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CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, 17 NOVEMBER 2009 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Geng called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Geng; Commissioners Arnst, Gagne, Hasek, Hutchins, Ruoff and Vilett; Planning
Director Nielsen; and Council Liaison Turgeon
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
6 October 2009
Gagne moved, Hutchins seconded, Approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of 6
October 2009 as amended in Roll Call change “Absent: None” to “Absent: Commissioner
Hutchins”. Motion passed 7/0.
1. 7:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING – C.U.P. - TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES
Applicant: Clear Wireless, LLC
Location: 26352 Smithtown Road (Minnewashta Water Tower)
Chair Geng opened the Public Hearing at 7:00 P.M., noting the procedures utilized in a Public Hearing.
He explained items acted upon this evening would be placed on a November 23, 2009, Regular City
Council meeting agenda for further review and consideration.
Director Nielsen stated Christopher Coughlin, representing Clear Wireless, LLC (Clearwire), has applied
for three conditional use permits (C.U.P.) to install telecommunications facilities at three locations in the
City. Site 1 is the Minnewashta Water Tower site located at 26352 Smithtown Road. Site 2 is the
Southeast Area Water Tower site located at 5500 Old Market Road. Site 3 is a private property located at
24285 County Road 19. Sites 1 and 2 are located in R-1A, Single-Family Residential zoning districts. Site
3 is located in a C-1, General Commercial zoning district. Because the rules for the sites are the same and
issues associated with each site are similar he stated he will discuss the three applications at the same
time.
Nielsen explained in all three applications the applicant proposes to mount three panel type antennas and
three “backhaul” antennas as well as place a small array of ground equipment on each site. On Site 1 the
antennas will be mounted on the stem of the water tower approximately 120 feet high. The ground
equipment will be located between the two equipment shelters on the site. On Site 2 the antennas will be
mounted on the stem of the water tower, approximately 90 feet high. The ground equipment is proposed
to be located on the east side of the base of the water tower. On Site 3 the equipment will be located on an
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existing monopole, approximately 125 feet high. The ground equipment will be located within an existing
equipment compound at the base of the existing monopole. Nielsen displayed the site configurations for
each of the three locations noting where the antennas and ground equipment will be located.
With regard to the analysis of the case, Nielsen explained Telecommunications facilities are governed by
the Telecommunications Act of 1995. The City’s regulations are consistent with the Federal requirements.
These regulations are found in Section 1201.03 Subd. 21 of the City Code. The City Code suggests any
new telecommunications carriers should be located on existing towers (i.e., City water towers) wherever
possible before constructing additional freestanding towers. Although much of the current Code addresses
new, freestanding tower sites, there are several provisions that are relevant to location of facilities on
existing towers. Those provisions are as follows.
1. Finish – The proposed antennas must be finished to match the color of the existing water
tower.
2. Proposed Ground Facilities –On Sites 1 and 3 the ground equipment would be very well
screened from view. On Site 2 the equipment would be visible from the east (Old Market
Road). The topography and an existing easement precludes locating the facilities on the
south or west side of the tower where it would be less visible. The applicant has proposed
to plant a double row of Black Hills Spruce trees on the east side of the driveway to the
site to mitigate the visibility issue. The trees should be a minimum of six feet in height
and they should be planted no later than 1 June 2010. A condition of approval is the
applicant must submit a letter of credit for one and one-half times the bid price for the
plantings. The letter should extend at least to 30 June 2011 to ensure the plants survive
into the next growing season.
3.Fencing – On Sites 1 and 3 the ground equipment would be located within
existing fenced compounds. No security fencing is proposed for Site 2 because
the newer ground equipment is housed in secure, free-standing metal cabinets.
4. Landscaping – Landscaping is not an issue for Sites 1 and 3. Landscaping for Site 2 is
addressed under proposed ground facilities above.
5. Stealth – Locating antennas on existing towers or water towers is undoubtedly less
visually obtrusive than building new freestanding towers.
6. Evaluation and Monitoring – City Code requires initial and ongoing monitoring of FCC
radiation emission requirements. The City’s standard lease agreements between
telecommunications carriers and the City provide for annual monitoring and, if necessary,
testing. The City uses Owl Engineering for such work. A condition of approval is the
antenna installation is subject to the review, recommendations and approval of Owl
Engineering.
7. Engineering – The City Engineer has reviewed the plans and offered some
recommendations regarding structural and operational issues.
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Nielsen stated Staff recommends approval of the three conditional use permits subject to the following
conditions.
1. The recommendations of the City Engineer with respect to structural and operational
issues. (The City Engineer has an outside firm do the structural analysis to make sure the
equipment doesn’t damage the City’s tower.)
2. The applicant must enter into the City’s lease agreement including provisions for annual
monitoring.
3. The applicant must submit a bid for landscaping on Site 2. The City should require a
letter of credit or cash escrow for one and one-half times the amount of the bid and
extending to at least 30 June 2011.
Director Nielsen noted Chuck Beisner, representing Clearwire, was present this evening to answer any
questions the Planning Commission may have.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hasek, Director Nielsen explained the current lease rate for
water tower space is $1500 per month per antenna array (up to nine antennas). Hasek asked if Clearwire
had any desire to plant the trees this fall. Mr. Beisner stated construction will not be started until the end
of the year. Hasek stated he thought it was very nice of Clearwire to offer to plant trees at Site 2, noting
the trees will hide other equipment already there.
In response to a question from Commissioner Gagne, Director Nielsen explained that if
telecommunications companies go out of business their equipment is usually taken down.
Commissioner Gagne stated when the first antennas were put up on the Southeast Area Water Tower the
intent was to escrow the revenues from leasing tower space and use it for maintaining the towers. He has
been told that the revenues from tower space rentals go into the General Fund. Director Nielsen stated he
thought that was correct. Nielsen commented some rental funds had been used to purchase the Gideon
Glen site. Nielsen explained the Southeast Area Water Tower was painted recently and the
telecommunications companies had to take their equipment down and put it back up at their expense and
put up a temporary unit for a while. The cost of the painting came out of the Water Fund. Gagne stated
because the space on the towers has been commercialized he thought the revenues from the lease should
go toward maintaining the towers. He asked that this be communicated to Council. Council Liaison
Turgeon stated she doesn’t remember lease revenues being used to purchase Gideon Glen. She also stated
she would be happy to research the use of the revenues further.
In response to a question from Commissioner Ruoff, Director Nielsen stated he was not sure which tower
had the most antennas on it. In response to another question from Ruoff, Nielsen explained the lease is a
20-year lease that must be renewed every five years. In response to another question, Nielsen explained
the telecommunications company pays for the electromagnetic frequency testing of their equipment both
initially and annually.
In response to a question from Commissioner Ruoff, Mr. Beisner explained Clearwire’s equipment is
used to transmit data. Its main competitor is Comcast. Clearwire’s plan is to install its equipment on 500
sites in this market.
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Commissioner Hutchins asked if the Lake Minnetonka Communications Commission had any exclusivity
agreement with MediaCom. Council Liaison Turgeon thought that would only be for the televising of
public meetings.
Seeing no one present wishing to comment on this case, Chair Geng opened and closed the Public
Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:26 P.M.
Hasek moved, Arnst seconded, recommending approval of a conditional use permit for Clearwire
Wireless, LLC to locate telecommunications facilities at 26352 Smithtown Road on the
Minnewashta Water Tower site subject to Staff recommendations. Motion passed 7/0.
Chair Geng closed the Public Hearing at 7:26 P.M.
2. 7:10 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING – C.U.P - TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES
Applicant: ClearWireless, LLC
Location: 24285 Smithtown Road (Co. Rd. 19 Monopole)
Chair Geng opened the Public Hearing at 7:26 P.M.
This conditional use permit application was discussed as part of Item 1.
Seeing no one present wishing to comment on this case, Chair Geng opened and closed the Public
Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:26 P.M.
Hasek moved, Gagne seconded, recommending approval of a conditional use permit for Clearwire
Wireless, LLC to locate telecommunications facilities at 24845 Smithtown Road on a monopole on
private property subject to Staff recommendations. Motion passed 7/0.
Chair Geng closed the Public Hearing at 7:27 P.M.
3. 7:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING – C.U.P. - TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES
Applicant: ClearWireless, LLC
Location: 5500 Old Market Road (S.E. Area Water Tower)
Chair Geng opened the Public Hearing at 7:28 P.M.
This conditional use permit application was discussed as part of Item 1.
Seeing no one present wishing to comment on this case, Chair Geng opened and closed the Public
Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:28M.
Commissioner Arnst asked who will be responsible for watering the trees at Site 2. Director Nielsen
explained the applicant will be responsible for doing that the first two years and then it becomes the
City’s responsibility.
Arnst moved, Hutchins seconded, recommending approval of a conditional use permit for
Clearwire Wireless, LLC to locate telecommunications facilities at 5500 Old Market Road on the
Southeast Area Water Tower site subject to Staff recommendations. Motion passed 7/0.
Chair Geng closed the Public Hearing at 7:30 P.M.
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4. DISCUSS PROPOSED LAND USE TEXT FOR COMP PLAN
Director Nielsen stated just prior to the meeting he had distributed a copy of proposed text Staff
recommends be added to the City’s Comprehensive Plan to address some of the comments made by the
Metropolitan (Met) Council. The proposed text would fit in under Land Use/Zoning Changes in the
Comprehensive Plan. He asked if the Planning Commission wanted to take a short break to review the
text.
The proposed text distributed follows.
“The Metropolitan Council’s Regional Development Framework policy standard for sewered
residential development density in an overall average minimum of three units per acre for new
development and five or more units per acre for redevelopment and infill in “Developed”
communities – with higher densities expected in locations with convenient access to transportation
corridors and adequate sewer capacity. Given the extent and pattern of existing development in
Shorewood very little opportunity exists to achieve higher densities. This is compounded by the fact
that only half of the city has municipal water service and existing streets are not designed for higher
traffic volumes that would accompany higher density housing. Nor does the area have adequate mass
transit to support higher density. There are, however, a couple of potential redevelopment locations
that could support some sort of higher density housing. The site currently occupied by Xcel Energy
on County Road 19, if redeveloped, may be suitable for higher density housing or some sort of mixed
use development, combining residential and nonresidential activities. This site could yield as many
as 29 to 49 residential units. Similarly, and likely sooner, the northwest quadrant of Smithtown
Crossing is viewed as being an excellent redevelopment project. Again, a mixed use approach to that
area could yield as many as 24 to 40 units, depending on the type of housing proposed. These two
sites have the potential to attain the average minimum sought by the Metropolitan Council when
combined with lower density infill development over the next several years.”
Chair Geng recessed the meeting at 7:31 P.M.
Chair Geng reconvened the meeting at 7:35 P.M.
Director Nielsen stated during its 6 October 2009 meeting the Planning Commission and Staff discussed
comments made by the Met Council relative to the City’s Comprehensive Plan (Comp Plan). Many of the
comments were technical in nature or required minor revisions. The comments about land use density and
housing affordability warranted some policy discussion. If the City were to take the Met Council’s
comments about density exactly as stated the City would have to require a minimum of three units per
acre for new development, and a minimum of five units per acre for redevelopment and infill. That is
higher than what the City’s Zoning Code requires.
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Nielsen explained Staff has met with Met Council representatives since the October 6 meeting. The
representatives appear to have understood that if the City has an area zoned for half acre lots that the
City’s not expected to require five houses be built on the lot. The representatives appeared to be willing to
allow the City to have a land use plan that would allow lower density development that could be averaged
out with higher density development. They also agreed that the “potential” for higher densities was
adequate for their purposes. This is important because the market will dictate somewhat how a property is
redeveloped.
Nielsen then explained Staff has identified two areas that could possibly be redeveloped with a higher
density residential component. The Comp Plan already indicates that if the area where Xcel Energy is
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located is redeveloped it could be a mixed use development with a higher density residential component.
He does not foresee Xcel energy leaving the site for quite some time. The second area is the northwest
quadrant of the County Road 19 and Smithtown Road intersection which is primarily zoned commercial
currently. The City’s Ordinance could be amended to allow for mixed use redevelopment.
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Nielsen went on to explain that during the October 6 meeting Staff had suggested senior housing could
make sense for the higher density residential developments because there will be an increasing market for
senior housing in the future. The Planning Commission indicated it did not want the Comp Plan to be that
specific before it did some additional study. The text does not say it will be senior housing; it says some
sort of higher density housing. The densities are consistent with what the Code allows for senior housing.
If one of the properties were to be zoned R-3, Multiple Family Housing six units to the acre could not be
achieved. The only thing that will currently achieve the required level of density is senior housing. The
Met Council wanted a range of residential units that could potentially come out of the two sites. For the
Xcel site it could potentially be as many as 29 – 49 units. For the northwest quadrant it could potentially
be as many as 24 – 40 units.
With regard to affordable housing, Nielsen stated the Comp Plan will just acknowledge the Met Council’s
goal of 53 units within the 2011 – 2020 period. The City is not committing to that. He thought senior
housing is the best way to achieve that affordability.
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Nielsen stated his goal is to submit the revisions to Met Council by November 30. He asked the Planning
Commissioners if they were comfortable with the proposed text as written.
Commissioner Hasek asked what constitutes affordable housing. Director Nielsen stated an affordable
unit is valued at $160,000 or less.
Chair Geng commented he was aware of minimum care assisted living facility where the yearly rental
cost is approximately $40,000. He thought that would fall within the affordability limit. Director Nielsen
stated that amount of money is much higher than what is allowed for affordable rent. Some combination
of senior apartments and senior care facility might be able to achieve affordable housing. Geng stated the
senior apartments in the City of Spring Park rent for $1,200 - $1,500 per month.
Commissioner Arnst asked if the affordable housing factor is based on the value of the unit when it was
constructed or can it apply to existing small homes. Director Nielsen stated existing older, small homes
can count toward affordable housing. He noted the Comp Plan states the City wants to preserve some of
those types of homes, but there are few of them. He commented that the City of Minnetonka is buying
some of the less expensive homes in that city, and then it sells the house to someone at an affordable rate
while keeping control of the land. The agreement between Minnetonka and the buyer is such that the
buyer can only sell the house for a certain percent above their purchase price. This program may be
worthwhile but it doesn’t do much to achieve affordable housing numbers.
Director Nielsen stated once an affordable house is built it usually doesn’t stay classified as such for long.
For example, when Shorewood Ponds project was approved it was to have affordable housing but the
units were out of the affordable range by the time the first units were sold.
Commissioner Hutchins stated he thought it was unfortunate the Met Council was placing so much
emphasis on affordable housing. He explained high density facilities are the most over built residential
units today. He commented that he is aware of condominiums being sold for substantially less than what
it cost to construct them.
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Director Nielsen stated the Met Council had indicated its not out to change the character of the City which
is 95 percent developed.
In response to a question from Commissioner Arnst, Director Nielsen explained the Met Council has
more leverage with developing cities that need the sewer system expanded into the community. It has
little leverage with the City.
Hasek moved, Arnst seconded, accepting the proposed text be added to the Comprehensive Plan
under Land Use/Zoning Changes. Motion passed 7/0.
5. DISCUSS ONLINE COUNCIL PACKETS FOR COMMISSION LIAISONS
Director Nielsen stated this may be a moot point now. He explained Council at one time had discussed
going to electronic copies of the Council meeting packet. Councilmembers, Staff and liaisons to the
meetings would all have laptops to access the packets. When this agenda was prepared his intent was to
ask the Planning Commission liaisons to Council if they would like to receive the meeting packets
electronically. He asked if the Planning Commissioners would prefer using an electronic copy.
Commissioner Gagne stated he preferred to have a hardcopy of the meeting packet.
Commissioner Hutchins stated at the company he works for an extra net (a separate part of the company’s
network) was established to allow the company’s board to electronically access current and archived
meeting packets.
There was Planning Commission consensus to continue to pick up a hardcopy of the packet prior to
entering Council Chambers.
6. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no matters from the floor presented this evening.
7. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
Director Nielsen stated the Planning Commission will have its annual variance discussion during the 1
December 2009 Planning Commission study session.
Commissioner Arnst asked when the Commission will identify goals and objectives for 2010, to which
Director Nielsen responded in January 2010. She asked what the Commission’s goals and objectives are
for 2009. Director Nielsen stated he would provide Commissioner Hasek and her with a copy of the
Commission’s 2009 work program, noting they were not members of the Commission when the work
program was developed.
Commissioner Arnst asked how the Commission arrives at its goals and objectives. Director Nielsen
stated some of them come from the City’s Comprehensive Plan, some things are identified during the year
relating to zoning or the City’s Zoning Ordinance, and some are identified by Council and the
Commission.
Commissioner Arnst asked if the Commission had input into new ideas for goals and objectives, to which
Director Nielsen responded it does. She stated if the Commission doesn’t start to identify its goals and
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objectives until January they likely won’t be solidified until March. By that time one-fourth of the year is
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already gone. She suggested the Commission start the discussion during the December 1 study session.
Nielsen stated he would not have anything prepared for that because he has to concentrate his efforts on
finishing the Comp Plan the rest of this month. The Commission could review the 2009 work program.
Commissioner Hasek stated he still has not received a copy of the County Road 19 Corridor Study.
Director Nielsen stated he would send a copy of the study out to all of the Commissioners.
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There was consensus to start the 2010 goals discussion during the December 1 study session.
8. REPORTS
• Liaison to Council
Commissioner Hasek reported on matters considered and actions taken at the November 9, 2009, Regular
City Council meeting (as detailed in the minutes of that meeting). Council Liaison elaborated on the
meeting.
The Planning Commission recommended the approved resolution asking Hennepin County to improve
signage at the trail crossings be forwarded to Hennepin County as soon as possible.
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Commissioner Hasek stated he viewed the video recording of the November 9 Council meeting on
television, noting he had also attended the meeting. He thought the video recording was very poor and
very disjointed, and it appeared that only half of the microphones were on at any one time. He stated it’s
important to have the camera on the person who is speaking. He thought if there is something that could
be done to improve the recordings from a public standpoint that would be wonderful. He explained that
you can’t hear the public if they make a spontaneous comment. Commissioner Arnst commented that
when she had watched a recording of a meeting in the new Council Chamber the camera was often on the
wrong person.
• SLUC
Commissioner Hasek gave a report on the Sensible Land Use Coalition program titled “City Confidential:
Doing More without Digging Deeper” which was held on October 28, 2009. He stated it would have been
an interesting program for every resident in the City to be at. He explained there were three guest
speakers; one from the City of Oakdale, one from the City of Plymouth and one from the City of
Minnetonka. They were city administrators or of similar position.
His summary of the points he took away from the meeting are as follows.
Taxes will go up. Federal and state government will not be helping cities as they have in
the past. Politicians are not being realistic when they say taxes will not go up.
Cities need to stick to the issues of public safety, health and welfare in a fundamental
way. Services that are not that important need to be cut and cut for good; not a one or two
year cut.
City staff will have to be condensed because cities don’t have the funds to pay separate
staffs. City staffs and people have to take on more responsibility.
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Cities need to consider budgets from the perspective of how they will impact the city and
its residents for the long term. There was an example used of planting trees: trees are
planted for future generations. Cities need to think about what is going to happen ten,
twenty and thirty years from now.
Commissioner Hasek cited an example presented during the program. One city has made the decision to
groom and mow the ball fields in that city’s parks weekly rather then three times a week. Parents will
have to rake and stripe the fields. That city spends about $200,000 dollars a year to provide that service.
Commissioner Arnst asked how the Planning Commission and Council are notified of upcoming SLUC
programs. Director Nielsen stated the Commissioners are provided and hardcopy and sent an email. Some
of the Commissioners stated they do not receive emails. Arnst suggested City staff forward the agenda of
upcoming meetings when the City receives them which is a month in advance.
Commissioner Arnst stated the next SLUC the program titled “History, Culture and Secrets of the
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Minneapolis Riverfront” is scheduled for December 2. Linda Mack, a former Star Tribune reporter, will
be the guest speaker.
• Other
Commissioner Gagne asked what the status is of the location of the former carpet store at the northwest
quadrant of County Road 19 and Smithtown Road. Director Nielsen stated Heartbreaker purchased the
building and he heard it is currently using it for storage. Heartbreaker’s intent is to have office space and
storage in the location. Staff is looking at the plans. He noted that there is no longer a pursuit of having a
Subway restaurant in that location.
Commissioner Ruoff stated some of the new property owners in his neighborhood have had their wells
tested for arsenic recently and have found out the level of arsenic in their wells exceed the acceptable
threshold levels. He explained that since he had bought his property about eleven years ago the acceptable
threshold of arsenic has been lowered. He suggested the City inform residents of this threshold change as
a public service. Director Nielsen stated the City has published articles about arsenic in its newsletter and
on its website.
Commissioner Ruoff stated the parking lot at the Minnewashta Grade School had been expanded and
improved a while back. He explained it’s difficult for two large SUV vehicles to pass next to the islands
in the parking lot. He suggested the City keep that in mind should the Minnetonka School District want to
do any other improvements.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Vilett moved, Arnst seconded, Adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of 17 November 2009
at 8:30 P.M. Motion passed 5/0
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Christine Freeman, Recorder