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1991 pl mn . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. JANUARY 15. 1991 COUNC I L~AMBERS 5755 CO Y CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 I M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Schultz called the meeting to order at 7:30 P M. Commissioner Leslie arrived at 7:35 P.M. ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Schultz. Commis~ioners Leslie. Bongaards. Spellman. Pitney. Benson. Rosenberger. and Planner Nielsen. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Bongaards moved. Pitney seconded. to approve the plannjng Commission Minutes of Dec. 4. 1990 with the following correction: 1 1. Commissioner Bongaards said that Jean Regan should be Jean Egan. Motion carried - 6/0 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. - ACCESSORY SPACE EXCEEDI~G 1200 sa. FT. APPLICANT: LOCATION: Lee LaBore 4445 Enchanted Point Chairman Schultz opened the Public Hearing at 7:35 P.M Planner Nielsen explained his recommendations. Mr. La ore was granted a C.V.P. for accessory buildings in 1989. One of his uildings was a pre-existing garage which did not comply with setbacks. This garage was allowed to be remodeled but was not allowed to be nlarged or structurally altered. LaBore replaced the roof on the garage with a roof with a steeper pitch to match his house. He thou ht this complied with the requirements. He is now asking that the original C.V.P. be modified ~o allow the garage roof to remain as it has been rebuilt. I I Nielsen said the original C.V.P. was for technical rea~ons: due to the location of an old 16 ft. platted right-of-way which o~lY serves as a a driveway to an adjoining lot. I He recommends approval of the revised C.V.P. I I I Schultz asked Mr. LaBore if he had any comments. LaBo1e passed out pictureB of the garage, Schultz clo5ed the Public Healing at 7:42 P.M. I Schultz moved. Leslie seconded. to recommend the City ~ouncil modify the C.V.P. on the LaBore property to allow for a steep~r roof pitch on the garage. Motion carried - 7/0 1 CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. JANUARY 15. 1991 COUNCIL C~AMBERS 5755 CO~RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 2 . 7:45 PUBLIC HEARING - FENCE HEIGHT VARIANCE APPLICANT: LOCATION: William Miller 25780 Sunnyvale Lane Nielsen said his attention was called to this problem ecause of a dog complaint. He does not have enough information at the present time to make a recommendation. Mr. Miller stated that he fenced in an old garden areaJfor his dogs. The fence had to be high enough to prevent the dogs fr~m jumping over it. ~ Schultz made him aware of the anonymous dog complaint. Commissioner Rosenberger asked him if he could move th dog pen. Miller said he would not have room in the yard for his children's playground equipment. Benson moved. Schultz seconded. Fence Height Variance until the Meeting. Motion carried - 7/0 to continue the hearin~ on the Miller Feb. 5. 1991 Planning lommission ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT (CONTINUED FROM DEC. . APPLICANT: LOCATION: Greg Erickson 5290 Howards Point Road 41 1990) I , I I ~or a variance Nielsen said the City had a request from Mr. Erickson to the height restrictions in the City Code. The Planning Commission had asked him to investigate a~ending Shorewood's Zoning Code to comply with the State Code. : He also looked into a performance standard measurementlto allow higher buildings under certain circumstances. I Commissioner Spellman asked if there is a maximum heig t to the Amendment. Nielsen said the Ordinance should include 40 feet as t e maximum height and 2 1/2 stories. This would still limit buil ing height but allow for architectural variation. The Commission could add conditions. such as landscapi~g. if they wanted to. ! The proposed Amendment would be consistent with other iities around the lake. The City is still more restrictive than the LMCD or several other Cities. , Nielsen said the height increase could be handled admi*istrativelY or with a C.U.P. . Commissioner Leslie asked how many times this Amendment would be applicable. She does not want to see another new ordi1ance created. Nielsen said the requests are fairly frequent. In the past 3 to 6 months there have been 4 to 5 requests for height incr ases and the residents have been asked to lower their house. ; Leslie said maybe individuals are trying to build hous~s that are too large for the lots. 2 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JANUARY 15, 1991 COUNCILiAMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 3 Commissioner Bongaards said the proposed Erickson house is in a very prominent location and would block the view of Lake Mi~netonka for many neighbors. I I Commissioner Pitney said the rooms in houses are much ~arger now than in the past and therefore the houses are larger. 1 Nielsen said the R-1A and R1B lots in Shorewood can ac ,ommodate larger houses. Schultz and Spellman said the City should protect the ~eighbors. i RICHARD GROH - ARCHITECT ! ! Groh said 30 to 40% of the homes he designs for Shorewdod have had roof height problems. This is why his firm has asked ~or an amendment to the height requirement. He said using a C.U.P. app*oach could be a problem; he would rather see it done administratively. ! Spellman and Schultz objected to this approach. Pitney asked Nielsen how he determined the ratio of se~back to height. Nielsen said it was somewhat arbitrary. ! Pitney asked if the City wanted to dictate the locatio~ of the house on the lot. Nielsen said he did not want the City to get into that~ Schultz said the current Ordinance leaves the City opej and airy and he would like to see the City remain that way. If the City allows height increases. a resident could add to a house in 0 her ways to make a very large structure. He said individuals shoud design their houses with the lot in mind. He does not see a need td accommodate these large structures. . Commissioner Benson said he does not feel it is the Ci y'S job to decide if they like a building architecturally. He wa ted an amendment to the Ordinance that standardized measureme t of height. He does not think this amendment does that. Schultz said this Ordinance is in conflict with the Ci concept. Benson said the City needs to reflect the changing tim~s. Pitney said that trading sideyard setbacks for height ~till gives openness_to the City. I , , 10 foot difference between thelCity and State He said he cannot recommend c~anging to the Nielsen said there is a methods of measurement. State Code. Groth - said that Shorewood is more restrictive in heiJht than neighboring Cities. He said residents of the neighbOr~Ood are going to like change. I I I The Public Hearing was closed at 8:45 P.M. - ~ many never CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. JANUARY 15. 1991 COUNCILu1AMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 4 I . Spellman moved. Bongaards seconded. to recommend the retain Chapter 1201 of the Shorewood City Code as it building height. Motion carried - 4/3 (Pitney. Benson. Leslie - nay) Motion carried - 7/0 Bongaards and Leslie both declined nominations for VicJ-Chairman. Pitney said he would campaign for Vice-Chairman. Leslie Pitney moved. seconded. to recommend the apPoi1tment of Dave as Vice-Chairman of the Planning Commission. I carried - 7/0 Motion i Leslie said she would be absent for the Feb. 5th meeti~g. Benson asked the Commission if they wanted to change t eir meeting time to 7:00 P.M.. to conform with the City Council me ting time. . The Planning Commission decided not to change the meet ng time. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR There were no matters from the floor. REPORTS Council Liaison Stover reported to the Planning the decisions of the Jan. 14. 1991 City Council commis~ion Meetin~. i I concerning ADJOURNMENT Benson moved. Pitney seconded. to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting at 9:10 P.M. Motion carried - 7/0 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED . Katie Snyder Recording Secretary 4 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 5. 1991 COUNCIL CH ERS 5755 COUNT Y CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:34 P.M. ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson, Commissi ners Leslie, Bongaards, Pitney, Schultz and Planne Nielsen. Absent: Commissioner Spellman APPROVAL OF MINUTES There were no minutes to approve. 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - FENCE HEIGHT VARIANCE (Continued from January 15. 1991> APPLICANT: LOCATION: WILLIAM MILLER 25780 SUNNYVALE LANE Planner Nielsen said the applicant had not submitted th requested by the City. Nielsen said Miller paid the fee and applied for the not submitted the necessary paperwork. material VarianCe but had Mr. Miller did not attend the Planning Commission meetirg. Schultz moved Leslie seconded to recommend the Cit C ncil den the Fence Height Variance for William Miller. Motion carried -6/0 on a roll call vote. Commissioner Schultz said Miller could have built variance and therefore his request would probably approved. nce without a have been Commissioner Leslie also stated that the Planning Commi reviewed the Fence Ordinance and she would not have app variance. Nielsen said the fence was built without a permit and he is not sympathetic with people who do that. Schultz agreed with him. had just this Commissioner Rosenberger also said he drove by the property a.nd said there is plenty of room to move the fence. 1. II 'I . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. FEBRUARY 5. 1991 MA TTERS FROM THE FLOOR COUNCIL CH ERS 5755 COUNT Y CLUB ROAD PAGE 2 There were no matter from the floor. REPORTS Nielsen reported that the City Council had agreed to am nd the City Code pertaining to the definition of building height. He said the Council discussed the same problems as the lanning Commission, but had agreed to amend the Code. Commissioner Leslie said she hopes the Council will con inue to have respect for the existing City Ordinances. Nielsen said there will be a meeting February 19. The Commission could continue to discuss the Comprehensive especially issues concerning Public Facilities. ADJOURNMENT Leslie moved. Schultz seconded. to adjourn the meeting Motion carried - 6/0. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED Katie Snyder Recording Secretary :? lanning lan, t 7:45 P.M. . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MARCH 5. 1991 COUNCIL CAMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER :::e::~L Plannin!1 COIJll\ission Chairman Benson, CODmiSS1oners Bongaards. Pitney. Schultz. Rosenberger and Planner Nielsen. Absent: Commissioners Spellman and Leslie APPROVAL OF MINUTES Benson moved. Pitney seconded. to approve the Planning Commission Minutes of February 5. 1991. Motion carried - 5/0. .P. TO ALLOW AGRICU TU APPLICANT: LOCATION: CLIFF BRANDHORST 27225 SMITHTOWN ROAD Chairman Benson opened the Public Hearing at 7:35 P.M. Nielsen explained that Mr. Brandhorst applied for a C.U.P. for the agricultural use of his property in an R-1A distri Mr. Brandhorst grows wholesale plants on his property requires the use of temporary greenhouse structures in Nielsen said Brandhorst has been conducting his busine years. Nielsen said there are four areas of concern to 1. Visual Impact - The existing foliage surrounding screens the greenhouses from the neighbors. even inth 2. Traffic - There is very little traffic associate business. 3. Pollution - Brandhorst uses very little fertilize that by hand. He uses a garden tiller for plowing. th is little dust. 4. Parcel size - It is recommended that one of the c C.U.P. is that the three parcels remain under the appl ownership. ndthis the summer. s.for several he property winter. with the and .applies refore.. there of the Nielsen recommended the request for the C.U.P. be gran ed. 1 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, MARCH 5, 1991 Chairman Benson asked if Mr. Brandhorst wanted to add nything. Brandhorst said Nielsen had give the Commission a good explanation. Benson closed the public portion of the hearing at 7:4 P.M. Commissioner Schultz said the Planning Commission should. review the C.U.P. at regular intervals to see if there is a>chang in the use of or ownership of the property. He also stated there is one other agricultural property in Shorewood on HwY. 7. Nielsen said the property is a nursery and uses heavY said the two properties cannot be compared; the Brandh like a family farm. Nielsen said the Brandhorsts live and this fact distinguishes it from a commercial busin Bongaards moved, Rosenberger seconded, to recommendth approve the C.U.P. to allow agricultural use of the Br property in an R-1A zoning district, subject to the.co by the City Planner and to review the C. U. P. in five Motion carried - 5/0. quipment. He rst property is on the property ss. City Council ndhorst ditions listed years. TO v APPLICANT: LOCATION: DENN I S CLARK 20880 RADISSON ROAD Benson opened the Public Hearing at 7:55 P.M. Nielsen explained that Mr. Clark proposes to build a n w home on his property and keep his existing residence until the new house is completed. He said there is precedence for allowing this request. However, there are two issues of Concern: 1. A deadline for completion of the work. The City has previously given a residen.t one year to build the new house, demolish the old and restore the site. 2. A guarantee that the existing house will be There should be no more than two weeks betwe of the new house and the demolition of the 0 The certificate of occupancy will guarantee Prior to final inspection the applicant shou to submit a bid for demolition of the old bu on that bid, a letter of credit or cash escr the bid amount should be required to ensure building is demolished. emolished. n the occupancy d. his. d be required lding. Based w of 150% of hat the Nielsen recommended the variance be granted subject to his recommendations. Mr. Clark - said he had a problem with * 4 of thedeve opment agreement. 2 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MARCH 5. 1991 Nielsen said he only had to obtain a bid before the bu'lding permit would be issued, he did not have to secure a letter of credit until he was ready to request a certificate of occupancy. Horton Brooks - 21195 Radisson Inn Road Mr. Brooks said he lives next to Mr. Clark and had no bjection to his building. Benson asked if there were any other comments from the audience. He closed the Public Hearing at 8:.03 P.M. Schultz thought there should be a letter of credit for demolition before the building permit is issued. Nielsen said the certificate of occupancy ~uaranteest at he cannot occupy until the old building is demolished. Schultz asked what remedies the City has if the buildi demolished. Commissioner Pitney said the City can attach taxes. H also said there is no'date in the development agreement stating hen the letter of credit is due and it should be stated. I I - S MP E SUBDIVISION COMBINATION V RIANCE MINNETONKA COUNTRY CLUB 24575 SMITHTOWN ROAD Commissioner Rosenberger.asked Clark if he can live wi Clark said there is a cost to obtain a letter of credi live with the changes. Rosenberger said he liked the original staff report to change the wording. Rosenberger moved. Bongaards seconded. to recommend th approve the variance for two dwellings on one lot for subject to the conditions in the staff report. Motion carried - 4/1 (Schultz). Schultz said he thinks the City should protect itBel~ statement that the City can attach taxes if the buildi demolished. 8:00 APPL I CANT:. LOCATION: Benson opened the Public Hearing at 6:15 P.M. Nielsen explained that the Minnetonka Country Club is Simple Subdivision/Combination and Variance to settle disputes with various property owner.s surrounding the Shorewood's Subdivision Ordinance requires formal plat subdivisions involving more than three parcels. James Penberthy represented the Minnetonka Country Clu , ._1 h the changes, . but he can did not want vf Council Clark adding a is not eCDJ.est ing a oundary line olf course. ingfor . . . ! COUNCIL CJAMBERS 5755 CO~ C;LUBROAD PAGE 4 . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MARCH 5. 1991 Mr. Ellis Pike - Country Club Lane was concerned that his conveyance of property would seta precedent for other boundary line disputes. He said there are many other boundary. disputes surroun ingthe golf course. Nielsen said there would be no precedent set. The own rs of the property all agree to the settlement otherwise. it would not be processed. Benson said this type of property swapping has been do e before in the City. Benson closed the Public Heardng at 8:25 P.M. Schultz asked if this increased any setback deficienci said the conveyance of property should improve the set Pitney asked how these disputes started. Penberthy - said they represent a line of use that goe years. The surveys are in agreement but not the line Jay Venero - Seamans Drive - said these lines have bee over 50 years. back for many fuse. occupied for Bongaards moved. Pitney seconded. to recommend the Counci.l 9t"ant the Simple Subdivision/Combination and Variance forMi netonka Country Club subject to review by the City Attorney and City E gineer. Motion carried - 5/0. GID ON'S COVE - COMP DMENT - I APPLICANT: LOCATION: BOYER CONSTRUCTION (John Blumentritt) LAWTONKA ADDITION (West of Timber Lane Bob Boyer of Boyer Construction presented the proposed Boyer Construction proposes to build 10 attached patio Lawtonka Subdivision. These homes would be marketed t older age group and would be luxury patio homes. Eigh walk out toward Gideon's bay and the others would over wetland. He said there isa softening of the luxury housing mar a need for this type of housing. He said Shorewood is elderly housing and this proposal could be what they a Schultz asked who owned the property East of the site. Boyer said they own the property but it would not be p development. Schultz also asked if the homes would be for sale or r they would be sold. Schultz said he could not discriminate in his sales. homes would be in the higher price range. $250-300.000 eliminate the first time buyer. He said the marketing would be directed to the 55 and older age group. 4 plan. homes in the the 55 and homes would ook the et and there is looking at e looking for. Boyer said oyer said the and would of. the project . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MARCH ~. 1991 COUNCIL C 57~~ CO PAGE ~ Rosenberger asked how large. the homes .would be. Boyer said they would be a one story walk out with 1300 Sq. ft. Schultz said there are many other rental properties in the area. What would prevent these homes from becoming rental propert ? Boyer said there will be an association to preserve ar htectural integrity and upkeep. Pitney said there would be a much greater density of h project. wi th this Boyer said the project will be an asset to the communi detrimental to the residential sites. and not Rosenberger asked the Realtors if the homes would sell. Dave Truax - Burnet Realty- said the price level, vie walking path are all amenities that will appeal to eld the lake, residents. Schultz asked why they did not market this property Ye rs ago as upper bracket homes, the same amenities apply to single familY buyers. Boyer said the ~roperty was not marketed because there is an overabundance of luxury homes in the area. Boyer Cons ruction would rather provide for the current need than add to the un old luxury market. Bongaards said there is similar housing in Wayzata; h s it sold? Truax said it has been very successful at the $160,000 price range. Benson said this is not his concept of elderly housing. Hesaid elderly housing should be reasonably affordable. He s id this project is really a P.U.D. Schultz said the neighborhood was receptive to the ori He does not think this new plan is in the best interests neighborhood or City. Boyer said this zoning fits with the surrounding area. He would like the Commission's input. Benson said he does not like the idea of using an ly housing definition to increase the density of a projec~. Bongaards asked if Amesbury was marketed as elderlY ho Council Liaison Stover said the developers of Amesbury composite of the type of individual who would buy their homes. Rosenberger said he does not consider this project an lderly housing project and is offended by the proposal. John Blumentritt -Boyer Construction- asked Rosenberg r what he would like to see. 5 . . . C In OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MARCH 5. 1991 Rosenberger said Boyer should decide if this is a P.U. Nielsen said, if this is not an elderly housing projec will have to justify the need for greater density on the pr Their current proposal asked for a density of 4.13 units per Blumentritt said there is a need for this type of proj He said the price range has not been set. Boyer said this approach is a better use of the land a d wi 11 sell better. If there is a decrease in density, there will be an increase in price. Truax also said the market for luxury single family ho es has decreased. The Commissioners told Boyer that they should not defi e this project as an elderly housing project and they should look at he density. Blumentritt asked what the Commission thought elderly Rosenberger and Benson thought it should be less than $400,000 Boyer proposed. ousing was. he $300 - Nielsen said the City is in the middle of anelderlyh using study and is defining the elderly population as closer to retire ent age. Blumentritt said there are different ideas about the e population and Boyer is considering the segment from.5 active adults who want a smaller home. as Nielsen said Boyer should talk to the neighbors before they make a formal application for amendment and come back to the lanning Commission. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR There were no matters from the floor. REPORTS Stover reported on the negotiations with Trivesco conc rnihg the TIF development plan. She said Trivesco has>agreed to a 9 interest rate and the contracts will be signed tomorrow, March 6, 19 1. She said. if the costs of the project are higher, the itydoes not have to sell the bonds. but it will forfeit the $99,00 . Shorewood will ask Sherman-Boosalis for the $53.000 it owes the City and then will assign the collection of the money to Tr.vesco. Nielsen said the Council reversed the Commission's dec.sionon the Miller Fence Height Variance. 6 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMI SS I ON MEETING TUESDAY APRIL 2. 1991 COUNCIL CAMBERS 5755 CO RY.CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:40 P. . ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson, Commiss oners Spellman, Pitney, Rosenberger and PlannerNi lsen. Absent: Commissioners Leslie, Bongaards and Schultz. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Rosenberger moved. PitneY seconded. to approve the Pia ningCommissio.n Minutes of March 5. 1991. Motion carried - 4/0. 7, Ron Johnson A rox. 20 acres located on the .west si Road between Shady Hi lis and Wat.erford. Benson opened the Public Hearing at 7:41 P.M. He aske was present. Mr. Johnson was represented by his attor APPLICANT: LOCATION: Planner Nielsen said that the City had approved a rezo preliminary plat for 20 acres of land owned by Mr. Joh 1988. Mr. Johnson did not seek final plat approval at Mr. Johnson is now again requesting preliminary plata proposes alternative solutions to the two requirements took exception in 1988. 1. WETLAND DEDICATION: Much of Mr. Johnson's propert The proposed plat of the property designates thewetla outlot. Nielsen recommends the wetland be dedicated w northwest corner of the site is platted. 2. PROTECTIVE COVENANTS: which faces Waterford Circle. In 1988, the City reco be subject to the Waterford Covenants. Johnson does n protective covenants similar to Waterford but does obj subject to their Architectural Review Committee. John solutions to this problem. a. An independent architectural review committe b. Have Shorewood'sPlanning Dept. review prede architectural controls before issuing buildi 1 Johnson Bonner. ing and son in July>of that time. prova.l and with which he is wetland. d.area as an en the de an outlot ended the lots t object to ct to being on proposes two ~:", llV',AH') " I' ")1 I" I' , ,fl v11Y I j() ,f~j llnn}'-}...) 1 . j, f ') ') , ('" c.., ,'t" . 1~"1 _~ '.'"f ;. .~_ :~~ 1 'r.lf I (,! 1", lA .~;, ~-; 1 l ~'I. ! ! i, ; b i '-1 ~lll. tV),"; r~ ;: ~.' (I ::{: ) '-\ ~1 :?':3T"Vl M J '. ');1 t 1 <-, ~\ q f.t;!T":.. j "l .l~. f '; , 1\ , , ' I'; I~_ rJO(;W3~+}rL '{l) YTI J ; 1V1 : T,j JJlil (H) 1 0C; l MMCf) t)vi i vtV1AJi I~li-'I' :'.. ..li~f'1i\ '!'At.l:;::nn ,CiCl\o1c,.1 I,)f ,UA') I ';d::>i';, f. F..L;f";t,,~; .,I.,lA:J J.l.llH c' 1'"1 I (ii' ,- F j (',: :r ! c-~ ~ (', t (i ~ ~ ~! i" lj;~ , !' 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'-1 .!j,:" <-+',l"'. f' tl \1..; ~~ '1(.[[' ~I ( , "-,1(' .11-,) (1 : iVl ,,::(jrJ " -! 1\1] " '~jlj ;..0( 'I '..,1 y' (' pi ''1 i'j _ L t:} ~-;.':",..f (. ,f Q '~j r ,qf'~l:'-:P Ji'()() '1\ 11i1 , ,,~1 -.Ij; '! . ,."'f'\.! t.:'t:"'" '1;' 11'''' i' (.1' r('; 1 7- .~~ :[1 ',1 ' ;'. l'.f':~ l, i' ~:.. t t." ., ,r'l, '.- n 7 -/ r, t.J '^ ('; t'J' '~or 1,:.:,1 ' {I :'.-1: . .:. .;-1; ,. t i. ~ IiI,:':::: ,'f r ,i; J u: (i:) ..,.~; I ' ,A fl'd 1.,1" ~ ...,[ 1.6 . . t >. ", I ;~ . . . . " CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY APRIL 2. 1991 COUNCIL 5755 CO PAGE 2 ERS RY CLUB ROAD Nielsen said the Staff and City Attorney do not recomrn involved in the architectural review committee. Howev some sort of review should be done. Nielsen explained that Trivesco Inc. is the Architectu Committee for Waterford until the last lot is e.ither s Nielsen recommended the preliminary plat be approved s conditions set forth in his memo of March 28. 1991. the City be they do feel Review Benson opened the hearing to comments from the Public t 7:47P.M. JOHN BONNER - A'ITORNEY FOR MR. JOHNSON Mr. Bonner said Trivesco is a competitor with any buil develop the lots. He said the market value of these 16 determine the stYle of house built on the lot. Bonner feels an independent architectural review committee wi professional evaluation and will not have competitive in mind. will Johnson RON LUND - 5565 WATERFORD CIRCLE Mr. Lund said the residents of Waterford Circle voiced their objections to this proposal two years ago. When Mr. J hnson purchased the outlot. he was told that they are part of Waterfor and subject to the Covenants. Lund said the new lots will make use of all the benefi Waterford Association and it's open spaces. To place d covenants on these lots would be unfair to other homeo would negate the existing covenants. Lund said there are provisions in the Covenants for en orcement of the Covenants. any homeowner can take a person to court if the Covenants are not followed. Lund said the initial purchasers of the property have mproved the value of the property and what is good enough for them should be good enough for Johnson. BONNER - said Johnson wants to be part of Waterford. b t not in the initial design stage. He feels Trivesco is a competit r. He said the residents have a fear of the unknown and a independent design committee should allay those fears.. JERRY KENLINE - 5535 WATERFORD CIRCLE Kenline said .he has lived in Waterford for five years. He also thought outlot C was part of .Waterford. He said the Panning Commission should protect the resident's property valu s by insisting Johnson abide by the Waterford Covenants. 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CAMILLA NELSON - ~'9' WATERFORD CIRCLE Nelson said she has had her house for sale and is just beginning to see response. She will have a hardship if she cannot ssure a prospective buyer about the type of houses to be built directly across the street. JOHN ASKINS - SHADY HILLS CIRCLE asked if there are an restrictive covenants on the building in the N.W. corner of the J hnson property. Nielsen said the area is zoned for single family dwell ngs. BONNER said the only development interest right now is the Waterford lots. The resubdivision sketch was done at the City's request. Benson closed the Public Hearing at 8:22 P.M. Benson asked Nielsen if Trivesco has any design criter a for their architectural review. Nielsen said it is subjective. The partners decide wh t is appropriate. There are no sq, footage or minimum cost requirements. Trivesco does not think sq. footage equals~uality. H said it is quite common for the builder to be the architectural r view committee Commissioner Spellman stated they should go back to th original agreement. Nielsen said the agreement only stated that Trivesco m outlot to Johnson. The City Attorney informs us tl1at outlot does not necessari ly extend the restrictio.ne, impose further restrictions. Spellman said the original intent of the Planning Comm ssion was to extend the restrictions to include the additional la.nd Commission Pitney said the residents have a right to a sume that the outlot will have the same restrictions. However. he u derstand that Johnson does not want to obliged to Trivesco. Benson said he thought the City was looking out forJo nson in the 1988 decision. Commission Rosenberger asked Bonner why Johnson though Trivesco is a competitive threat. ~ ..::. \ ,-" !',~j ::,;rii.:.l Arf~; i l' VIi .J.I it;, ~'r! ~.'~1t ;\f'} Ct~:\f'~ f ~fF)A '"1 .I J "..... /It ..,"-1 I , I "J 1, 1.' r' I." . 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COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY APRIL 2, 1991 COUNCIL C 5755 CO PAGE 4 BONNER said Johnson has dealt with Trivesco in the.pas will not approve his design if they have lots for sale development, When Waterford is fully built then Trive the review committee and Johnson wi 11 be deal ing with unprofessional design committee, Spellman asked what Bonner suggests, BONNER said he suggests a third party or independent d Benson said Johnson could be just as vindictive with thinks the residents need to be protected, Rosenberger asked if the residents could get a third the designs, ERS Y CLUB ROAD and feels they in their co will not be n committee, and he review RON LUND - said the mechanisms are already set up in t e Waterford Covenants and he wants to let them work, Spellman moved, .Rosenberger seconded, to recolIIDend the C:ityCounci 1 approve the preliminary plat tor Johnson'li!J First Addit'on<t!Jubject to the conditions recommended by the Planner and that he ust submit proposed covenants and restrictions the same as Watert rd'8, tor review and approval by the City, Motion carried - 4/0 SIMPLE SUBDIVISION/CO~INATION APPLICANT: LOCATION: John Askins/Paul Almquist 19385 and 19355 ShadY Hills Road Nielsen said the request is rescheduled for the May 7 eeting. 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CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, MAY 7, 1991 COUN<tIL CHAMBERS 5755 couNTIty CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 MINUTES CALL TO ORDER Present: Chairman Benson, Commissioners, Pitney, Schultz, and Rose1berger. Commissioners Leslie, Spellman and Bongaards. ! Absent: APPROVAL OF MINUTES Pitney moved, Rosenberger seconded, to approve the Planning Commission ~utes of April 2, 1991. I Benson opened the Public Hearing at 7:37 p.m. John Askins was present. ke indicated that both he and Mr. Almquist agree on the division and combination. Motion carried 4/0. 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - SIMPLE SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION/LOT WIDTH VARIANCE APPLICANT: LOCATION: Paul Almquist and John Askins 19355 and 19385 Shady Hills Road i Schultz questioned if the reduced lot width adversely affected setbacks. Nielsen replied that both homes still comply with setback requirements. ' Schultz moved, Pitney seconded, to approve the division, combination and l~t width variance subject to the recommendations of the Park Commission. Motion carried 4/0. HOUSE MOVING PERMIT APPLICANT: LOCATION: Kevin and Gerri Kuester 5885 Christmas Lake Road Gerri Kuester and Bill Otting, the house mover, appeared to answer questiOI s from the Planning Commission. Otting had met with the City Engineer and was com ortable that the house could be moved along Christmas Lake Road without damaging privatI:: or public property. . . . I I CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUN~IL CHAMBERS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNT~Y CLUB ROAD TUESDAY, MAY 7,1991 I PAGE TWO Chairman Benson suggests moving the building late at night. Otting said it tould be better to move it during the day and allow it to be parked until 1: 30 a. m., at whic~ time it could be taken onto Highway 7. He suggested that they may go west on Highway 7 fstead of east. i Rosenberger moved, Pitney seconded to approve the house moving permit ~bject to the City Engineer's recommendations, and that if the house must be parked while w ting to get on Highway 7, that the mover obtain the permission of the affected property 0 ner. I Motion carried 4/0. I GIDEON'S COVE - COMPREHEN IVE PLAN AMENDMENT - INF I AL DISCUSSION (continued from March 5. 1991) APPLICANT: LOCATION: Boyer Construction (John Blumentritt) Lawtonka Addition (west of Timber Lane) Bob Boyer presented a revised concept plan showing 14 units (seven two-fa~ily dwellings) on the six lots in Lawtonka that they control. . Schultz asked what their plans were for the penninsula outlots. Boyer felt ~t they would be deeded to the frrst two units on the east end of the project. Schultz then ask~ how they propose to control what age group buys the units. Boyer said the units wou~ be marketed to and designed for people in the 55 years and older catetgory. ' I Liaison Stover asked what about the project appeals to "active adults". Boy~r listed the following: -proximity to recreation facilities - the trail -established community -physical security -financial security (home ownership) -proximity to family and friends -location in a residential neighborhood -unit design Schultz asked the price range of the units. Boyer felt that the units would pt' obably sell for $215,000. Schultz stated that the homes on Timber Lane ranged from $250 000 and up. Dave Truax, realtor for Boyer, mentioned that the range was higher because they were lakeshore properties. I I John Blumentritt commented that the concept fits between the existing doublfs and the single- family units on Timber Lane. i -2- . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUN~IL CHAMBERS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD TUESDAY, MAY 7, 1991 i PAGE THREE Nielsen asked if the density calculations included the right-of-way for LawtO~ka Drive. Blumentritt responded that they were considering asking for the road to be p . vate. Nielsen said that a private road raises a number of issues: 1) they do not control all f the property which accesses the road; and 2) they have to demonstrate why vacating the tpad would be in the public interest. I I I Pitney stated that he appreciated the approach and felt that the revised plan tas improved over the original one. . Schultz feels the density is too high and that the increase in traffic would be lunacceptable. Pitney agreed that the houses were too close to the street. Blumentritt suggested keeping the street public but allow private maintenanc4. i I Boyer questioned the trip generation figures. Rosenberg summarized his concerns: 1) density; 2) too little space between ~UildingS; and 3) have they considered fewer lots (e.g. 10 or 11 units)? I Blumentritt asked the Planning Commission if they felt the project has merit~ Schultz - no, Benson - possibly, Pitney - likes concept, density is perhaps too high, buildifgs too close to road. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR There were no matters from the floor. REPORTS Stover mentioned that there would be a joint meeting of the Council, Plannin.g Commission, and Senior Housing Study Task Force on 21 May at 6:30 p.m. I ADJOURNMENT Schultz moved, Benson seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10:00 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED Bradley J. Nielsen Planning Director -3- . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MAY 21. 1991 COUNCILu9AMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Vice-Chairman Pitney called the meeting to order at 7:qO P.M. ROLL CALL PLANNING COMMISSION Present: Planning Commissioners Leslie. Bongaards. Spdllman. Pitney. Schultz. and Planner Nielsen. Absent: Chairman Benson. Commissioner Rosenberger COUNCIL Present: Mayor Brancel. Councilmembers Gagne. Stover ~nd City Administrator Hurm. Absent: Councilmembers Lewis and Daugherty SENIOR HOUSING TASK FORCE Jack and Shirley Barnum. Bob Gardner. Barb Keffer. Bil Maddy. William Nilsen. R. W. Reutiman. Mildred Wendt. Vern Wa~ten. Bob Lower. Cathy Anderson. Jo Cunningham and Judith Marshik. Consultant. I I Councilmember Gagne introduced the Senior Housing TasklForce and commended Judith Marshik for the fine job she has done on the seJior Housing Study. , i , Judith Marshik. Senior Housing Consultant Marshik introduced the Summary Findings and Recommenda~ions for the Senior Housing Market Research Project. I She said the Task Force mailed questionnaires to 1300 ;esidents of Shorewood who were 50 years of age or older. There we e 400 responses. They also held two discussion groups with retirement a e adults. I PART II - THE GROWING NEED FOR SENIOR HOUSING IN SHOR~OOD. Bob Gardner presented part II and said one of the majo~ findings of the study indicated that the Cities of Tonka Bay and shore1'ood are currently estimated to have and projected to have more residents over 55 than any other area cities. , He said the report states that Shorewood lacks virtual~y any type of apartment housing and is absent any housing targeted f1r the retired adult market. , Gardner emphasized that the City needs to develop a and commit to it. He said without a strong policy. se~ior Housing Policy de1elopers will be hard I I ! I I 1 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MAY 21. 1991 COUNC I L~AMBERS 5755 CO Y CLUB ROAD PAGE 2 I ! to find. He said the Task Force has been approached b~ many developers but they felt it was not appropriate to talk to them at th~s point. Gardner said a more permanent Senior Housing Commission should ibe established by the City. R. W. Reutiman said the City should make a commitment hat will obligate future Councils to the project. He said residents di not want subsidized housing. Gagne said that future Councils may not follow up on t e project. Bill Nilsen said the commitment could be reviewed ever year. Planning Commissioner Pitney said the report should ha~e charts showing the percentage of retired adults vs the general population.1 Reutiman said the major consideration should be whethe~ the Senior population will support this project. ! PART III - THE DIVERSE HOUSING NEEDS OF RETIREMENT AGE I ADULTS ! She S~id the Task Force I smaller ~han a single family I unit dwe~lings with special Barb Keffer presented part three of the report. identified three types of senior housing: 1. Step-Down Housing - housing that is dwelling. Senior Apartment Housing - multiple services for seniors. Assisted Living Housing - apartment staff for frail adults. 2. 3. lifestYI~ with a professional ! Keffer said the respondents in Shorewood have lived in Ithe area for an average of 27 years and planned on remaining in the ar~a for their retirement years. She said 30% of the respondents planned on relocating from their present homes within the next four years. Of the three housing options 79% selected the "step-down" category. ~' Keffer said many people stated they would prefer to st y in their own homes if services could be provided. She suggested Shorewoo address this problem. The Seniors would need help to remodel their !homes for easier access. help with lawns and gardens. home health care. !transportation. She said the step down housing was very popular with r sidents. This type of housing would be a smaller home or cluster home wit a separate entrance. Most residents were opposed to a high rise partment. She said assisted living options were usually needed b adults 80+. Many residents viewed the Excelsior Nursing Home as a oor option. However. a high quality nursing home option might be c .nsidered. Vern Watten showed the group a sketch of clustered hom~s. Planning Commissioner Spellman asked Keffer if it is i~legal to restrict housing to 55 and over. Keffer said it is legal to do!this if certain services are provided. such as dining rooms. visiting nurses and social services. : Marshik said there was a need for both rental and purc~ase of properties. Gagne said there was a definite split within the group Ion this topic. Pitney asked if people stepped from a large single famjly house to a smaller house and then an apartment. Marshik said it ~as hard to know this because there is no step down housing in the area. I 2 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, MAY 21. 1991 COUNCIL C~AMBERS 5755 CO~RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 3 I Planning Commissioner Schultz asked how these step dowq houses differed from the Saddlewood complex or Breconwood. Marshik sa~d it was mainly a difference in lifestyle the City needs to look at. ' Keffer said it is difficult for seniors to leave their homes; they want to stay in them. Schultz asked what radius they looked at. Marshik sai the housing should be within 3 to 5 miles. Pitney said the City could start to plan for this hous"ng and it would be available when the need arises. Marshik said that, based on their study, the City coulq fill 40-50 units immediately. I Gagne said a cluster home idea have to change it's Ordinances of housing. Schultz asked how this would work for the City. Vern Watten said the housing could be grouped in areas !around the City. Marshik said a central area could be used for medical ~acilities. Keffer said these questions need to be answered by the Ideveloper. Planner Nielsen said developers have made proposals to~the City regarding a variety of housing for Seniors. Councilmember Stover asked what the cost would be to t e homeowner. Nielsen said $450 to $600 tax assisted was feasible. Pitney asked how many acres would be necessary. Nielsen said 4 to 5 acres would be needed, however, adjustment in the Comprehensive Plan. Schultz said a true Senior housing project would be is very desirable, howeier, the City will to allow more units per acre for this type th~s would require an i wo~th the density. PART IV - LOCATING HOUSING OPTIONS FOR RETIREMENT AGE ~DULTS WITHIN SHOREWOOD. I Jack Barnum presented part IV. He referred the group Jo a map of the area with sites marked as suitable for Senior housing. I Reutiman said the City needs to consider what type of ~acility should be built. Whether to be close to shopping or whether a r~ral atmosphere needs to be maintained. ~' Gardner said it is important not to build too large a omplex in a residential area. Barnum said the sites on the map all have sewer and s me have water and are at least 5 to 6 acres. Nielsen said he chose these sites because of the size .~f the parcels, their suitability for the Senior development, close to a maJ~r road and they are undeveloped or underdeveloped. , i PART V - PROVIDING SUPPORT SERVICES FOR SENIOR HOUSING IOPTIONS IN SHOREWOOD Shirley Barnum and Mildred Wendt presented part V. Thdy said that Seniors need to have a lot of support facilities in whatever t~pe of housing is built. Chore and maintenance help was at the top of t e list of services and housekeeping help was next. , Schultz said the City needs to promote the availability of these services. Reutiman said these services are now available but not ieasily accessible. 7 ~ . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. MAY 21. 1991 COUNCILuiAMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 4 ! Marshik said the City needs to play an important part ~n the information process. Barnum said many residents would stay in their homes f,f they had these support facilities within easy reach. I Marshik said transportation is critical. She said Ede~ Prairie. Chanhassen and Chaska have formed their own S. W. Metro Transport4tion and it has been very successful. i Keffer said this type of cooperation could be establis*ed between Excelsior. Greenwood. Tonka Bay and Shorewood. She sa~d Dial-a-Ride is popular in Chanhassen and Chaska. , i I PART VI - FINANCING HOUSING OPTIONS FOR SENIORS i Vern Watten presented part VI. He said a $65.000 to $+0.000 unit. with 10 per acre would cost about $925 per month. He said a r~nge of $600 to $1200 per month was desirable for area residents. , Gagne said affordable housing was a main criteria for the study. I Bill Maddy said he has a 600 Sq. ft. mobile home in Ar1zona and would love to have the same arrangement in Minnesota. City Administrator Hurm asked if there was a preferenc for one or two bedrooms. Marshik said 50% of the respondents wanted wo bedrooms. Watten said a developer can do all of the developing ot the City can help with financing or they can use a subsidized system. I Schultz asked if there can be cooperation with Waconia~hosPital for medical services. He said they are aggressively marketing the r services. Marshik said it is common to do this and Methodist hos ital also provides medical services for Seniors. I i i i Marshik asked the Planning Commission if they felt anyihing had been left out of the study. She said the next step is a formal ~roposal to the City Counci I . ' Schultz said the Study should state clearly that and older residents. this ~ousing is for the 55 I ShOUI~ be the Senior ! , , Planning Commissioner Leslie said the Task Force Commission and develop a policy statement. Bill Nilsen said the Planning Commission and Council s~ould have the opportunity to digest the material before any decision1 are made. Leslie asked Nielsen if the Study will appear on the n~xt agenda. He said it would. i i I I Pitney thanked the Task Force for their information an~ for the time they devoted to the project. Nielsen thanked Judith Marshik for the fine job she I di~ I on the project. 4. . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JUNE 4. 1991 COUNCI LuiAMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S C~L~_..._I..Q.....QRPE~ Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:34 P.~. ROLL_~AL_~ Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson. Commiss'oners Leslie. Bongaards. Spellman. Pitney. Schultz Rosenberger and Planner Nielsen. APPR.9V~k..QL..M_U.ill.:r~Q. I i I I I Plannin~ Commission Minutes Schultz moved, Pitney seconded. to approve the of May 7.1991. Motion carried - 7/0 I I 7 : 30_.P_ll~LlG_.HE;ARI NG _.=...._'lliQMe.QQJ'~L.ADD.l.:.:LLQIL=-P..R.E.LLMI N}.Ry_r..L.A..T I I .P....E..El..iJ;:"g.nt_,- LocatiQ.D...;_ .chqLl.~..~__IhQ.mpsQ.n .5260 ....s..,t...._A.l.Qg n~_.._;e.gY.. RO~J;l Planner Nielsen explained Mr. Thompson's request to di ide his property into three lots. The applicant proposes to provide ac ess to his three lots plus an existing lot to the north via an upgraded private driveway which currently exists on the site. i ZONING REQUIREMENTS: Nielsen said the lots meet orl exceed the minimum width and area requirements for the R-1A district. ACCESS He said the main issue is the access to the property. The upgraded driveway. which Thompson proposes to use as a~cess. must be 20 feet in width to conform to the Uniform Fire Code. Th 20 foot access must remain unobstructed. therefore. the City should requir that the homes on lots 2 and 3 be no closer than 50 feet to the road. SURFACING: Nielsen stated the Excelsior Fire Marshlll said the U.F.C. does not require the road to be paved. r GRADE: With the addition of about one foot of fill ~t the bottom of the driveway. the grade will be the required 10%. I I i of thel final plat. the easemerts and maintenance I I CROSS EASEMENTS/MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT: As part applicant's attorney must provide the necessary agreement for the joint use driveway. 1 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991 COUNCILuiAMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB PAGE 2 i ROAD UTILITIES: The applicant proposes to tie the house existing six inch service which serves the lot to the provide an agreement for the maintenance and repair of In the applicant's final plat, he should show how he w equalization charges spread against the lots. on Lot 3 into an orth. He should the sewer service. nts sewer PARK DEDICATION FEES: The applicant must pay two patk dedication fees ($1500), prior to release of his final plat. ' The Planner recommends approval of the Thompson Additi1n subject to the conditions stated. r I Chairman Benson asked if there were any comments from the public. There were no comments and the Public Hearing was closed. I Spellman moved, Leslie seconded, preliminary plat of the Thompson in the City Planner's report. to recommend the citylCouncil approve the Addition, subject to the conditions stated I i i Motion carried - 7/0 on a roll call vote. Commissioner Leslie asked Mr. Thompson is he had any c~ncerns about the conditions imposed on the preliminary plat. He had nolconcerns. 7 ,45 PUB.L!L HJ;;AR) N!L::...ID1!PJ;.E i2!.rnD!JllS.! ONLL.QL!'l!.!l!lLllAllrCE !.EE.li.9-sm..t..,. A.!...._J......_.Me I gghl. Lo c .9..tj...9. n..;_ .2..18 .~L..C a t h Q..al::..t._..P.!:J.Y e. I Nielsen explained that Mr. & Mrs. Meldahl propose to d.vided their property into three lots. They have requested a variance to al~ow two of the lots to be narrower than currently required by the Shorewoo~ Zoning Ordinance. Nielsen said there are two issues to be addressed: RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION: The applicant's property fronts on Cathcart Road and W. 62nd St.. Nielsen said West 62nd St. is gross If. substandard in terms of R.O.W. The Meldahl's would have to provide 1 ft. of r.o.w. and this would drop the area requirement for lots A and Below the minimum requirement. I I LOT WIDTH VARIANCE: Nielsen stated that there is ample lots 120 feet wide. The applicants have stated that a created if they had to change the survey on the proper parcel with their home on it. Nielsen said State and that variances cannot be granted primarily for economi Nielsen said mortgage companies can grant partial mort Nielsen recommended the applicant revise their survey 120 ft. Then the subdivision can be granted subject t conditions as stated in his report. 2 room to make all the hardship would be y and refinance the ity statutes state reasons. age releases. o show lot widths of the planners . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991 COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNfRY CLUB ROAD PAGE 3 I MR. MELDAHL said he did not know he had to dedicate why the lots have to be 40,000 ft. I I r'f'w. I , and doesn't know Benson closed the Public Hearing Spellman moved, Pitney seconded, to recommend the City Council deny the variance for A. J. Meldahl. Motion carried - 7/0 on a roll call vote. Schultz and Leslie asked what the Meldahl's should do the Meldahl's should redo their lot lines. , rext. obtain r.o.w. within Nielsen said Benson told Meldahl that it is a matter of policy to the City. Spellman moved. Pitney seconded. to approve the SUbdivision of the Meldahl property subject to the conditions of the City Planner regarding the 120 ft. lot width. Motion carried - 7/0 on a roll call vote. 8 ~p 0 PUl;lL I C HEA.B.LNG_-=...J?~..IB~.QK.Jl~lU_~.N.G..E.. AE..El i cant: Locgt...:!. on: .J..Qhn .._E i nD.Qrl1 ~..2.8 0 HOW..9.r..Q...:...~....J:> o...:i:J.l_t.......Roq.Q,. Einhorn proposes to build a new home in place of his existing asking for a 9.4 ft. variance on the east side of the property variance on the north side. the existing home is nonconforming in ter s of setbacks. I Nielsen said home. He is and an 8 ft. Nielsen said Nielsen said Einhorn cited three reasons for his requert for variance. 1. a garage north of his property cuts off his view pf Lake Mtka. 2. preservation of mature pine trees. I 3. the location of other nonconforming buildings in ~he area. I NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE: Nielsen said that the Shprewood Zoning Ordinance states that a nonconforming structure must b~ replaced with a structure that conforms to existing requirements. ! I I VARIANCES: The applicant must demonstrate that som~ hardship exists which prevents him from making reasonable use of the property. Maintaining a view of lake Minnetonka is not considere~ a reason for granting a variance. r Island View road is a private road and the garage nort of Einhorn's property met the setback requirements when it was buil . Nielsen said there is a provision in the Ordinance fori consideration of the average setback in an area but this only applies to ho~ses on the same block. I ..~t CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. JUNE 4. 1991 COUNCIL~AMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 4 I ! Nielsen recommended denial of the variances. He said Ihere is ample to place the proposed house within the buildable area If the lot. room . I JOHN EINHORN said he proposes to build a 2nd floor deCf which will give him a view of the lake. however. without the variance the eck will be in the trees. He also said the Brentridge development was rezoned to allow smaller setbacks. ! Einhorn said the fact that Island View is private Should mean that the house across the road and his house should not be on s parate blocks. Nielsen said the City now treats a private road and a ublic road equally. MRS. EINHORN said the pine trees are part of the chara ter of the lot and the entire area. She would not like to cut down any 0 the trees. Commissioner Schultz asked Einhorn if he would be deni d the use of his property? Einhorn said no. Schultz then said the Cit cannot. by law. grant the variance. DANA SHAW said he owns property close to the Einhorn'Sti He said Einhorn put a lot of effort into his property and the trees on his property are part of the character of the area. He said the Commit ee should look at the property in person. . Benson closed the public hearing at 8:25 P.M. Spellman moved. Bongaards seconded. to recommend the C~ty Council deny the setback variance for John Einhorn. Motion carried - 7/0 on a roll call vote. Leslie said many houses in the area did not conform with R-1A standards. Einhorn said he objects to being held to the R-1A requtrements. Nielsen said the neighborhood objected to being rezone1. I ! , D..l..S.cu.sID.QN......QE._.s.El:ill)..R_..HQ!.lS..I.N.G_...MARKE.I_...RESE..!RCH.....IA.s.lLE.Q~lr:(._.REPOJU:. Nielsen summed up the report by saying there is a need1for various types of housing in Shorewood. a policy statement and more participation by the City. I Leslie questioned the need for a policy statement. Nielsen said this is part of the entire process. The ~ity will have to change Ordinances and Resolutions to accommodate Seniot Housing and a policy statement serves as a foundation for those actifns. He said there appear to be three ways to finance this type of development. . 1. 2. 3. Private development. Some participation by the City. Tax Increment Financing. 4 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991 COUNCIL C~AMBERS 5755 COUNtRY CLUB ROAD PAGE 5 ! Schultz said he would like to see the housing restrict~d to Seniors. Spellman asked if a hospital needs to be accessible. ~ielsen said Waconia and Methodist are available. I I Nielsen said a permanent elderly housing committee canl be established or it can be a sub-committee of the Planning Commission. L Schultz said the Senior Housing Task Force had a lot of intelligent, enthusiastic members and they should be utilized. ! Council Liaison Stover said many members of the Task Frrce would like to take on other specific tasks the City identifies conce ning Senior Housing. Schultz and Leslie said they should develop a policy s atement. Nielsen said the staff can prepare a policy for diScus~ion and determine the size of the committee. The Planning Commission ca then discuss this at their next meeting. . , , I Leslie asked if developers have been interested in bUi~ding housing in Shorewood. I Nielsen said the City has had inquiries by a developerl with knowledge in this field. I this type of considerable , Commissioner Pitney asked if the City can give prioritv to Shorewood residents in these developments? Nielsen said the fair housing regulations still apply but he will check into it. ! j Leslie asked what the next step will be to keep the project going. Nielsen said the commission should accept the Senior H~using Report and have the staff prepare it's recommendations. Spellman moved, Pitney seconded, to recommend the Cityl Council accept the Senior Housing Market Research Task Force Summary Report, dated May 1991. Motion carried - 7/0 I Commissioner Rosenberger asked about the Metropolitan ouncil involvement. He would like to see some coordination between municip lities. Spellman moved, Pitney seconded to direct the staff to provide information on Senior Housing at the Planning Commission study ses ion on June 18th. Motion carried - 7/0 MA TI.E~S_".x.RQ.M......lli~."_f..LQQR There were no matters from the floor. REPORT~ Stover reported that the City is requesting input from adjacent cities regarding the salt shed. She said it may be done in 1991. c::- ~! . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 1991 COUNCIL 1AMBERS 5755 COU RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 6 , Nielsen said the grading will be done. He said next y~ar the City may be able to do the garage and the salt shed. I Stover reported that the safehits in the Amesbury areal were cut by the snowplow. The City will continue installing these. I She reported on the resolutions passed concerning the ~ld Market Road intersection and the bond sale agreement for the waterford III Phase. I I ADJOURNMENT Benson moved, Leslie seconded, to adjourn the meeting ~t 9:40 P.M. RESP~CTrULL Y _g.Y._t!.~~IT...E.P.. Katie Snyder Recording Secretary 6 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY,JULY 2, 1991 COUNCILu1AMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 , I M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.~. ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson, Commiss'oners Leslie, Bongaards, Pitney, Schultz, Rosenber er and Planner Nielsen and Councilmember Gagne substituting for Stover). Absent: Commissioner Spellman APPROVAL OF MINUTES Schultz moved, Bongaards seconded to approve the Planning Commission minutes of June 4, 1991. Motion carried - 6/0 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE Applicant: Location: Kevin and Gerri Kuester 5885 Christmas Lake Road Benson called the Public Hearing to order at 7:38 P.M. Planner Nielsen presented the Kuester's request for se variance. He said the Kuesters propose to build a 6 ft. wide wal front of their house that will encroach into the front setback rea. The walkway will bridge a drainage swale in their yard. Nielsen said the Kuesters have done a good job of fitt~ng the house into the topography of the lot. He recommended granting th' variance because the house cannot be pushed farther back on the lot. I Nielsen said the City should review the requirements fdr walkways in the front yard setbacks. I Benson asked if anyone from the audience wanted to spe~k. I I , STEVE BRUCE - BUILDER Je said the water Bruce said much of the walkway is actually driveway. from the swale must flow over the walkway. 1 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 2, 1991 - PAGE 2 The Public Hearing was closed at 7:45 P.M. Commissioner Leslie said she was concerned about a gua walkway. Nielsen said a guardrail is not required by the buildi the Commissioner Schultz stated that some residents have b required to remove trees to accommodate the setback requirements. asked Nielsen if granting this variance would set a precedent. Nielsen said it would not. He said some people have h~ to change their plans, but it does not often happen. I Nielsen stated that the house cannot be seen from the ~oad and if a guardrail was added, it would be more noticeable. I He also said the Council should take into consideratio~ the shallowness and shape of the Kuester's lot when considering the va~iance. ! Leslie moved, Rosenberger seconded, to recommend the Cilty Council grant a variance to the setback requirement for walkways for Kevin and Gerri Kuester. Motion carried - 5/1 (Schultz) Benson said the request would be presented to the City ICouncil at their July 22 meeting. 7:45 PUBLIC HEARING - P.U.D. CONCEPT STAGE APPROVAL Applicant: Location: Boyer Building Corporation Lawtonka Drive ~IDEON'S COjlE Benson called the public hearing to order at 7:53 P.M. Nielsen explained that the Boyer Construction Company ~as submitted a new proposal for the Gideon's Cove project. The new project would have 14 units in 7 buildings wit one common open space. He said one lot bordering the development is n t currently controlled by the Boyers. Nielsen said a Comprehensive Plan amendment is not nee~ed because the developers have kept with the three units per acre req1irement. Nielsen said the following problems must be resolved: . There will be an increase in traffic. Niels~n handed the Commission the City Engineer's traffic repor~. There is still a problem with proximity of t~e buildings to each other and to the street. Nielsen said ~f existing trees are retained. they will break UP appea~ance of crowding. He said Boyer decided not to move the buildi~gs away from the street in order to preserve the trees at the Irear of the property. . There is a concern about room for snowplowin~ and guest parking on Lawtonka Road. 1 . 2. 3. 2 . . . Lot t 6 will not be part of the P.U.D unless1the Boyers it or the City rezones the property. It is till zoned family. . There is a question whether the property sho~ld hook up City water. I The density of the project may still be a PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 2, 1991 - PAGE 3 4. 5. 6. JOHN BLUMENTRITT - BOYER CONSTRUCTION obtain single to pr9blem. I I I Mr. Blumentritt said the developers are staying within Ithe guidelines of the Shorewood Comprehensive Plan. He said the develop~ent area is designated low to medium density housing. The total s uare footage of the property is 170.000. The buildings actually comprise 15% of the site. , I He said the buildings will have 24 ft. between them anq many of the trees on the site will be retained. I Blumentritt said the traffic will flow from HwY 19 and ITimber Lane to Lawtonka Rd. He said there should not be a problem with the increased traffic. Benson asked if anyone in the audience wanted to speak., Benson left the meeting at 8:30 P.M. DAN PUZAK - 23830 SMITHTOWN ROAD I , Mr. Puzak said, if the square footage of the peninsula lis taken out. the proposed project is too dense for the area. He said t~e area is zoned R-2A and there are two duplexes and the remainder are ~ingle family homes. . Puzak said the property was zoned R-1C for single fami~y luxury homes and the developer received the neighbors support for t~at project. He said the houses are too close to Lawtonka and the developer will not be able to control who buys these units except in their m rketing approach. He thinks the project is degrading and asked the commi sion to deny the proposed P.U.D. for Gideon's Cove. STEVE HASKINS - 5455 TIMBER LANE ' Haskins agreed with Mr. Puzak. He said the Boyers are Inot actively trying to market the lots as single family lots. He sa~d the City should reconsider the project. I BAG DONS - TIMBER LANE Mr. Bagdons said there are many accidents at the intersection of Timber Lane and HwY. 19. He said the City should consider th~s problem. Bagdons also asked if the rest of the neighborhood hook UP to City water. < ~ Wil1 be required to I I . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 2, 1991 - PAGE 4 DAVE TRUAX - BURNETT REALTY Truax said the opponents of a project are usually the 1. st vocal. He said the type of housing presented for this project is hat people are looking for, at this time. He said luxury single famil homes are not economical. at this time. MIKE ARVIDSON - 5595 TIMBER LANE I Arvidson said the density of the project is too high fot a single family residential area. He said the project should not be re1commended. JOE BOYER - BOYER CONSTRUCTION I Boyer said the proposed project is a better use of the Iland and fits within the Comprehensive Plan guidelines. I ROB SCHULTZ - 23780 SMITHTOWN RD. I Schultz said large single family homes may not be the ~st idea for the project. He said 10 to 12 units would lower the densit of the project. Schultz said there is the possibility that the neighbo ood could have lake access from the peninsula. I DON SHAVER - 23880 SMITHTOWN ROAD Shaver said the neighbors have covered most of his objections to the project. He said the zoning of the land should remain the same. BOB BOYER - BOYER CONSTRUCTION Boyer said the P.U.D. covenants have many protections flor the neighborhood. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 9:05 P.M. I Commissioner Leslie asked Nielsen what the Commission ~ould be approving in a concept plan. Nielsen said the Commission should look at how many unilts are proposed, the design of the unit and how much open space is planned and other factors. I Commissioner Rosenberger asked about the question of Cilty water. Nielsen said the neighbors will not be required to hoo~ up but will be charged $4000.00 if they decide to do it. STEVE HASKINS - said the density should be determined ~y all the contiguous property and exclude the peninsula. I Commissioner Pitney said two units would be dropped if Ithe peninsula was excluded. He also asked about park dedication fees. I Nielsen said 7 more fees will be paid. 4 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 2. 1991 - PAGE 5 Commissioner Schultz asked how this plan fits in better than the plan that was previously approved. He said District 7 is al!ready a diverse area and he does not see that this plan improves the d~versity. Schultz said the traffic from HwY 19 onto Timber Lane "s a hazard and Timber Lane is a substandard road. Schultz moved. Rosenberger seconded. to recommend the ity Council deny the concept plan presented by Boyer Construction for G"deon's Cove. Motion carried - 4/1 (Rosenberger) the density i Isue has never and has been ,rought up by the Rosenberger said he is irritated because been properly addressed by the developer Planning Commission twice. Pitney said the density issue is still a problem. the site and traffic will always be an issue. i He ~aid he looked at I Blumentritt asked if the project would be acceptable i~ the density issue was addressed. Rosenberger asked if he met with the neighbors. Leslie said two Planning Commission members and with the neighborhood. She said she would have recommended approval if units. Boyer ~onstruction met the deqsity were 10 I said the following criteria should be addr1ssed by the I Rosenberger developer: 1. Lower density to 10-11 units. 2. Common access to the peninsula 3. Establishment of a neighborhood association. 4. The developer should pay for the watermain e~tension the service to the neighborhood. and offer Council Liaison Gagne said the density of the project the City Council. ias a problem with STUDY SESSION - ELDERLy' HOUSING Nielsen said the Comprehensive Plan does not provide fqr elderly housing. He said a statement of the City's plan for tijis type of housing needs to be developed. I Nielsen said the Senior Housing Task Force stated that Ithe population of elderly citizens will rise in Shorewood and Tonka Bay ~nd that people are interested in a smaller or step down type of house~ The Task Force identified a potential 600 residents who would move in~o this type of housing immediately. I He said Hennepin County has talked to the City about a!South Shore Senior Housing project. Nielsen thought the City shou~d look into this idea. 5 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 2. 1991 - PAGE 6 Gagne said the Task Force was consistently told by resi~ents that a stepdown type of house that was affordable is what the~ want. I Nielsen said the study indicated that a price range Of,UP to $500 was affordable to 24% of the people studied. 30% could aff rd $500 to $999. 14% - $1000 - $1500 and 18% $1500 and over. Pi tney asked if there will be restrictions on the sale lof the homes to people who are not elderly. i Nielsen said the changes to the Zoning Ordinance can a~dress this issue. I Nielsen said the Planning Commission can have a study slession on July 16th on the Elderly Housing issue. Schultz said the City should have an aggressive public~tion of any public hearing on this issue. because of the impact on Isurrounding neighborhoods. I I Nielsen said an Elderly Housing Committee can be a sUb1committee of the Planning Commission. i MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR. There were no matters from the floor. REPORTS There were no reports. ADJOURNMENT Pitney moved. Leslie seconded. to adjourn the meeting 10:36 P.M. Motion carried - 6/0 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED Katie Snyder Recording Secretary 6 I I I CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY. JULY 30. 1991 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER COUNCIL C.L"'-'ERS 5755 CO~CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.MI' ROLL CALL Planning Commission Chairman Benson. commiss~.oners Leslie. Bongaards. Spellman. Pitney, Schultz. Planner Nielsen, Council Liaison Stover and ouncil- member Gagne. Commissioner Rosenberger Present: Absent: Commissioner Pitney arrived at 7:43 P.M. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Planninq Commission Minutes - July' 2. l:::nni~g Leslie moved, Bongaard$ seconded, to approve the minutes of July 2, 1991. Motion carried - 5/0 1. STUDY SESSION - ELDERLY HOUSING Commission Planner Nielsen presented his memo of July 2, 1991 regarding the Elderly Housing - Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance Amend~ents. The following issues were discussed: 1. Comprehensive Plan 2. Sr. Housing issues. 3. Goal or goals of elderly housing 4. Policy recommendations. 5. Zoning Ordinance amendments. 6. Senior Housing Commission. ISSUES Nielsen said the Senior Task Force Study had identified~' the fact that there is limited housing available for the elderly in S orewood. There is only one 18 unit apartment building and no smaller 0 "step-down" housing, as recommended by the Study. I He said the Study indicated that the elderly want to st~y in the area and want affordable housing. . 1 I I I PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 30, 1991 - PAGE 2 The Shorewood Zoning Codes already provide for. a variet~ of housing needs. Nielsen said projects could be developed that will fit into the surrounding neighborhoods. GOALS E:dstinq Compo F:lan: "Provide a full range of equal opportunity, choice and accessibility to services for each individual in Sh!orewood." , I Proposed re: Elderlu "Provide housing opportunities and services to ensure that senior citizens can remain a part of the community." Nielsen said the Planning Commission or Elderly Housing Commission can redefine these goals. POLICIES Nielsen reviewed the policies stated in the July 2 mem~. ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS The Housing Needs Study identified three types of elderly: housing for the ! I Idetached. This 1. Smaller units on smaller lots, either attached or type of housing was most popular in the survey. Senior apartments. Care facilities. ...... L. - ..::. . I Nielsen said the R-3B district is currently the only di~trict in Shorewood that can accommodate elderly housing and the1e is no land zoned R-3B or proposed to be zoned R-3B. I The current definition of elderly housing was changed ty the Commission members: "A public agency owned or controlled multiple-dwelling building with open occupancy 1 i mi ted to persons over si :.:ty years of ~ge." The Commission deleted" multiple-dwelling building" and! substituted single family attached units. The members said "publig agency owned or controlled" should be redefined according to the Feder~l Fair Housing Act. They also agreed that the occupancy should be li~ited to persons over si :-:ty two years of age. ! I The Planning Commission discussed the possibility of alilowing one spouse under 62 years of age but dec i ded to I eave the age I i milt at 62. The Federal Fair Housing Act states that persons under 62 must have specific services provided. ! 2 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 30, 1991 - PAGE 3 I R-IA. SINGLE-FAHILV RESIDENTIAL The Planning Commission members agreed that elderly hou~ing should be provided within existing zoning districts. I I I They agreed that elderly housing should be: 1. By P.U.D. Limited to 62 years of age The caret.aker should also be 62 years and occupan~y should be defined according to the existing code. ! The owner, association or agency must file a resu~e of occupancy of each building listing the number of tenants by age in each anit. Many of t.he Commission members stated there shoul be two parking spaces per unit and possibly provide spac for one garage per unit. I Nielsen said most elderly housing units have only one parking space to keep the cost affordable. However, he s~id the City could provide incentives for developers to prOVidf garages. The density of the development in the Rl-A distri t shall not exceed 4 units per acre and 8 units in the Rl-C. However, the minimum parcel size should be 4 acres. , I ! '? ..:... - ....1. 4. 5. 6. R-3A. MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDEN~IAL The Commission members district under C.U.P. However, group housing I agreed to provide for nursing ho~es in this They deleted the mention of grou~ housing. is covered under State guidelines. Nielsen asked the Commission if they wanted to recommen~ rezoning areas of the City to R-3A or R-3b. The Commission said that ~hould wait until a developer makes a proposal. i I Nielsen said he will incorporoate the Commission's recomfendations into the Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinances and presen~ them at the August 6th Planning Commission meeting. i He said a Public Hearing will have to be held to finalire these changes. SENIOR HOUSING AND SERVICES COMMISSION Nielsen said the staff suggested that the Senior Housinl~ Committee established as a separate Commission and include seniorl services. Housing recommendations will be reviewed by the Planning Commission first. i be He presented five purposes of the Commission: i I Senior H~USing Needs 1. Incorporate the Policy Statements of the Study. Recommend amendments to the Senior Housing Sectio~ of the Compo Plan. .., ..:... - 0.) PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 30, 1991 - PAGE 4 III ~ ..) . Recommend proposal s that come before the PI anni ng !Commi ssi on relating to Senior Housing and Services. ! Report on the affect of various issues and policies on senior citizens as requested by the City Council. Develop and recommend a process to the City Council for updating the housing needs of senior citizens. 4. c:- w. Commissioners Pitney and Schultz said a Commission should not address the needs of one specific group. Council Liaison Stover said the group should be a Task Force with specific tasks and goals. I ! The Planning Commission agreed the senior group should ~e the Senior Housing and Services Task Force with items 1 through 4 ~s it's goals. There will be 7 members who are residents of Shorewood.! The Council 1 i ai son wi 11 be Counci I member Gagne, staff 1 i ai son wi III be Ni el sen and the PI ann i ng Commi ssi on 1 i ai son wi II be desi gnated as n!eeded. '? MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR ..:... There were no matters from the floor. 3. REPORTS I Tllere were no reports. 4. ADJOURNMENT Schultz moved, Benson seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 9:50P.M. Motion carried - 6/0 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED I<atie Snyder Recording Secretary I 4 . . . e f Tt ttf sH6i{E\fOOfi PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, AUGUST 6, 1991 I COUNCIL.ERS 5755 CO Y CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 I ! M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.~. ! ROLL CALL ~' Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson. Commissioners Leslie. Spellman. Pitney. Schultz. Rosenberg r, Planner Nielsen and Council Liaison Stover Absent: Commissioner Bongaards I 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Planning Commission Minutes - July 30. 1991 Spellman moved. Pitney seconded. to approve the July 39' 1991 Planning Commission Minutes. Motion carried - 6/0 I 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - SETBACK VARIANCE Applicant: Location: Robert Dircks 5351 Shady Hills Circle Planner Nielsen presented the Dircks' request. They h~ve requested a setback variance to build a deck on the rear side of t~eir home. Nielsen said the topography of the lot is severe and t e lot is extremely shallow. The land south of the property is designated wetland area and it is unlikely that houses will be bui!lt on it. He said it is reasonable that the Dircks should want s~me recreational area besides that abutting the road. I Nielsen said the property is almost unbuildable and re~ommended granting the variance. I i ROBERT DIRCKS 5351 SHADY HILLS CIRCLE Dircks said a variance was given to build the deck whe~ the house was built but the deck was never completed. The public hearing was closed at 8:40 P.M. Commissioner Schultz asked Nielsen when this lot was pl!atted. Nielsen said it was platted in the 60's but the house ~as not built until 1989. ! Schultz asked if there was any suggestion at the time ~t was platted that this is an unbuildable lot. ' 1 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 6. 1991- PAGE 2 Nielsen said the minutes of the meeting do not indicatl that but a deck was taken into consideration when the Variance for the house was processed. Ron and Dee Johnson of 5355 Shady Hills Circle wrote a letter of objection to the variance. Nielsen said it is unlikely that houses will be built the Dircks. If the Johnsons want to build on their lot. t need access from Shady Hills Circle. Schultz questioned the hardship involved in the varian e and if they Dircks have made reasonable use of the property. He t ought the deck could be built on the lower level and be less of a sit intrusion. Commissioners Benson and Leslie said the matter was st ictly a topography and setback question. i Robert Dircks and his contractor said the deck could b~ built on the lower level but the lower level space is not finished. I Leslie said the Dircks would still need a variance whe~her they built on the upper or lower level. She questioned the Planning ICommission's ability to control what people build. I Nielsen said the Planning Commission has control over 1he variance requests. They can table this request and ask for a r design or act on the current request. , Spellman moved. Benson seconded. to recommend the City ICouncil approve the setback variance to build a deck for Mr. & Mrs. Ro~ert Dircks on the rear of their house at 5351 Shady Hills Circle. I Motion carried - 5/1 (Schultz) on a roll call vote. 7:45 PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. - ACCESSORY SPACE IN EXCE~S OF 1200 sa. FT. Applicant: Ivan Kruger Location: 5135 St. Albans Bay Road The public hearing was opened at 8:00 P.M. Nielsen presented Mr. Kruger's request. Mr. Kruger prqposes to add on to his existing home at 5135 St. Albans Bay Road. He a~so proposes to add a two car tuck-under garage and combine this space with his existing garage. However. this combination will exceed the 120 square ft. of accessory spaced allowable for R-1C districts. , Nielsen explained that Kruger's request can be allowed lunder the zoning ordinance subject to a number of conditions and Kruger meets these conditions. Kruger also plans to add an RV shelter to the existing garage but the square footage will still be within the zoning limits. Nielsen recommended the Commission approve the request" ~ ~ . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 6. 1991- PAGE 3 The public hearing was closed at 8:05 P.M. Spellman moved. Rosenberger seconded, to recommend the approve the C.U.P. for accessory space for Ivan Kruger Albans Bay Road. , ! Fity Council ~t 5135 St. I Motion carried - 6/0 on a roll call vote. 8:00 PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - "ST ETS" DEFINITION The public hearing was opened at 8:07 P.M. Nielsen said the zoning ordinance amendment defines substitutes street for R.O.W in the ordinance. sttet i and JOHN EINHORN - 5580 HOWARDS POINT ROAD Einhorn objected to the amendment for two reasons: 1. It restricts his ability to build a new home. 2. The code does not need to be clarified. . Council Liaison Stover said there has been much diSCuss~'on about the definition of street, so the Council and City Attorney ecided to clarify the definition. ; She said the question in the Einhorn variances has beerl whether Island View Road is a street or a lot. E Commissioner Rosenberger said he was sYmpathetic with inhorn and asked if his request could be resubmitted. Stover said Einhorn's request was denied under the pre ious ordinance. MRS EINHORN - said Island View is not a public street maintained by the City. it is not Leslie and Nielsen said it has always been the City's policy to consider a private road with three or more houses a public stre t. , Nielsen said the Commission could discuss the possibi 1 i!ty of a lesser setback for private roads. However, this wi 11 require la change in the ordinance and an argument can be made for increasing r~ther than decreasing the setback requirements. , Commissioner Spellman said Island View is a street by ~sage. JERRY BRECKE - 27450 PINE BEND ROAD ! ! Brecke said the commission is changing the zoning stru~ture and the people living along Island View will be affected and t~ere could be significant changes for the future. i The public hearing was closed at 8:35 P.M. '. . . . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 6. 1991- PAGE 4 Nielsen said the people on Island View have observed a 50 ft. setback from the road. Rosenberger said the timing of this amendment is poor. Spellman moved. Pitney seconded. to recommend the City Council approve the Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment defining "streets".1 Motion carried - 6/0 on a roll call vote. STUDY SESSION - ELDERLY HOUSING The report on the elderly housing Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance Amendments was postponed until the Aug. 20th IPlanning Commission meeting, I MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR There were no matters from the floor. REPORTS Stover reported that the Council has had a series of S~UdY sessions. The Council has decided to retain Orr. Schelen. Mayero as City Engineers. They have not decided on the City Attorney. ADJOURNMENT Schultz moved. Leslie seconded. to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 P.M. Motion carried - 6/0 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED Katie Snyder Recording Secretary 4 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1991 COUNCIL_~~AMBERS ~7~~ COU~RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 I M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson, Commiss Leslie, Bongaards, Schultz, Rosenberger, Planner Nielsen and Council Liaison Stover Absent: Commissioners Spellman and Pitney. APPROVAL OF MINUTES There were no minutes for approval. 1 . 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - P.U.D. CONCEPT STAGE APPROV L GIDEON'S COVE Applicant: Location: Boyer Building Corporation Lawtonka Drive Planner Nielsen explained the request by Boyer BU~lding Corp. for approval of their revised P.U.D. concept stag plan. He said Boyer has revised the plan to include 12 nits instead of the previous 14 and has incorporated additiona~ setbacks. BOB BOYER - BOYER BUILDING Boyer explained the concept stage process which t~ey have presented to the Planning Commission. j' He said the original concept plan was denied beca se the dens ity was too high at 3.8 units per acre, the driveways were too short and there was concern about the use of the penins la. He said traffic was a concern but it was thought that could be managed. The second plan incorporated 3.3 units per acre aJd the driveways were lengthened. 11 The area neighbors objected to this plan because df the visual impact and the traffic problem. At that time the IPlan called for the peninsula to be owned by two of the units. The current plan has 12 units and brings the densilty to 2.8 units per acre. The buildings are spread out witH 30 ft. between the homes. Boyer said this should decrease the t~affic. The peninsula will be owned by an association andAlmonitored by them. There will be room for 6 boats on the penindula. This will not increase the current dockage. 1 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 3. 1991 PAGE 2 . The public hearing was opened at 7:47 P.M. Commissioner Leslie asked Boyer if he had talked to the' neighbors. Boyer said he thought they had dealt with the concerns of the neighbors and expected to see them at the public hearing tonight. Leslie also asked how they will determine who obtains Boyer said the docks will be offered to the first purc He said any future sale of a unit will not guarantee a be a rotation of rights. ock rights. asers of units. dock. There will Commissioner Schultz asked home many single family hom s had been approved for this property. I Boyer said 6 single family homes had been previously a~proved. Schultz asked Nielsen if the problems had been addresse~. Nielsen said the setbacks have been addressed and the ~uildings are spread apart. However. traffic is still a concern and a tree invento~y has to be done to save the mature trees on the property. , Schultz asked Nielsen if the common use of the peninsulla is setting a precedent for increased dockage on the lake. . Nielsen said the LMCD and DNR allow common Management Plan. The plan allows one boat and the Boyer plan meets this requirement. Schultz said there should be no increase in dockage and this restriction should be put in the P.U.D. agreement. ' He said he has reservations about agreeing to the incl~sion of the peninsula for dockage in this project. He said it cou~d set a precedent because the two parts are non-contiguous. use of land lin the Shore land for every 5q ft. of shoreline I Nielsen said the peninsula was previously tied to the property by City so the property could be restricted from multiple IdOCkage. ! reasonable use of the property does not include boat the Schultz said dockage. Nielsen said vacant lots. he does not think this will open up reque~ts for dockage on I Schultz asked Mr. Shafer about his property which is a1jacent to the Boyer development. He said Shafer's property should b part of the Boyer development. Shafer said he has no plans to be part of the developm~nt. Boyer said it would be advantageous for Shafer to be part of the project. . Commissioner Benson said with the Shafer property left lout of the development they could have the same problem the City ~as with the Johnson property in Waterford. ' Nielsen said the City should rezone Shafer's property. 2 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 3, 1991 PAGE 3 ~ John Boyer pointed out that surrounding properties are Izoned R-2. ! Schultz said he still questions why single family housilng can't be built. Bob Boyer said upper bracket single family housing is t"ffiCUlt to market today. He said there is a need for the villa t pe housing they propose and the mass is not much greater than if there ere single family houses. It is a type of housing the City does ot have. Schultz said he does not feel Boyer addressed resident~s concerns and that the neighbors are worn down from the many meeting concerning this project. I ! Boyer said that single family housing has been predomi~ant for 20 to 30 years but the elderly population is growing and the villla type of housing is popular. i ! Dave Truax - Realtor agreed with Boyer's statement. ae said in the past three years the sale of single family homes has d~opped. Schultz said the City is taking the risk in approving ~his P.U.D. is no guarantee this type of house will sell in this a~ea. There John Blumentritt - said this type of housing has been ~uilt in surrounding communities and is successful. There have lalready been inquiries. . Commissioner Rosenberger asked if there is a house on ~he Boyer property. Boyer said there is a house and it will be torn down. Resident - Boyer said Leslie and system but asked if City water will be installed. water will be installed in the development. ' Council Liaison Stover said the resident ma~ hook-up to the will have to pay a hook-up charge. I I very att~active and he is issue to ikeep the project Chairman Benson said the Boyer development is willing to compromise a little on the density going. Mr. Shafer - looked at the model of the project and sa~d he thought this plan would add twice the population with more noise and traffic. The Publ ic portion of the Hearing was closed at 8: 30 P .IM. Blumentritt asked the Commission to approve or deny th~ request with contingencies so they could revise the plan. Bongaards moved, Leslie seconded, to recommend the City Council approve the revised P.U.D. concept stage plan for Gideon's Cove, Boyer Building, subject to a detailed tree inventory and the provision Ithat there be no increase in the dockage. ~ Motion carried - 3/2 (Rosenberger, Schultz) "'J' 0_' . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 3. 1991 PAGE 4 Stover asked Rosenberger and Rosenberger said he objected builder did not consult with Schultz why they voted to Ideny the project. to the density and was ir~itated that the I the neighbors. I , process of noti~ication to the the neighbors tlat the peninsula Schultz said he is concerned about the neighborhood. The notice did not tell will be used differently. i Nielsen said this can be noted and the Council can den~ the request. if they wish. I I Schultz said he still does not see anything wrong withlthe current plan for the development. He said the density is too high 4nd he is concerned about higher lake usage. He said there are already two marinas in the area. Leslie said she voted aye because she agrees with the plan conceptually and thinks there should be some compromises. She would have preferred 10 units. Both Leslie and Bongaards voted aye partly because of ~he reputation of Boyer Building for quality development. 2. 7:45 PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY PLAT - NEITGE A~DITION Applicant: Location: Jim and Barb Neitge 25985 Smithtown Road The public hearing was opened at 8:40 P.M. Nielsen presented the Neitge proposal. They propose tQ divide their two acre property into three lots. The lots meet or exceeq the zoning requirements for the R-1C district. There is an eXist1ng garage on one lot which must be moved within six months or an escrow amount of $1000 paid. I I Mr. Neitge had nothing further to add. I B. C. WERTZ - RESIDENT asked if the cul-de-sac problemlhad been addressed. He said people travel down the dead end st~eet and turn around in their driveway. Benson said the City cannot expect the Neitge's to protide a cul-de-sac for the entire street. I The public hearing was closed at 8:55 P.M. Schultz moved, Rosenberger seconded to recommend the C~ty Council approve the subdivision of the Neitge property into th~ee lots. subject to the City Planner's recommendations. I Motion carried - 5/0 on a roll call vote. 4 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 3, 1991 PAGE 5 3. 8:00 PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT i ELDERLY HOUSING I The public hearing was called at 9:00 P.M. Benson said the Zoning Ordinance is being amended to a~commodate elderly housing in Shorewood. I Nielsen said the amendment was reviewed by the new City Attorney and he had two revisions. i 1. Where the term Federal Fair Housing Act is used t~ere should be a reference to the Statute. I The Attorney was also concerned about enforcement lof the amendment. He suggested there be a statement on the deed ind~cating that the housing is restricted to elderly as defined by th~ Shorewood City Code. ' 2. MR. REUTIMAN MEMBER ELDERLY HOUSING TASK FORCE Reutiman asked if the covenants will cover all the uni~s. Nielsen said the individual projects can decide how to Ihandle such issues as visitors. This amendment addresses occupancy. I Councilmember Gagne asked how the City should now proc~ed to keep the project moving forward. Nielsen said as soon as the amendment is passed, the C~ty should decide how much they want to be involved in the projects. Nidlsen said there have already been private inquiries about the project. I The Planning Commission decided not to designate speci~ic sites for Elderly Housing but let the developers inquire about vqrious sites. Leslie moved, Rosenberger seconded, to recommend the C~ty Council adopt the Amendment to the Shorewood City Zoning Code to allQw for Elderly Housing subject to the changes recommended by the CitylAttorney, Motion carried - 5/0 Stover asked the members of the Senior Housing Task FoJce if this amendment seemed reasonable to them. I Reutiman said it is a good start and another member sajd the City should be concerned about keeping the cost of the housing rea~onable. Rosenberger asked how the developers are aware of the ~itylS interest. Nielsen said two developers have already inquired. He said one developer can make a presentation in October. SENIOR HOUSING COMMITTEE Nielsen said the Planning Commission previously discussed the make up of the Committee and its goal. 5 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 3. 1991 PAGE 6 He said the committee could have three goals. 1. Look at how projects fit with the community. 2. If they are a good project 3. Services to provide to the elderly. There should be a time frame for the committee It should be a 7 member committee and they would recommendations through the Planning Commission. make tieir because s04e of the Rosenberger said there should be alternates residents leave during the winter. Gagne agreed with this. The Commission decided the members should be 55 or old 'r and a Shorewood resident The Planning Commission decided to call the committee. the Senior Housing and Services Task Force and it should serve fo two years with a renewable option. The Committee should meet on the third Tuesday of each month at 6:30 P.M. GARAGE SALE COMPLAINT - SHAFER LETTER Nielsen said Mr. Shafer complained about a continuing garage sale on Smi thtown Rd. across the street from his house. The Cilty Counci I referred the matter to the Planning Commission to deci~e if an Ordinance should be written to cover the frequency of garage sal~s. the kinds of items offered for sale and traffic problems. I Nielsen said the staff contacted seven Cities to inqui~e about regulation of garage sales and only two do this. The Commission agreed that the matter should be looked linto. Nielsen said he will write a report on the subject. 4 . MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR, There were no matters from the floor. 5 . REPORTS There were no reports. Commissioners Pitney and Spellman will be leaving the Rlanning Commission. Leslie said she will be absent on the 1st and 15th of dctober. there may not be a quorum for the October meetings. I The next meeting on Oct. 1st will start at 6:30 P.M. 6 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1991 COUNCILuiAMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.~. ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson. Commiss~oners Bongaards. Spellman. Schultz. Rosenberger. Planner Nielsen and Council Liaison Stover Absent: Commissioner Leslie APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Planning Commission Minutes of September 3. ~991 Schultz moved, Bongaards seconded to approve the Septe~er 3, 1991 Planning Commission Minutes with the fol~owing correct~on: 1. Pg. 3 - motion - Bongaards moved not Benson. Motion carried - 5/0 1. 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P.- ACCESSORY SPACE IN ~XCESS OF 1200 sa. FT.. . Applicant: Location: Paul Bardine 6085 Riviera Lane Planner Nielsen explained Bardine's request. Mr. Bardine is requesting a modification of his C.U.P. to build 9 utility' shed on his property at 6085 Riviera Lane. The ne~ building is 1~' ~ 14' and ~ontains 168 sq. ft. of area. It willI have the same sldlng and Shlngles as the existing house. I Nielsen said Bardine meets all the necessary criteria for granting the C.U.P. as stated in his report and he recomme~ds approval. I Paul Bardine stated that Nielsen explained his re1uest . satisfactorily. He indicated he will be using the shed for storage of small vehicles. . Spellman moved, Bongaards seconded to recommend the Ci~y Council approve the C.U.P. for accessory space in excess of 1200 sq. f~. for Paul Bardine, 6086 Riviera Lane. ' Motion carried - 5/0 on a roll call vote. 1 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 1. 1991 - PAGE 2 Chairman Benson informed Bardine that his request will Ibe forwarded to the City Council at their Oct. 14, 1991 meeting. Council Liaison Stover informed Bardine that a 4/5 votd of the City Council is required to pass this C.U.P. She said she ~ill not be present at the Oct. 14th City Council meeting and he c~n choose to present his request at another City Council meeting. I 2. 7:40 PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. - ACCESSORY SPACE IN !EXCESS OF 1200 sa. FT. Applicant: Location: Richard Baker 5235 Howards Point Road Nielsen explained that Baker's request met all the criteria for granting a C.U.P. for accessory space as stated in his report. He said Baker is building a family room addition ontq his house and will also build an attached garage. I Richard Baker - said he just purchased the house ~t 5235 Howards Point Road and would like to tear down the detach~d garage and add an attached garage to the house. Spellman moved. Bongaards seconded to recommend the Ci~Y Council approve the C.U.P. for accessory space for Richard Baker at 5245 Howards Point Road. Motion carried - 5/0 on a roll call vote. 3. DISCUSSION - GARAGE SALES Nielsen said he originally queried 7 cities regarqing their garage sale restrictions and expanded that to twelve co~unities. He said only two cities, Edina and Hopkins had more than ~ignage restrictions. Hopkins allows only two sales per year. Edina al~ows only one sale of no more than 72 consecutive hours and does not lallow consignment or resale items. ! Nielsen said the complaint the City received fromlMr. Shafer was legitimate. however. there have been few other co~plaints. He said the house mentioned in the complaint is ori HwY. 19. The sale was shut down last year because they sold cOlsignment and resale items. However, this year there have been ,no violations. I Benson said, if an ordinance is in place, then an~ violations can be handled. ! Nielsen said a permit system would be hard to adm~nister. He said complainants must be willing to identify themselves so that the complaint can be documented. 2 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 1. 1991 - PAGE 3 Stover said there are laws In place to handle gar~ge sales. She said there are enough laws on the books. Commissioner Schultz agreed with Benson that some ltype of regulation should be passed. He said restricting Isales to twice a year would be a start. Commissioner Bongaards said she had a problem wit~ the restrictions. I Commissioner Rosenberger said the burden of proof Ishould not be on the complainant. He said the City should have so~e mechanism for documenting the complaint. i Stover said the City could define a garage sale a1'd if a sale did not meet the criteria then it could be defined as a business and require a business permit. Nielsen said the City usually does not regulate tHrough definition. Schultz moved. Spellman seconded to recommend the Plan~er draft an ordinance similar to Ordinance No. 1351 of the Edina C~ty Code that restricts garage sales to two sales per year of no mor~ than 72 consecutive hours each. Motion carried - 3/2 (Bongaards. Rosenberger) 4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR There were no matters from the floor. 5 . REPORTS Stover reported on the discussion at the City Courlcil meeting of Sept. 30th regarding the Gideon's Cove project. ahe said the Council could not come to a conclusion regarding tihe dock rights and another vote will be taken Oct. 14th. ' She said Boyer Construction will be presenting th~ir development stage plan to the Planning Commission which shou14 include restrictions on the use of the peninsula. ' She said the City will have an informational meet~ng regarding water installation on Nov. 4th and a meeting on Ndv. 18th to present the Capital Improvement Plan. Stover said written information will be mailed to residents prior to the meeting and a survey of 200 residents will be done. 6 . ADJOURNMENT Schultz moved. Bongaards seconded to adjourn the meeting at 9:05 P.M. Motion carried - 5/0 "" "-' . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1991 COUNCIL~AMBERS 5755 CO RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.~. I i Benson, commiss~oners and Planner Niel!sen. ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Leslie, Schultz, Rosenberger Absent: Commissioner Bongaards. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Planning Commission Minutes October 1, 1991 I Schultz moved. Rosenberger seconded to approve the PlaJning Commission Minutes of Oct. 1, 1991. Motion carried - 4/0 1 I Leslie moved. Rosenberger seconded to approve the follqwing Planning Commission Minutes: 1. 2. 3, 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. July 17, 1990 August 7. 1990 August 21. 1990 October 2, 1990 January 15, 1991 May 21. 1991 August 6. 1991 September 3, 1991 Motion carried 0 4/0 1. 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY PLAT - SHOREWOO ESTATES Applicant: Location: North Suburban Development, Inc. I West of Strawberry Lane, 420 ft. squth of Smithtown Rd. Benson opened the Public Hearing at 7:30 P.M. i Nielsen presented the preliminary plat apPlicatioJ" He said the City Council granted final plat approval for this development in September of 1990. At that time, the developer ws unable to obtain a Letter of Credit and the final plat was not recorded wi th the County. i The developer wants to reprocess the preliminary ~lat application. There have been no changes to the original plat. ~ A letter of credit has been provided and the deve oper has signed a development agreement. Some preliminary grading as started on the i 1 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 5. 1991 - PAGE 2 site without a permit. therefore. the applicant m~st pay an additional fee and post the letter of credit imme~iatelY. , Nielsen noted a change to his July 2. 1990 recomm~,ndation. park dedication fee is now $750 per lot. I The The applicant. North Suburban Development. had no~hing further to add and there were no further comments. Benson closed the Public Hearing at 8:43 P.M. , Commissioner Leslie said the initial application ~as made before an engineering report was completed. Nielsen sai the project does comply with Minnehaha Creek Watershed District re uirements. Commissioner Schultz asked if this project will elliminate flooding on Strawberry Lane. Nielsen said the developer has met his obligation1; the development will not increase the runoff to Strawberry Lane. He said the area was identified as in need of a storm sewer in the 1970's. Leslie asked in which direction the water runs. Nielsen said the runoff starts at Church Road and continues down t~rough the Strawberry Lane area to Lake Minnetonka. He said Ithe ponds on the project site are sized to accommodate the runoff ~rom the property. Leslie moved. Schultz seconded to recommend the City C~uncil approve the Preliminary Plat for Shorewood Suburban Estates subjec~ to the conditions listed in the planning report plus requirem~nt of $750 per lot park dedication fees. ' Motion carried - 4/0 2. 7:45 PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. OPERATION AUTOMOBILE SALES A~ SERVICE ! Applicant: Location: Peter Brkovich. representing Apex ~uto. Inc. 5660 County Rd. 19 ! Benson opened the Public Hearing at 7:50 P.M. Nielsen presented the request for C.U.P. proposes to open an auto sales and repair the old Tom Thumb at 5660 County Rd. 19. to remodel the building to accommodate an and service area in the rear. Nielsen said the architectural appearance of change. The parking lot will be repaved the Cty. Rd. 19 will narrow. subject to Hennepin and there will be curbing around the parking area along Cty. Rd. 19. He said Ithe applicant busines~' at the site of The app icant proposes of f i ce. ! sma 11 showroom the ~uilding will not entr~nce from Coun y approval lotxcept for the '? ..:.. . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 5. 1991 - PAGE 3 He said the applicant proposes to collect water r4noff at the northwest corner of the site and pipe it to the drlainage ditch which occupies the north 40 feet of the site. The City Engineer recommends they use an oil skimming device. Niel~en said they may be able to make an arrangement with the Ameriqan Legion to use their pond. if it is enlarged. i Mr. Brkovich distributed a signage plan which pro~osed one wall sign and one pylon sign. He will have no banners lor other outdoor signs. other than one temporary sign per year. i Nielsen recommended granting the C.U.P. for one yJar and monitor the conditions stated in his memo of October 24. ]991. Don Keete. K & D Properties said the applicant proposes on site ponding or joining with the American Legion to en~arge their pond. He said Mr. Brkovich will do a good job. ! Bo Witrak - Minnetonka Country Club objected to tije proposed auto service and sales business. He stated that ~he area already has two other businesses of this kind. He said th area is deteriorating because of the kinds of businesses 1 lowed. Witrak stated that the Country Club is zoned R-1 and acrdss the street it is zoned C-3. Keete- objected. He said the proposed site is zoijed C-3 and if the proposal meets City requirements it should be apprloved. The Public Hearing was closed at 8:17 P.M. Benson said the site of the proposed Apex Auto. Inc. is zoned C-3 and the Country Club could apply for rezoning to ~-3. He said he is not happy with another car sales and service center but the proposal seems to be a good approach. Schultz asked if the City is ready to intensely mqnitor this site. He said the Fina site is still not complete. Nielsen said he was not aware of any problems at ~ina. He said Minnetonka Transmission and Moore's Auto ~re grandfathered. ! Schultz asked Brkovich how cars will enter his se~vice center. Brkovich said they will drive around to the back. He can only accommodate 15 cars in the parking lot. Schultz asked why there will be no curbing along !wY. 19. Nielsen said Hennepin County does not require it. Leslie asked Brkovich what will be his hours of 0 eration. He said 9 A.M. to 7 P.M. ' Commissioner Rosenberger asked if he will do body work. Brkovich said he will do engine repair. Rosenberger asked who will provide the letter of credit. Keefe said it is undecided Schultz said if there is customer parking in the rear there should be a door to access the front of the building. - ~ . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 5. 1991 - PAGE 4 Rosenberger asked how many cars will be parked on the site; if there are 15 required spaces how many will be for customers and employees. Brkovich said there will be no outdoor storage of Icars. There is room for 6 cars in the repair center. i I Nielsen said there is a difference between storag~ of cars and sales of cars. I I Leslie asked Keefe what other interest he has had1in this property. Keefe said there has been a variety of interest b t nothing serious . Schultz asked who has the C.U.P., the landowner o~ the user. Nielsen said. neither one, the C.U.P. goes with the property. Nielsen said the indoor display of cars is a perm;"tted use of the property. The outdoor display of cars and th service of cars needs a C.U.P. i Leslie asked Keefe if he has discussed the pondin~ proposal the Legion. He said he has had preliminary discu~sions and have been positive. I with they Leslie asked if there will be improvements to the !building. Keefe said it will be painted and repaired. Rosenberger said he would like to see more landscdping and no messages written on cars. Schultz moved. Leslie seconded to recommend the City Cquncil approve the C.U.P. for Apex Auto. Inc. for one year subject to the~Staff recommendations with enhanced landscaping. the satisfa tion of Hennepin County requirements for curbing and outdoor storage sh uld not exceed 24 hours. i Motion carried - 4/0 3. 8:00 PUBLIC HEARING - C.U.P. TEMPORARY PARK SHEL R BUILDING Applicant: Location: Shorewood Park Commission Manor Park Benson opened the Public Hearing at 9:08 P.M. Nielsen said he originally requested this C.U.P. Je issued for three years, however, it was approved for one yea and was renewed last year for one year. He is requesting the C.U.P. be granted for two years. Nielsen said there is a Park Bond Ref rendum proposed for the spring, however, it is unlikely that a pe~anent shelter could be built in time for use in 1992. i Nielsen suggested the Planning Commission recommend to the Park Commission that the Park Commission's Capital Imp~ovement Plan i I I 4 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 5. 1991 - PAGE 5 be modified to make the construction of a permaneryt warming house at Manor Park a top priority. I I I Schultz asked Nielsen the cost for a permanent bU,"lding. Nielsen said $20,000 to $40,000. Schultz asked if the bu'lding can be built within the next year. Nielsen said most of the planned improvements will be done at Freeman Park. Schultz said, given the history of this warming h~use C.U.P., the Planning Commission should not recommend granting the C.U.P. or recommend granting it for one year with the condi ion that construction of a new building be a priority on t e Park Capital Improvement Plan. Schultz moved. Benson seconded to recommend the City ~unCil approve the C.U.P. for a temporary warming house at Manor Park for one year with the condition that the construction of a permanent wa ing house be the number one priority of the Park Capital Improvement PI n. Motion carried - 4/0. 4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR. Paul Aubrecht, Radisson Rd., representing the Chr~stmas Lake/Radisson Rd. Transportation Task Force, asked the Planning Commission to recommend the City Council advise t~e State to open the Old Market Road Intersection as planned. I Aubrecht said a traffic study was done in 1984 an4 the intersection registered a level F which is a maximum reading. IHe said the reason Vine Hill is congested is the traffic from!the Waterford area developments. He said this intersection has been justified and 4pproved by Mn/DOT, the State and the City. He said it is aniold issue which is not being solved. Aubrecht asked Nielsen how many homes will eventually be built in Waterford. Nielsen said there are now approximately 500 and 600 are proposed. Council Liaison Stover said the construction is n1w stopped. Benson asked if there will be a public meeting onlthe subject. Stover said the issue may be discussed at the Nov" 25th Counci I meeting. , Benson said the Planning Commission should recomm~ind the intersection not be tied to the Vine Hill Road co struction and he would like the issue to be placed on the agenda f r the 25th. Aubrecht said traffic counters should have been placed at Old Market Road and Covington to determine the real f~ow of traffic. Nielsen said he should write a letter to the Citylrequesting to be on the Agenda when this topic is discussed. ' 5 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 5. 1991 - PAGE 6 Aubrecht and Benson asked who was appointed to th~ Transportation Task Force and how the selection was done. ~' Stover said the selection was done differently th n other times. The Mayor sometimes appoints members with consult tion by the Councilor the entire Council appoints task force Imembers. The Transportation Task Force was appointed by one Co~nCilmember. 1 Stover said Mn/DOT may not fund the intersection ~f the Transportation Task Force recommendations are adOjted' She said the City Staff did not recommend the Tas Force report. Nielsen said the staff made suggestions. Rosenberger said a Transportation Task Force shou d look at the entire City. Nielsen said this is done through the Comprehensive Plan. Leslie moved. Schultz seconded to recommend the City c1uncil proceed with the opening of the Old Market Road intersection a quickly as possible based on the Public Hearing of five years ago and the studies and research done for the project. Motion carried - 4/0 5. REPORTS Stover informed the Commission that one of the Tr~vesco partners did attend the Council meeting and objected to th~ Transportation Task Force recommendations. ! She said the applicants for the Planning Commission are as follows: 1. Deborah Borkin 2. Tim Ryan 3. Doug Malam 4. Robert Bean 5. Jack Hanson 6. Jerry Goodlin I The Council will consider these applications on N~v. 12th. Stover informed the Commission that their recommendations are now on the Consent Agenda. Rosenberger asked about the Salt/Sand Shed. now be done in the spring. I Stovir said it will Leslie said she would like to commend the Public Works Department for their excellent plowing of the streets. 6 . . . 1. CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1991 I MINNEWAS~A SCHOOL 26350 SMI~OWN ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S I ! ! I Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M. He welcomed the two new members of the Planning commisJion and Jack R. Hansen. l I CALL TO ORDER Douglas Malam ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson. Commissioners Bongaards, Schultz, Rosenberger. Hansen and ~alam Planner Nielsen, Council Liaison Stover, Cit* Administrator Hurm, City Engineer Dresel and Park Planner Koegler Absent: Commissioner Leslie APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Planning Commission Minutes - November 5. 19~ Rosenberger moved, Schultz seconded to approve the Nov~mber 5, 1991 Minutes with the following corrections: 1. Pg. 1 - "Nielsen presented the preliminary plat application. II -second line from bottom - II the developer s gned a development agreement." 2. Pg. 2 - add the following to the motion: !subject to the conditions listed in the planning report plu~ requirement of $750 per lot park dedication fees. 3. Pg. 3 - Kieve should be Keefe. Pg. 3 - the paragraph after "The Public Hear~ng was closed at 8:17 P.M." "the Country Club could apply for I rezoning to C-3" I 4. 5. Pg. 4 - Kieve should be Keefe Pg. 5 - MATTER FROM THE FLOOR - 3rd paragrapl!1 - "Nielsen said there are now approximately 500 and 600 are Jl>roposed." i Motion carried - 7/0. 7:30 PUBLIC HEARING - CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM I (CIP) 1 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1991 - PAGE 2 Administrator Hurm said tonight's meeting is the fficial Public Hearing for the Capital Improvment Program. He p~esented an outline of the Water section of the Capital Improvement Program. At the Nov. 4. 1991 Water Informational Meeting. ~he majority of of residents indicated they did not want a CitY-Wjde water system. Hurm said the Council has agreed to remo e the city water component from the CIP. He said. if residents ar here tonight to discuss water. it will not be discussed. Hurm asked residents to sign a Public Input Form f they wished to speak or write comments to the Council. I CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NARRATIVE/ 199~-1996 I WATER OBJECTIVE 1. Determine a clear course of action for the f1\,ture of the water system(s) in the City. 1 Hurm said. at this time. the objective will ~ot include a city-wide water system. POLICY CONSIDERATIONS Determine the physical parameters of current water system expansion and consider restricting hook-ups qnd expansion in the future. 2. Should any future expansion be designed to b~ consistent with the overall system plan? 1 . 3. Consider making system modifications to make1the existing equipment more efficient and viable. 4. Consider divesting of all City owned water s~stems. Hurm said the Council has many directions to gO w~th the water policy. They will have to make decisions regard~- g petitions for water connection and the timing of the connection For example. should a newly overlaid road be torn up for wate ain extension? Hurm said a CIP is like a budget and is reviewed Jvery year to determine what should be in the plan for the nextlfive years. The City will study the water objectives every year t~ determine the most cost effective approach. I There are five water systems in the City at this time and are as follows: 1 . 2. 3. 4. Southeast Area Water System. Amesbury Water System. Badger Field Water System. Woodhaven Water System. 2 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1991 - PAGE 3 5. Boulder Bridge Water System. STREETS City Engineer Dresel presented the Street section .of the CIP. OBJECTIVES Development of a systematic approach to rOad~aY maintenance and reconstruction. I Dresel said the City will try to do early ma~ntenance on roads and look at software that updates main~enance. to reduce costs. : 1 . 2. Further refinement of our Municipal State Aid System. Dresel said Shorewood became part of the MSA ,system in 1990 when the population reached 5000. He said o~e problem with the MSA system. is the rigid guidelines and ~tandards for construction of roads. There will be no MSAiconstruction in 1992, Dresel explained. the City will obtain public input concerning the type of roads they want const ucted. POLICY CONSIDERATIONS : 1. Adoption of a standard section (width, curb & gutter, etc.) for reconstruction of existing roadways. 2. Adoption of section to be used along the var~ous MSA routes. I Dresel said the minimum MSA street width is ~8 Ft. He said Smithtown Road conforms with this width, how~ver. many roads in Shorewood do not. 3. Consideration of an assessment policy to be ~sed for all street reconstruction. I , In past years, approximately $200.000 has beJn ear-marked the general fund for street repair and upgra4ing. Dresel many cities assess residents for a portion 01 the road in front of their house. He said there would b an equal per front footage charge to equalize the cost of road construction throughout the City. from said DRAINAGE OBJECTIVES 1 . Solve existing private flooding problems 2. Improve the quality of water runoff to the I ke through detention. Control the quantity of water runoff to the ake. 3. - ~ . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1991 - PAGE 4 4. Help recharge aquifers Help control lake levels Help decrease erosion and sediment to the la~e Direct water from street surfaces which savea street maintenance dollars. Dresel said water runoff directly affects st1eets. He said poor or waterlogged soil are two major reaso s for roads buckling. , POLICY CONSIDERATIONS 1. Determine who is responsible to pay for inst41lation and replacement of driveway culverts. . 2. Establishment of Special Drainage Districts under Section 444 of State Statutes which allows district ~ide ad valorem taxes to pay for drainage projects. 3. Dresel said there is a Comprehensive Stormwa~er Management plan in place already. The City proposes tolestablish 16 watershed districts and when a specific drainage project is undertaken. 70% of the project would be asse~sed to the district. These districts would only be estaijlished once. , I Establishment of a City wide Drainage Utility District which would allow a special City wide charge for d~ainage improvements. ; I A $15.00 per year charge to each household w~uld provide funds for smaller projects. This would elim~nate time and administrative costs to assess residents for these smaller projects. SANITARY SEWER OBJECTIVES 1. Improvement of the economic efficiency of ou~ sanitary system. 2. Reduction of clearwater Inflow and Infiltrat~on for economic and environmental reasons. Dresel said the Metropolitan Waste Control C~mmission charges the City for water flow through the sanitary I sewer. The City should prevent rainwater and groundwater fro$ entering the system. He also said excess water in the sewer can c~use environmental probems by overloading the MWCC treatment pl~nt. when this happens. untreated water may enter the Missi~sippi River. 4 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19. 1991 - PAGE 5 POLICY CONSIDERATIONS 1. Selection of two Lift Stations per year for 1ehabilitation. Dresel said the Lift Station pumps are being replaced with one man pumps which reduces costs and accidents. Direction to staff to continue investigationlof causes for 1/1 and monitoring of systems for locations of a~eas with high rate of 1/1. I 2. Dresel said discharge of sump pumps into the I sewer is a problem and runoff through manholes. . Resident - asked what I & I means. Dresel explained that it means the Infiltration of rainwater into the I sewer and the Inflow of groundwater. . 3. Increased regulation and policing of sump pu~p discharge to sanitary system. Dresel said the MWCC has said the discharge ~f sump pumps into the sewer is the biggest cause of I & Il PUBLIC FACILITIES OBJECTIVES 1. Relocation of the public works garage to a new building which totally meets City Code. 2. Provide an enclosed area for the storage of ~oad salt. , Hurm said money has been set aside for the sdlt/sand storage shed. Grading has been done and the constru~tion will be done in the spring. The new Public Works ga~age will be done in 1992. POLICY CONSIDERATIONS 1 . Final facility plan and budget needs to be dJtermined upon completion of the needs assessment by the Ar~hitects. 2. The construction bid process must be followeq and construction contract awarded. 3. I Plans need to be finalized on the new configJration of the City Hall/Badger Park site without the Publid Works Facility. Hurm said the plans for the site will includ~ repair of the parking lot and discussion of the use of the I current Public Works garage. I 5 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19. 1991 - PAGE 6 EQUIPMENT OBJECTIVES 1. Maintain a schedule of equipment purchases a~d replacement which maintains an economical public works feet which meets the City's needs. Hurm said funds have been set aside for eqUiJment purchases. POLICY CONSIDERATION I 1. i Establishment of a carefully defined Capital IReserve Fund. ! 2. , Consider using five year equipment cerfifica~es to purchase equipment in years that needs exceed availab~e equipment replacement funds. Hurm said the Capital Improvement Program Wi~l not increase property taxes. It is designed to utilize t e tax dollars that have already been levied. He said the ity has a responsibility to maintain the levy effort i~ the area of Capital Improvements. Hurm said Cities can jet improvements go and this eventually catches up with them. PARK OBJECTIVES 1. Provide neighborhood park facilities adequat~ to serve the needs of the surrounding residential population. Park Planner Koegler listed the major neighb~rhood parks in Shorewood. 1. Silverwood 2 . Manor 3. Badger 4. Cathcart 2. Provide community park facilities adequate t~ serve both the active and passive recreational interests of I Shorewood's residents. Such facilities should also be u$ed to supply Shorewood's share of fields for area-wide orfanized athletic programs. . Koegler said Freeman Park is the community p~rk facility in Shorewood. 3. Provide park facilities which can be consideted the center of Shorewood community life. 6 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19. 1991 - PAGE 7 Koegler said the Park Commission developed a !Park Capital Improvement Plan in 1990. In 1991. they hel~ a series of neighborhood meetings to discuss the plan. ~e majority opinion, at that time, was positive for the ~ark plan but there was concern about the costs. -I The Park Commission revised the CIP in four 4ays: 1. Undertake improvements over a longer pe1iod of time. 2. Involve the private sector 3. Plan a longer term bond issue (increase from 10 to 20 years) 4. Focus on improvements to current park l~nd rather than on land acquisition. i POLICY CONSIDERATIONS 1. If one of the funding components of the Park IPlan becomes unavailable (donations or City funding) or i~ the referendum on borrowing for park improvement fails to r~ceive voter approval, what will the "fall back" position Ibe? Koegler expained the three sources of fundin~ for the Park CIP. 1. Referendum 2. Group and Individual donations. 3. Park Capital Fund (park dedication 'fees and contributions from the general fund) He said the revised CIP proposes $1,300,000 ~or park improvements. Of this amount. $9.67,000 or $~65.000 net proceeds will be borrowed and must be approv d by a referendum. The annual tax impact on a $150,000 house will be $39.00. ' Private and group donations are targeted to Rrovide $86,700 for improvements and the Park Capital Fund w~ll provide $421,875. 2. Is the City prepared to support it's investm~nts in park facilities with increased expenditure in mairitenance efforts? Koegler listed the improvements to each park!as follows: 1. Freeman Park - has ball fields, irrigat~on and a trail and will be developed in the next 10 ye4rs with major emphasis in the next few years. ' 2. Silverwood Park - undeveloped at the pr~sent time but is scheduled to be built in 1992. I Cathcart - ballfield to be reoriented t1 make room for on site parking and replace outdated Pl1Y equipment. 3. 7 . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19. 1991 - PAGE 8 4. Manor - park is fully developed but nee4s updating and a permanent warming house. I 5. Badger - update and replace equipment. INew trail will be built. Koegler totaled the park improvements if the refe~endum succeeds: 1. 1992 $382,750 2. 1993 $512,000 3. 1994 - $101,800 4. 1995 $ 51.700 5. 1996 - $ 58,000 Planner Nielsen explained how the CIP fit with the Plarlning process. He said the CIP is subject to change and modification. . Nielsen said the Comprehensive Plan is 10 years old and needs updating ~nd the CIP should be an implementation tool for the Compo Plan. The CIP lists City projects and how they are to be financed. PATRICK COLLINS - 4675 FATIMA PLACE Chairman Benson opened the Public Hearing for comments at 8:15 P.M. Collins said he wants to be sure the city-water questiqn is dead. He supports the City getting out of the water business. . He said he does not support curb & gutter streets in Sijorewood. however, he is willing to pay his fair share for the roads that iare built. Collins said the City should comply with it's own code ,and build a new Public Works facility. He said the City should listen to it's employees when rebUilding and replacing buildings and equipment ao the City can best serve it's citizens. He supports the use of a five year plan. Collins said Koegler made a fine presentation of the P4rk CIP. however. he does not support a park system in Shorewood. SCOTT COLSWORTHY - 5480 HOWARDS POINT ROAD Colsworthy asked how residents can have greater input ~n the formation of City Capital Projects. Hurm said the City can distribute more information to ~esidents. A newsletter is published and the Council meetings are cqble cast. In addition, information meetings are held on major projeqts. He said, . over the next few months. the Council will want Citizel input regarding streets and other CIP issues. 8 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19. 1991 - PAGE 9 . HAZEL BOOTE - 24340 YELLOWSTONE TRAIL Boote asked if there is a detailed map of which street~ are to be widened. Hurm said there is a list of possible street~ to be widened. however. it may be adjusted. He said there is a 28 ft.1 minimum width for an MSA road and few roads in the City are MSA roads. Boote said she had a history of Yellowstone Trail and ~hought the City staff should make an effort to use the information. PETE HOLMBERG - 5955 CAJED Holmberg said he is confused about the MSA roads. Hurm said it will take many years to do the MSA roads. MSA ROADS 1. Smithtown Road & Country Club Road 2. Covington Road 3. Howard's Point Road & Eureka Road 4. Yellowstone & Lake Linden Road 5. Grant Lorenz. Edgewood and Birch Bluff Road . Holmberg asked who determines how the MSA funds are us~d. Dresel said public information meetings are held and t~e Council ultimatly decides which roads are done. what year theYlare done and how wide they will be. Holmberg said he supports a bike path along Smithtown. , He said the City is going overboard supporting the Park system and more Imoney should be put into trails and bike paths. , , Colsworthy said he lives by Howards Point Marina and said people cut across Lake Minnetonka to Howards Point Road. Nielsen asked if ice fishermen did this. Colsworthy s4id it is area residents. Nielsen said the property he is referring to is privat~ property and the City's hands are tied. He said there have been few co~plaints but he has suggested. in the past. that area residents sign alpetition to request parking restrictions. He said nothing has been done. Nielsen said the property has an easement to the lake ~n favor of several other area residents and the City can't act at this time. Nielsen said landscaping can be done on the property. . Boote also asked if 18 wheel trucks can be eliminated ~rom Yellowstone Trail. Dresel said load limits are usually placed on the roads in the spring. He will need a legal opinion for any other re~trictions. l Benson closed the Public Hearing at 8:40 P.M. I 9 . ~ . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 19. 1991 - PAGE 10 Benson and Commissioner Schultz said they would like mJre time to review the material l Bongaards moved. Rosenberger seconded to table the disoussion of the Capital Improvement Program until the next Planning Co~ission meeting on Dec. 3. 1991 at 7:30 P.M. at City Hall. i Motion carried - 7/0 Hurm said residents can obtain copies of the CIP at Ci~y Hall and can submit further input. Boote told the Planning Commission they do a good job ~or the City. 2. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR. There were no matters from the floor. 3 . REPORTS There was no report. 4. ADJOURNMENT Schultz moved. Rosenberger seconded to adjourn the mee~ing at 8:43 P.M. Motion carried - 7/0 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED Katie Snyder Recording Secretary ATTEST: BARBARA B,ANCEL. MAYOR JAMES C. HURM. CITY ADMINISTRATOR 10 . . . CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1991 COUNCIL C~AMBERS 5755 CO~RY CLUB ROAD PAGE 1 M I NUT E S CALL TO ORDER i Chairman Benson called the meeting to order at 7:53 P.~. ROLL CALL Present: Planning Commission Chairman Benson, Commiss~oners Bongaards, Hansen, Malam, Rosenberger, Plann~r Nielsen Council Liaison Stover and City Administrato~ Hurm. Leslie, Schultz ! Absent: APPROVAL OF MINUTES No minutes were approved. REVIEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM (TABLED FROM 19 NO~EMBER PUBLIC HEARING) Chairman Benson asked Hurm and Nielsen if the Planning iCommission will be reviewing the Capital Improvement Program every yean. Nielsen said the Comprehensive Plan has a process for ~eview of the CIP. Council Liaison Stover asked if there will be a Public IHearing every year. Hurm said there will be no need for a public hearing e~ery year as there was this year. The Planning Commission can review the iCIP to see if it dovetails with the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Hansen asked if the Planning Commission sHould comment on the Park section of the CIP. . Nielsen said there are parts of the Park CIP that the Rlanning Commission can comment on, such as the temporary warmirtg house. He said the Planning Commission recommended the Park Commission place a permanent warming house at Manor Park as a top priorit~ in the CIP. Hansen asked if they will also be approving the Park s~ction. He said some residents commented, at the Public Hearing, about ithe amount of money proposed to be expended. Hansen commented that tihe City park system has a minimal amount of money expended on it at ithe present time and the proposed increase speaks to all the City wants to accomplish with the Parks. Benson and Rosenberger said the timing is poor for a Pdrk referendum, at this time. Stover said the Planning Commission does not have to aRProve the total package at this time. 1 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES DECEMBER 3. 1991 - PAGE 2 Benson asked Nielsen the procedure for approval of the iCIP. Nielsen said there are parts of the CIP that the Plann~ng no reason to make a recommendation, such as the equipm~nt I Hurm explained that the Planning Commission can recommend include their comments. Rosenberger said the plan should include a financial nqte which indicates the cost, per taxpayer, of the entire plan. I Benson believed the CIP was generated by the desire to I implement a municipal water system. Commission has schedule. approval and Hurm said the CIP is a plan and many of the costs are &lready included in the annual budget, except for the Parks and the $15 'utility drainage charge. Stover agreed with Benson and stated there was a major explanation about the cost of City water but not much concerning streets or equipment. Hurm pointed out the figures are in the CIP program. Hansen asked what the City will study regarding water ~f there is no municipal system. Hurm said the design of the system ~hould be studied. Benson said he thought the water plan was presented ne~ativelY and could have been sold better. Hurm said the Council did not want the idea sold. Benson said some of these policy questions should come before the Planning Commission as part of the planning process. Hansen said the water plan looks at many alternatives ~nd the City should look at all the options. Bongaards said the water plan can be discussed when th~ plan is reviewed every year. I Nielsen said a municipal water system was never includ~d in the Comprehensive Plan in 1981 and needs to be addressed. Rosenberger stated he was confused about what they are lapproving. Benson said he wanted to review each section of the plan. Hansen asked if they are to approve the policy and obj~ctives. Hurm said they are to review the entire CIP and recomm~nd action to the Council. Rosenberger asked if the CIP is part of the Compo Plan or vice versa. ~ ~ . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES DECEMBER 3, 1991 - PAGE 3 Nielsen said the process was done backward. The been updated and then the ClP assigns dollars to I Compo IPlan should each ~roposal. i have Rosenberger said the City can still do that. Nielsen and Hurm said the Compo Plan review will conti1ue in January. Nielsen said most projects will start in 1993 but the qollars must be budgeted in 1992. Nielsen stated that transportation is a big issue. He Isaid the City needs to designate MSA roads and perhaps some roads shquld not be MSA. He said MSA standards will not be used for all streets'l He reiterated that the ClP is meant to be changed and ~he Planning Commission would have been 2/3 done reviewing the Comp.1 Plan if there had not been a staff turnover in 1991. Nielsen explained the planning procedure. The City ha~ to have a planning inventory which includes such information as tihe miles of roads and the amount of land left for development. He said ~and use was a big issue in the 1970's but transportation and public faci~ities are the topics for the 1990's. Nielsen said the City should have a policy plan. The ~lanning Commission should consider whether the 1981 policies a~e valid and if municipal water should be added. Hansen asked if the Compo Plan and elP are two separat~ documents. Nielsen said the CIP will replace part of the Compo Plan and many other parts of the Compo Plan need to be updated. Stover said the Compo Plan was not seriously reviewed ~or 10 years and the same thing could happen to the ClP. Hurm said the elP forces the City to review the Compo Flan. This is one of it's advantages. Malam asked if the ClP prioritizes the Compo Plan. Nielsen said not all areas are covered in each plan. Malam said the Plan details 3 of 4 ways to finance the drainage projects. Nielsen said special assessments are not used for drai~age projects because it is hard to prove benefit. Hansen said if 70% of the funding for a projects comesifrom the drainage district, the City should spell out how much that is. Hurm said this is a property tax levY for the taxing district not a special assessment. - ~ . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES DECEMBER 3. 1991 - PAGE 4 Malam asked if the $15 utility drainage charge is in a Ipool for the staff to draw on. Hurm said expenditures must first b1 approved by the City Council. Benson said the CIP is hard to approve with so many ne~ changes. He would like more input into the document. Nielsen reiterated that they will be reviewing this dodument again. Hurm said the Planning Commission can recommend the Co~ncil change the City Code to include the CIP as part of the annual rev~ew process. I Rosenberger referred to pg. 24 of the CIP plan and ask~d expenditure for the Amesbury Well is the business of t~e Commission. Nielsen said the expense is a maintenance expense and ~t necessary for the Planning Commission to review. if the $5000 Planning is not Rosenberger questioned the expenditures on the followiqg pages: Pg. 25 - No money is listed for roads in 1992. Nielsen said there is money in the 1992 budge~ for the maintenance of roads. Pg. 26 - Nothing will be spent for drainage projects in 1992. He said this can have impl~cations. Pg.27 - Lifts stations have already been budgeted thro4gh the Sanitary Sewer Fund. Pg. 28 - SaltlSand Shed has already been budgeted. Pg. 29 Capital Equipment Replacement has already b~en budgeted. Pg. 30 - Parks - referendum proposed. Stover said the plan should be reviewed in June or JulY when the budget is proposed. Hansen asked if their resolution should state that the iPlanning Commission wants to be part of the review process. Nielsen said the Planning Commission can recommend that they be the Review Board for the CIP. Hansen said they need to be careful about the Parks section, it is the province of the Park Commission. Stover and Nielsen said the Parks are part of the CIP ~hich is done by the Park Commission and reviewed by the Planning Commi~sion. Benson moved. Malam seconded to recommend that the City Council adopt the Capital Improvement Plan to be reviewed yearly by the Planning Commission and City Council. 4 . . . PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES DECEMBER 3. 1991 - PAGE 5 Motion carried - 5/0 Rosenberger said the Park Commission should be notified that the Manor Park temporary shelter should be made permanent. Nielsen said there is no budget for a shelter and it i1 not a top priority. He said the City should set an example and ot use temporary buildings. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR There were no matters from the floor. REPORTS Rosenberger asked Stover about the Council discussion to limit Planning Commission terms. Stover said there is a feeling by some Council members Ithat there should be a term limit. The Council could place a time limit Ion terms or also have the discretion to reappoint. She said there was also discussion that the Planning Commission members should not be cho~en by neighborhood. . ADJOURNMENT Hansen moved. Bongaards seconded to adjourn the meeting at 9:12 P.M. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED Katie Snyder Recording Secretary ATTEST: BARBARA B1ANCEL. MAYOR JAMES C. HURM. CITY ADMINISTRATOR t= ,J