ordinance, which does not allow six-foot fences beyond the middle f the house.
Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote - 5 ayes.
This item will be on the Council agenda of 4 December 1989.
Benson moved, seconded by Spellman, that the fence be removed by
Motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Whelan questioned the commission's decision to deny their re est for the fence
height variance. She stated several reasons for her concerns. Th Whelan's also said
that they will attend the Council meeting of 5 December 1989 and p ead their request once
again.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR None.
REPORTS
Stover reported on the Christmas Party which is scheduled for 22 D cember 1989 at 12:00
P.M. to be held at the American Legion. Formal invitations will b sent. She also
updated the Commission regarding the Council meeting that was held on 13 November 1989
pertaining to the Waterford Development proposal. It was also sug estedthat the
Planning Commission meet with the City Council in Japuary to begin review of the
Comprehensive Plan.
ADJOURNMENT
Benson moved, seconded by Pitney to adjourn the meet~ng at 9:20 P. .
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Anita Mackey
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 5 DECEMBER 1989
M I NUT E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
Present: Chair Schultz; Commissioners Spellman, Leslie, Benson, Pitney, Mason,
Bongaards; Council Liaison Stover; Planner Nielsen; Re rding Secretary Mackey
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Leslie moved, seconded by Benson to approve the Minutes of 21 Nove er 1989 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE
Robert Brown - 20680 Garden Road
Mr. Robert Brown requests a rear yard s~tback variance to construc
his property. He proposes to locate the garage approximately 36 f
line of his property. Mr. Brown receivJd a variance in 1983 to bu
This variance request was originally foJ 25 feet, but the house wa
feet from the rear lot line. Brown proposes to build the newgara
along the same setback line.
a detached garage on
et from the rear lot
Id his existing house.
ultimately built 36
e west of the house
Public portion of the public hearing oPe1ned at 7:34 P.M.
Public portion of the public hearing cldsed at 7:34 P.M. without c mment.
Chair Schultz questioned if it w~s a hardship variance request. N
large enough to allow the variance and enable Brown to build the g
questioned as to how far the hou!se was set back from the wetlands.
the original 25 feet variance th~t was granted, the Brown's used 0
determined the wetlands area was located 70 feet from the rear lot
20 feet between the Brown's homestead arid the wetland area. Niels
poor soil conditions, the garage could not be located any further
of the topography, the house is ,set lower on the lot and anything
sit much higher.
Spellman moved, seconded by Bongaards to grant the setback
elsen said the lot was
rage. Leslie
Nielsen stated that of
ly 14 feet. Nielsen
line, which would leave
n noted that due to the
orward. Also, because
uilt behind it would
request.
Motion carried - 6 ayes (Spellman, PitneY, Benson, Leslie, Bongaar s, Mason)
- 1 nay (Schultz,).
This item will be on the Council. agenda of 11 December 1989.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
TUESDAY, 5 DECEMBER 1989
7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. TO EXCEED 1000 SQ. FT. OF ACCESS(RY SPACE
Harley Feldman - 5635 Christmas Lake Point
Mr. Feldman was not present for the public hearing.
8: 00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - C. U. P~ AND VARIANCE TO BUILD ON A SUBST1.NDARD LAKESHORE
LOT/SETBACK VARIANCE
Jeffrey Tronsor - 4365 Enchanted Point
Mr. Jeff Tronsor proposes to replace the existing dwelling. The l(t is substandard in
both width and area. Tronsor requests a side yard setback variancE, a conditional use
permit and variance to build a house on the substandard lot. The Existing house was
originally built as a seasonal cabin and was substandard from a zOIing perspective as
well as structurally. The applicant proposes side yard setbacks 0 approximately 15 feet
on the east side and 13 feet on the west side. Since the Zoning 0 dinance requires a
total side yard setback of 30 feet, Tronsor requests a variance of two feet.
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 8:06 P.M.
Mr. Pixler, neighbor to Mr. Tronsor, was present claiming to repre~ent the neighborhood.
He stated that the neighbors would like to see a nice house built (n the lot. He also
said they had all helped Tronsor plan the proposed house and unanliously supported his
request. He also passed around a petition that had been signed by everyone in the
neighborhood. Tom Turner, neighbor, said the 30 feet width was neEded to keep conformity
with the neighborhood. The existing house actually uses 12 more fEet than the proposed
home would be using. David Moorse, builder for Tronsor, said the ouse could not be set
back any further because of the topography. The proposed house wOlld have to be a 2
story home if set back further in order to see the lake. Moorse s1id they needed the 30
feet width in order to keep the house from looking like a mobile h(me. He also said they
had planned the home to maximize lake views.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 8:Q8 P.M.
Spellman moved, seconded by Leslie to grant the C.U.P. and variancE to build on a
substandard lake shore lot, subject to the three recommendations as noted by Planner
Nielsen. The recommendations are as follows:
1. Construction on the site should comply with the shoreland impa<t plan.
2. Site work must comply with Section 1201.26 Subd. 7 of the Zoni g Ordinance.
3. Any future construction should maintain a 13-foot setback on t e west side and a
17-foot setback on the east side.
Motion carried - 4 ayes (Spellman, Bongaards, MaSOn, Leslie) - 3 n ys (Schultz, Benson,
Pitney) .
This item will be on the Council agenda 11 December 1989.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
TUESDAY, 5 DECEMBER 1989
REZONING AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT'" CONTINUED FROM 7 NOVEMBER 19f 9
Minnetonka Portable Dredging Company - 500 West Lake Street
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Last month Minnetonka Portable Dredging requested a conditional usJ permit and rezoning.
The issue was tabled pending resolution of several issues. The is,ues were addressed in
Planner Nielsen I s memo dated 29 November 1989. j
Schultz questioned as to how far from the south lot line would the proposed planting of
the trees be placed. He also questioned if a double row of treesould be necessary
because the trees the dredging company planned to plant are consid,red seasonal trees.
He also felt that some type of greenery should be placed at the so th side because the
trail was located near the dredging property.
Mr. Robin, Attorney for Minnetonka Portable Dredging, said the areJ was already shielded
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from the road because of the railroad property. '
Schultz also wondered if the drainage should be dire.cted away from J'the lak .e. Planner
Nielsen suggested that the City Engineeer look into the possibilit . of some type of oil
trap. Clifford Reep said he had already proposed this to the Wate shed District.
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Nielsen suggested that the pavement design be such that it can han1le the heavy equipment
that would be driving over it. i
Mason wondered if soil tes.tlOng would be necessary to determine if~'Pillage was entering
the lake. Nielsen said the Fire Marshall had looked into the dred ing operation and
determined that the company was handling their petroleum products ell and no problems
were apparent which would warrant further investigation. :
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Leslie moved, seconded by Benson to grant the rezoning and condit if,. al use permit subject
to the conditions listed in Planner Nielsen1s report dated 29 Nove er 1989, plus those
listed in the 30 October staff report. In addition to these condi ions, 5 additional
conditions were included in the motion. These conditions are as fqllows:
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1. Review after one year and no less than every three years thete4fter to review
maintenance of the parking lot and use of the property. I
2. The Engineer and the Watershed District will agree on control ~f drainage from the
parking lot. !
3. One year deadline for paving driveway to County Road 19.
4. Fence posts linked together by cable will be no more than six 4eet apart plus the
cable will be four feet above grade. I
5. Landscaping at the south end of the property will consist of 14 spruce trees, no less
than six feet in height, interspersed with buckthorn and spacej 10 feet apart.
Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote - 7 ayes. i
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This item will be on the Council agenda of 11 December 1989.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
TUESDAY, 5 DECEMBER 1989
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7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. TO EXCEED 1000 SO. FT. OF ACCESS(RY SPACE
Harley Feldman - 5635 Christmas Lake Point ~
Public portion of the public hearing opened at 9:03 P.M.
Public portion of the public hearing closed at 9:03 P.M. without cmment.
Benson moved, seconded by Mason to continue this issue to 2 Jartuar1 1990.
Motion carried unanimously. I
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - FENCE REGULATIONS - CONTINUED FROM 21 NOVEMBER 1989
Council Liason Stover said the City Council had fence height variarce for Robert Whelan.
Stover said there was considerable discussion regarding the wordin< "repairingfl or
"replacingfl. Council felt the current ordinance deserves further ftudy and possibly it
should either be relaxed or broadened. I
After a lengthy discussion, it was suggested that the Commission w~it until Planner
Nielsen drafts the appropriate wording setting forth their recomme1dation to the Council.
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Schultz moved, seconded by Benson to continue the amendment recommtndation until the next
meeting.
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Motion carried
et This item will
unanimously.
be on the Planning Commission agenda of 2 January 1~90.
DISCUSSION - METROPOLITAN COUNCIL SYSTEMS STATEMENT FOR SHOREWOOD I
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Systems Informatio~ Statement dated 10
being prepared. stover reported that
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Planner Nielsen discussed the 1988 Metropolitan
April 1989. He said that a response letter was
Mayor Haugen was very involved in this issue.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None
REPORTS
Stover reported on the compost plan. She stated that this issue
She also noted that the Lovrien request was granted by Council.
there will be no Planning Commission on December 19, 1989.
w~s currently on
It was mentioned
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ADJOURNMENT
Spellman moved, seconded by Leslie to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 t.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
~ Respectfully submitted,
Anita Mackey
Recording Secretary
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