100708 pl mnCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, 7 OCTOBER 2008
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schmitt called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL
5735 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
SOUTHSHORE CENTER
7:00 P.M.
Present: Chair Schmitt; Commissioners Gagne, Geng (arrived at 7;05 P.M.), Gniffke, Hutchins, and
Vilett; Planning Director Nielsen; and Council Liaison Turgeon
Absent: Commissioner Ruoff
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
16 September 2008
Gagne moved, Hutchins seconded, Approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of 16
September 2008 as presented. Motion passed 4/0/1 with Gniffke abstaining due to his absence at the
meeting.
1. 7:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING -C.U.P. FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES
Applicant: Telecom Transport Management, Inc.
Location: SE Water Tower - 5500 Old Market Road
Chair Schmitt opened the Public Hearing at 7:01 P.M., noting the procedures utilized in a Public Hearing.
He explained items recommended for approval that evening would be placed on a 27 October 2008 City
Council regular meeting agenda for fiu•ther review and consideration.
Director Nielsen stated Debra Weiss, representing Telecom Transport Management, Inc. (TTM), has
applied for a conditional use permit to locate telecommunications facilities at 5500 Old Market Road. The
property is the site of the City's SE Area Water Tower. TTM proposes to erect three telecommunications
dish-style antennas into the rail system at the top of the Tower. It also proposes to use the fenced-in area
currently located south of the Tower to place its equipment cabinets at the base of the Tower. The
property in question is zoned R-lA, Single-family Residential and it measures 200 feet x 200 feet and
contains 40,000 square feet of area.
With regard to the analysis of the case, Nielsen explained Telecommunications facilities are governed by
the Telecommunications Act of 1995. The City has adopted its local regulations consistent with Federal
requirements. These regulations are found in Section 1201.03 Subd. 21 of the City Code. For the most
part, telecommunications facilities have been limited to commercial zoning districts within the City,
although the Code does allow the use of public property for this purpose by conditional use permit. The
City Code suggests any new telecommunications carriers should be located on existing towers (i.e., City
water towers) wherever possible before constructing additional freestanding towers. Although much of
the current Code is intended to address new, freestanding tower sites there are several provisions that are
relevant to location of facilities on existing towers. Those provisions are as follows.
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1. Finish -The proposed antennas must be finished to match the color of the existing water
tower.
2. Proposed Ground Facilities -The applicant initially proposed placing the equipment
inside the base of the SE Area Water Tower. The City's Director of Public Works
strongly recommends the equipment be placed in the fenced-in enclosure on the south
side of the base of the Tower. This recommended location is very well screened from
view.
3. Fencing -The existing equipment compound is already fenced.
4. Landscaping -The site is already well landscaped.
5. Stealth -Locating them on existing towers or water towers is undoubtedly less visually
obtrusive than building new freestanding towers. The applicant proposes using two two-
foot diameter round dishes and one one-foot diameter round dish to be located on the
existing rail system at the top of the Tower. The proposed antennas are microwave
antennas and, if approved, would be the first allowed on either of the City's water towers.
The purpose of this type of antenna is to boost the transmission capacity between
telecommmunications towers.
6. Evaluation and Monitoring -The current Code requirements provide for initial and
ongoing monitoring of FCC radiation emission requirements. The City's standard lease
agreements between telecommunications carriers and the City provide for annual
monitoring and, if necessary, testing. In this regard, the City uses Owl Engineering for
such work. The conditional use permit, if approved, should include a condition that the
antenna installation be subject to the review, recommendations and approval of Owl
Engineering.
7. Engineering -The structural attachment to the water tower is reviewed by KLM
Engineering. Details should be subject to review and approval by the City Engineer. As
you may be aware, the S.E. Area Water Tower is currently undergoing maintenance and
refinishing. Installation of the TTM antennas will have to be coordinated with that effort.
Nielsen stated Staff recommends approval of this conditional use permit subject to the following
conditions.
1. The recommendations of the City Engineer with respect to structural and operational
issues.
2. The applicant must enter into the City's lease agreement including provisions for annual
monitoring.
3. The current lease rate for water tower space is $1500 per month. There are provisions in
the standard lease agreement for annual rate escalation, based on the CPI or four percent,
whichever is greater.
Director Nielsen stated Debra Weiss, representing Telecom Transport Management, Inc., was present.
Ms. Weiss stated the antennas will enhance communications between carriers.
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Seeing no one present wishing to comment on this case, Chair Schmitt opened and closed the Public
Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:09 P.M.
In response to a question from Commissioner Gagne, Director Nielsen stated antennas have been
exchanged over the years and there was one telecommunications carrier that went out of business and
another carrier bought that space.
Gagne moved, Hutchins seconded, recommending approval of a conditional use permit for Telecom
Transport Management, Inc., to locate telecommunications facilities at 5500 Old Market Road on
the Southeast Area Water Tower subject to the recommendations identified in the Staff report and
in the Director of'Public Works' report dated 6 October 2008. Motion passed 6/0.
Chair Schmitt closed the Public Hearing at 7:10 P.M.
2. PUBLIC HEARING -PLANNING DISTRICT 6 -NONRESIDENTIAL USES (continued
from 20 May 2008)
Chair Schmitt opened the Public Hearing at 7:10 P.M., noting it was continued from 20 May 2008.
Director Nielsen explained during its 20 May 2008 meeting the Planning Commission held a public
hearing to consider an amendment to the City's Comprehensive Plan (Comp Plan) regarding future
redevelopment of Planning District 6. That combined area included the following commercial sites: the
Shorewood Yacht Club (SYC), the Minnetonka Portable Dredging Company (MPDCo), the Garden Patch
Nursery, the South Lake Office Building, and the property between the South Lake Office Building and
the Garden Patch Nursery (the old Crepeau Dock location which is owned by the same individual who
owned the Garden Patch Nursery). Owners of the affected commercial properties asked for a continuance
of the hearing in order to prepare a concept sketch showing an alternative to the residential use proposed
in the amendment. He noted since the May 20`x' public hearing the MPDCo property has since been
purchased by Gabriel Jabbour (a co-owner of the SYC), bringing both properties under common
ownership.
Nielsen then explained a site plan concept sketch and a building plan concept sketch were submitted. The
sketches were commissioned by Todd Frostad, owner of the South lake Office Building. The concept
includes redevelopment of the SYC and the MPDCo facilities with an office component connecting the
two uses. He reviewed the sketches. He stated the sketches reflect the facilities achieving the minimum
required setback; the SYC and the MPDCo do not achieve the setback requirements today. He clarified
the sketches were for illustrative purposes only.
Nielsen read an email he received from Mr. Frostad earlier in the day. "I have a planning meeting in
Excelsior tonight so I will not be able to attend. I think the plan we have presented will be a great asset to
the community. It was designed after the old Tonka Bay Hotel. I am sure the commercial access can be
worked out and the overall area would benefit. This project would be a significantly better asset to the
area as opposed to a few more houses. I look forward to developing more quality projects in Shorewood."
Nielsen explained the SYC and the MPDCo both have access issues. Both of the businesses currently use
a driveway off of County Road 19; the driveway crosses over the Hennepin County Regional Rail
Authority (HCRRA) trail, and it is there by easement agreement from the HCRRA. An excerpt from the
easement agreement for the two properties was included in the meeting packet. The HCRRA can revoke
the easement at its discretion. The HCRRA can also revoke the easement if either the SYC or MPDCo
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cease to exist. The Planning Commission had asked Staff to further explore the restrictions on access
across the HCRRA trail. Staff spoke with John Tripp and Jessica Galatz at the HCRRA. They indicated
the HCRRA would likely be willing to consider other uses than the SYC and the MPDCo; but, they
"don't know why the Board would give up its right to revoke the easement as currently written".
Nielsen stated the owners of the SYC and MPDCo businesses have related their intent is to stay in
business. He explained the draft text amendment states "In the event the yacht club or the dredging
company cease to exist, reuse of the properties should be directed to residential, at similar densities as the
surrounding area." He stated the owners of the SYC and the MPDCo businesses and the owner of the
South Lake Office Building have requested a change to the draft text amendment that would allow the
properties where the SYC and MPDCo are located to be redeveloped for uses other than residential.
Mike Maloney, 231 Third Street, stated he co-owned the SYC with Gabriel Jabbour and they had no
intention to request using the SYC property for some other type of use for the foreseeable future. He then
stated the SYC property is appropriately zoned. He requested the draft text amendment be modified to
allow redevelopment options other than residential.
Director Nielsen clarified no zoning changes to the SYC and MPDCo properties were being
recommended at this time, He explained the SYC property is consistent with the Comp Plan and with the
L-R (Lakeshore Recreational) zoning of the property. The MPDCo property is in the C-2, Commercial
Service District (which had previously been named the C-4 District).
Gabriel Jabbour, 985 Tonka Road in Orono, stated he is a co-owner of the SYC. From his vantage point,
the SYC and MPDCo businesses were so intermingled because of easements he did not think they could
operate without the existence of the other. If the MPDCo property were to be redeveloped residential, the
SYC would be in the residents' back yards. He seriously urged the Planning Commission and the City to
not to consider guiding the redevelopment of the two properties for residential use only, noting that is
different than the adopted Comp Plan. He explained the MPDCo property can be developed for other uses
allowed in the C-2 District, and to change the zoning of that property would take away rights he currently
has for the use of that property. He stated the process of amending the Comp Plan regarding the
redevelopment of Planning District 6 is being driven by the City. He explained he had spoken with
representatives from the HCCRA and they expressed they did not have issue with the property being
redeveloped for other uses. He also explained the only probable reason the HCRRA would revoke the
easement would be because light rail was planned for the use of the trail, although he did not think there
would be light rail there in his lifetime.
Mr. Jabbour then stated Shorewood and neighboring communities are changing. Residents no longer want
to have long commutes to their places of employment. He thought it would be prudent to provide
opportunities for residents to work in the area. The community needed to have paid-on-call firefighters
who worked in the community so they could respond to public safety calls. Therefore, redevelopment of
the properties for light commercial use should be considered as an allowable use.
Chair Schmitt opened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:22 P.M.
Steve Farnes, 5445 Timer Lane, stated he was confused with the proposed zoning change.
Chair Schmitt explained a zoning change is not being proposed at this time. He stated the Planning
Commission reviews the City's Comp Plan periodically. The Comp Plan identifies what the City's goals
are for different zoning districts. The proposed draft text amendment to the Comp Plan states what the
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City's preference would be if the properties were to be redeveloped they should be redeveloped
residential. The Comp Plan is a guide.
Director Nielsen stated ordinarily when a change is made to the Comp Plan regarding land use there is
also a corresponding change made to the City's Zoning Code. No change to the Zoning Code is being
proposed at this time. If the SYC and MPDCo properties were rezoned for residential use their current
uses would be grandfathered in; but, they would not be allowed to make changes or improvements as a
nonconforming use. He clarified the City was not trying to push the SYC and MPDCo out; both
businesses are valuable to the community. He stated discussion of redevelopment possibilities for the
SYC property began in 2005 when the SYC was put up for sale. All developers interested in the SYC
property were also interested in the MPDCo property, which was not for sale. Potential developers had a
variety of ideas on how the SYC property could be developed. He explained the only allowable use for
the SYC property, which is zone Lakeshore Recreational, is a multiple dock facility. If the SYC property
owners ever want to use the property for something else they would have to request a Comp Plan
amendment and a change in zoning classification. There are other allowable C-2 District uses for the
MPDCo property. The proposed draft text amendment to the Comp Plan was intended to prepare the City
for a possible redevelopment.
JoAnn Schaub, 5465 Timber Lane, requested if the SYC and/or MPDCo properties were sold or if the
SYC and/or MPDCo businesses cease to exist the reuse of the properties should be directed to residential,
at similar densities as the surrounding area. Director Nielsen clarified the properties businesses can
change ownership under the draft text amendment without forcing a change in land use.
Nick Ruehl, 456 Lafayette Avenue, Excelsior, stated he purchased his property in 1974. The MPDCo was
in operation at that time and the current SYC property had single family house on it. In the 1975/1976
timeframe a sailboat marina was developed on the current SYC property. When he purchased his property
he understood MPDCo was operating close to his property. He grew to have a wonderful relationship
with the owners of MPDCo. The sailboat marina/yacht club was developed after he purchased his house.
In his discussions about the future development of a sailboat marina he expressed three concerns to the
John Cross the owner of the property. They were halyards snapping, late night parties at the marina and
the sale of gas. Although he had concerns, he thought Mr. Cross had the right to develop his property as a
sailboat marina. He stated he would like the properties to revert to residential use if they were to be
redeveloped. He noted he had no problem with the current businesses on those two properties,
In response to a question from a member of the audience, Commissioner Geng explained pursuant to
State Statute and the Metropolitan Council all cities are required to review and update their
comprehensive plans on a regular basis.
Steve Haskins, 5455 Timer Lane, questioned what would happen if the SYC business ceased to exist.
Chair Schmitt explained that the draft text amendment has nothing to do with the current owners ceasing
to operate the SYC; it has to do with what how the City would prefer to have that property used if it were
to be redeveloped. Today the MPDCo property is zone C-2, Commercial Service, and the SYC property is
zone L-R, Lakeshore Residential. The Comp Plan is a guide for how the City would like to see the
properties redeveloped.
Council Liaison Turgeon stated she thought the residents were hoping the Planning Commission would
recommend that the Comp Plan be amended to state if the SYC property were to be redeveloped it would
have to be redeveloped residential rather than allowing it do be redeveloped for a different use.
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Mr. Jabbour stated he hoped that he and Mr. Maloney had proved they were responsible business people
and were considerate of the residents around their SYC business. They did not want the City to accelerate
the evolution of the SYC property. If the City were to say the MPDCo property could only be
redeveloped as residential then from his vantage point the City would have to pay him the difference
between the value of that property if it were zoned C-2 and if it were zoned residential. He understood the
City was not trying to take the SYC and MPDCo businesses away. The draft text amendment states the
SYC and MPDCo properties should be redeveloped as residential (if there are redeveloped) at similar
densities as the surrounding area. It appeared that the only zoning being considered was in Shorewood,
yet if the HCRRA easement were to be revoked West Lake Street in Excelsior would have to be used to
access the two properties. He thought it would be appropriate to have a recommendation for reuse of the
property if the easement were revoked and West Lake Street was used to access the property and another
assuming the easement remains in effect. He noted that he had the right to redevelop the MPDCo property
for other allowable C-2 District uses.
In response to a comment from Ms. Schaub, Chair Schmitt stated Mr. Jabbour was not asking the City to
do anything and no one was proposing redeveloping the properties similar to the site plan concept sketch
and the building plan concept sketch submitted. He explained Mr. Jabbour did not want the Comp Plan to
be amended with regard to the SCY and MPDCo properties.
Marjorie Yaeger, 5445 timber Lane, stated if the properties were to be redeveloped she would like them
to be redeveloped as residential.
Lucille Goodwine 5525 Timber Lane, stated she wanted the City to make it clear that if the SYC and
MPDCo properties were to be redeveloped then they should be redeveloped for residential use.
In response to a question from Ms. Schaub, Director Nielsen explained the owners of the SYC, MPDCo,
Garden Patch Nursery and the South Lake Office Building commercial businesses requested a
continuance of the May 20t'' public hearing to allow them time to prepare and submit potential
redevelopment concept sketches.
In response to a question from Mr. Farnes, Director Nielsen stated the Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources (DNR) has certain standards (e.g., setbacks, hardcover, and environmental aspects) that must
be met when a shoreland properly is redeveloped. Land use is determined by the local authority.
Mr. Farnes stated from his vantage point one of the reasons people live in the City is because of its low
density residential properties, with low crime rates and good public safety. He did not think a developer
would improve that. He then stated the residents were present this evening to defend a life style, and
developers want to make money. Low density residential development has made the City a strong
community and a desirable place to live.
Chair Schmitt closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:47 P.M.
Commissioner Gagne stated if the HCRRA revoked the easement to cross the trail, access to the SYC and
MPDCo properties would have to come from West Lake Street in Excelsior independent of the land use
of those properties. He then stated he became a Shorewood resident in 1961 and since then he has
observed a lot of changes to the City, some of which he liked and some of which he didn't. At some point
the land use for the two properties will change. He noted that there is some higher density residential
property near the properties. He did not want to amend the Comp Plan in a way that could cause problems
in the future. He clarified he would not be in support of a tall condominium building being built in the
area.
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Commissioner Geng stated he was satisfied with the draft text amendment language.
Commissioner Gniffke stated he also was satisfied with the draft amendment language, and his reason
was the access issue over the HCRRA trail.
Chair Schmitt stated he was not in support of the draft text amendment. He then stated one of the things
he values about being a Shorewood resident is having access to Lake Minnetonka. If the use of the SYC
and MPDCo properties becomes residential then that public access goes away, noting that they are private
properties today but there still is some public access to the Lake. He does have some reservation about
commercial businesses having to possibly access their facilities from West Lake Street, but that would
happen for the SYC and MPDCo businesses today if the easement with the HCCRA is revoked. He would
like the language in the Comp Plan regarding Planning District 6 to remain as it is in the adopted Comp
Plan.
Commissioner Vilett stated Chair Schmitt's point is very valid, and she thinks having Lakeshore
Recreational property is important.
In response to a question from Council Liaison Turgeon, Mr. Jabbour stated the easement agreement goes
with the property and not the property owner.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hutchins, Director Nielsen explained the DNR had
approached the City about the possibility of acquiring some of the SYC property for a public access. The
City steered them away from using the site for public access because of the intensification of use in a
residential area and access to the property over the HCRRA trail.
Chair Schmitt clarified he was not suggesting the properties be redeveloped as a public access site to Lake
Minnetonka. He stated there are only three non-residential access points to the Lake in the City and they
are the SYC, Howards Point Marina and the Upper Minnetonka Yacht Club. He thought it was important
to keep the access to the Lake.
Director Nielsen stated the draft text amendment language states any redevelopment of the SYC and
MPDCo properties would best be accomplished through the use of planned unit development. Nothing
would preclude the City from trying to ensure some type of public access to the Lake remained.
Gagne moved, Hutchins seconded, recommending the language in the Shorewood Comprehensive
Plan regarding Planning District 6 remain the same as in the adopted Plan. Motion passed 6/0.
Chair Schmitt closed the Public Hearing at 8:00 P.M.
3. STUDY SESSION:
Comp Plan -Community Facilities
Director Nielsen asked the Planning Commission to review the draft revised Community Facilities
Chapter of the Comprehensive Plan he delivered to the Commissioners the previous evening and come
prepared to discuss it at the 21 October 2008 Planning Commission study session.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
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There were no matters from the floor presented this evening.
5. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
Director Nielsen stated the 21 October 2008 Planning Commission study session will be devoted to
discussing the draft revisions to the Community Facilities and Transportation Chapters of the
Comprehensive Plan.
6. REPORTS
• Liaison to Council
Colmnissioner Vilett reported on matters considered and actions taken at the 22 September 22 2008 City
Council regular meeting (as detailed in the minutes of that meeting).
• SLUC
No report was given.
• Other
None.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Gagne moved, Hutchins seconded, Adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of 7 October
2008 at 8:07 P.M. Motion passed 6/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Christine Freeman, Recorder