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CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2015 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chair Davis called the meeting to order at 7:02 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Geng; Vice-Chair Davis; Commissioners Bean, Johnson and Maddy; Planning
Director Nielsen; and, Council Liaison Woodruff
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Bean asked that Item 2 and Item 3 be discussed before Item 1.
Bean moved, Maddy seconded, approving the agenda for December 1, 2015, as amended. Motion
passed 5/0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
November 17, 2015
Maddy moved, Bean seconded, approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of November
17, 2015, as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
Discussion moved to Item 2 on the agenda.
1. PUBLIC HEARING – REVISED CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STAGE
PLANS – MINNETONKA COUNTRY CLUB PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Applicant: Mattamy Homes
Location: 24575 Smithtown Road
This was discussed after Item 3 on the agenda.
Vice-Chair Davis opened the Public Hearing at 7:16 noting the procedures used in a Public Hearing. She
explained the Planning Commission is comprised of residents of the City of Shorewood who are serving
as volunteers on the Commission. The Commissioners are appointed by the City Council. The
Commission’s role is to help the City Council in determining zoning and planning issues. One of the
Commission’s responsibilities is to hold public hearings and to help develop the factual record for an
application and to make a non-binding recommendation to the City Council. The recommendation is
advisory only. She stated this evening the Planning Commission is going to consider a revised concept
plan and Development Stage plans for the Minnetonka Country Club (MCC) Planned Unit Development
(PUD) for Mattamy Homes, 24575 Smithtown Road.
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She noted that due to the size and complexity of this project and the issues that still need to be resolved
staff has recommended that this Hearing be continued to the Commission’s January 5, 2016, meeting. She
anticipates the Commission will make a recommendation that evening.
She asked that those in the audience wishing to speak keep their comments as short as possible and to not
repeat points that have already been made.
Vice-Chair Davis stated she assumes the Planning Commission will comment on this during its January 5
meeting. Director Nielsen clarified he thought the Commission should comment on things that they
thought may have been missed after the Public Testimony portion of this Hearing is closed.
Director Nielsen explained that in October 2015 the City adopted a resolution (No. 15-073) approving a
concept plan for Mattamy Homes to redevelop the MCC property as a residential PUD consisting of up to
140 single-family homes. The project consisted of traditional single-family residential and age-targeted
single-family residential. The developer has since submitted an application for the second stage of the
review process – the Development Stage.
Since then the developer was approached by the owner (Venero) of an adjoining property on the west side
of the Mattamy site to purchase the back portion of that property along Seamans Drive for inclusion into
the Mattamy project. That coupled with the loss of one age-targeted unit due to tree preservation has
brought the total number of units for the project to 142, 39 age-targeted units and 103 traditional homes.
The current application includes a request for a revision to the original concept plan. The City Attorney
has stated that because the change to the concept plan does not have a significant impact on the overall
development the PUD process does not have to be restarted from the beginning.
Director Nielsen stated the Commission has been provided with three staff reports regarding issues
associated with the Development Stage plans. They are: a planning report from him regarding the
Development Stage plans, a memorandum from Northwest Associated Consultants (NAC) that addresses
natural resource and trail issues, and a letter from the City Engineer that addresses engineering
(transportation and utilities) issues. The memo from NAC and the Engineer’s report are quite technical in
nature so he will not go through them in detail. The planning report is more about policy.
He explained that for the Commission’s January 5 meeting he hopes that the issues raised in the reports
would be resolved and that a punch list would have been created of items that would be included on
revised plans for the Final Plan Stage and items that would be included in the development agreement.
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With regard to natural resources, Nielsen explained he memorandum from NAC addresses natural
resource issues such as wetland protection, tree preservation and landscaping, and treatment of the open
space portions of the site. Following are the issues he thought were worth highlighting.
1. Public Open Space – The developer has chosen to include two small areas along the west side of
the proposed trail that would have a maintained turf. He displayed and highlighted aspects of that
Plan. In the Concept Stage of the process, it was recommended that the public open space areas
would be natural and low-maintenance. The City chose not to acquire park land because there is
Badger Park to the east of the site and Freeman Park to the west of it. Those two areas would be
for the benefit of residents living on the redeveloped site. If the City is agreeable to this design,
the development agreement for the PUD should include provisions for the homeowners
association (HOA) and declaration of covenants for the HOA to be responsible for
maintenance/mowing of those areas.
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2. Tree Preservation and Landscaping –The developer’s plan for tree replacement includes planting
of “street trees” along all streets in the development. These are trees that would be planted in the
boulevard areas of the public right-of-way (ROW). They would be located just in from the curb
and between the street and the sidewalk where there is sidewalk. Although staff is in agreement
that the overall effect of the design can be quite desirable, they are concerned about adding the
potential liability of new trees in the public ROW. The developer has agreed to include provisions
in the development agreement stating that the HOA would be responsible for maintenance of
street trees. The NAC has recommended that there be a variety of tree types planted. From the
beginning, the intent has been to maintain as much vegetation as possible around the perimeter of
the entire site. Buckthorn, an invasive species, currently helps screen the site and the City usually
asks a developer to remove it from a site. There has been discussion about possibly removing the
buckthorn after the new landscaping has been established. There are a couple of homes across
from the end of the cul-de-sac close to the street where the developer would provide landscaping.
3. Renewable Energy Resource Opportunities – One issue not addressed in the NAC report (but
flagged early on in the review process) is the identification of renewable energy resource
opportunities. The City has contracted with energy consultant Great Plains Institute to do a
“Shorewood Renewable Energy Analysis” which sets forth recommendations relative to
alternative energy possibilities in Shorewood. Solar power appears to warrant some
consideration. The Great Plains report makes several recommendations as to how Shorewood’s
development regulations might be amended to address solar energy. Following are those most
pertinent to the MCC project.
A. Solar gardens – The Great Plains report states: “There may be opportunity for a moderately
sized solar garden within the golf course, but until the site is finalized and the city retains
ownership of the wetland area, it cannot be determined how much solar is available at this
time. Other considerations will include complications associated with building on or near a
wetland and the proximity of utility infrastructure with adequate capacity to interconnect
with such a solar development.”
While this recommendation may have merit, it requires further study. The City will have to
determine whether such a use fits in the natural open space areas to be acquired. Questions
about who builds, who owns, and who maintains the installation must be answered. In
previous discussions of solar gardens, the issue of security was also raised. These questions
need not be answered at this time. What is known is that the land would be public and
available should the City decide to pursue that as an option.
B. Zoning Issues – Great Plains has recommended the following possible zoning provisions that
could be incorporated into the development agreement for the PUD
1. Early on the developer agreed to not include provisions in the declaration of protective
covenants for the project that would preclude either roof-mounted or ground-mounted
solar installations within the development.
2. Add solar equipment as allowable accessory uses in the development.
3. Allow solar equipment to extend 3-4 feet above the peak of the roofs, either by right, or
through a conditional use process. This one deserves close scrutiny from the standpoint of
need and aesthetics. Prior to the next Planning Commission meeting, staff will attempt to
find actual photos of such installations.
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4. Allow solar equipment to encroach into required setbacks. The Code does allow certain
encroachments (e.g., roof eaves, chimney chases and so forth) two feet into required
setbacks. This same exception could be considered for solar equipment. The setback
requirement for swimming pools in rear yards is 60 percent of the required rear yard
setback. This could also apply to solar installations.
5. Accessory structures are currently limited to 15 feet in height. The Great Plains report
suggests going to 20 feet for ground-mounted solar equipment. Accessory buildings may
actually exceed 15 feet (the measurement is taken from grade to the mid-point between
the eave and the peak). Therefore, 20 feet for solar equipment may be appropriate.
6. The report suggests possibly having hardcover exemptions for solar equipment.
7. The report suggests the use of “solar easements” that would preclude one homeowner
from preventing solar access on his neighbor’s property. This becomes a matter of
balancing conflicting interests. Just as the creation of ponding areas or wetland mitigation
conflicts with tree cover, solar access can affect the ability to plant or even preserve trees.
There needs to be further philosophical and legal discussion about this.
In the past the City has used a PUD process as a spring board for eventual amendments to zoning
regulations that become applicable to all properties in Shorewood.
With regard to land use, Nielsen had the following to say.
1. Concept Plan Revision – Nielsen reiterated that the owner (Venero) of an adjoining property had
approached the developer about buying the rear portion of his property along Seamans Drive and
incorporating the land into the MCC development. This necessitates a revision to the approved
Concept Plan that results in a net increase of two lots. The City Attorney has advised that “….this
parcel addition is not a material modification to the concept plan approved. The development
stage plan application is in substantial conformity to the plan approved.”
At this time not enough is known about how this proposal would leave the remainder of the
Venero property. Assuming the result is consistent with the R-1A zoning of that property, it is
recommended that the proposed conveyance be processed as a minor subdivision. Depending on
the availability of survey information, this could be scheduled as early as the January 5 Planning
Commission meeting.
2. Residential Mix – The entire MCC project is planned for single-family residential use on lots
ranging in size from 7200 square feet in area, to 43,776 square feet. Assuming the City agrees
with the Venero subdivision, the developer proposes to construct 39 age-targeted units, down one
from the Concept Plan, and 103 traditional homes, for a total of 142 homes. The remainder of the
site, aside from street right-of-way, consists of public and private open spaces. The preliminary
plat for the project includes several outlots. The uses of outlots would be as follows.
Outlot A – mostly wetland; owned and maintained by the homeowners association (HOA)
Outlots B and C – west entry monuments and wetland areas; owned and maintained by the
HOA
Outlot D – orphaned open space; owned and maintained by the HOA
Outlot E – east entry monument; owned and maintained by the HOA
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Outlot F – public open space, including trail; owned and maintained by the City, except for
one of the east entry monuments and ponds* which would be maintained by the HOA
Outlot G – preserved woodlot; owned and maintained by the City
Outlot H – public open space, storm water ponds, wetland mitigation area and trail; owned
and maintained by the City, except for the ponds* which would be maintained by the HOA
Outlot I – orphaned open space; owned and maintained by the HOA
*The City Engineer will prepare a plan for the short- and long-term maintenance of the storm
water pond areas.
3. Zoning Standards.
A. Building Setbacks – The Concept Plan recommended using R-1C zoning district standards as
the basis for the traditional home lots. The Preliminary Site & Utility Plans (sheets 8 and 9 of
the plan set) show 30-foot front yard setbacks instead of 35 feet for several areas. That would
be mitigated by the extraordinary ROW widths that are proposed to accommodate street trees
and sidewalks. A 30-foot setback with a 60-foot right-of-way versus a 35-foot setback on a
50-foot right-of-way has the same net effect with respect to visual, open space impact.
Something similar was done for the Waterford Subdivision PUD and that development
contains a map showing where the setbacks did not comply with R-1C zoning district
setbacks.
Similarly, the 20-foot front setback for the westerly age-targeted units on the east side of
street on a 60-foot right-of-way has the same visual effect as a 25-foot setback on a 50-foot
right-of way. There was considerable discussion in the concept plan review about the side-
yard setbacks proposed for the age-targeted units, particularly for the westerly units. The
developer has indicated that he will illustrate how the proximity of the homes can be
mitigated with landscaping and by virtue of the curving streets. Some thought should be
given to staggering setbacks on the westerly entry street to avoid a “row house” appearance.
The Site Plans show that Lot 17 only has a 30 foot setback; the other lots along the side of the
large cul-de-sac have 40 foot setbacks. It appears that may have been done to save trees on
the back of Lot 17, If that is the case, there needs to be a provision in the declaration of
covenants about the protection of those trees.
The varying setbacks should be addressed in the development agreement (which becomes the
zoning for the site), both by list and by illustration.
B. Impervious Surface Restriction – Ordinarily, the required “hardcover” maximum for non-
shoreland lots is 33 percent. Because the lots are being clustered resulting in an extraordinary
amount of public open space being set aside, it would be reasonable to allow some additional
hardcover per lot. A standard of 40 percent maximum hardcover has been suggested.
C. The development agreement should include provisions describing how the private open space
areas may be used. For example, will any type of structures be allowed in those areas? It
should also prescribe how the areas are to be maintained in a natural open space design,
consistent with the NAC’s recommendations. These should be incorporated into conservation
easements dedicated to the City.
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With regard to transportation, Nielsen stated that several issues had been raised relative to transportation
in the Concept Stage review. A great deal of concern was expressed about the impact of the development
on area streets. He explained how some of the issues have been or are being addressed.
1. The City Council established an ad hoc traffic committee which has begun work on a study of the
Country Club Road, Yellowstone Trail and Lake Linden Drive collector route between County
Road 19 and Highway 7. Traffic is already a problem along that route. The committee’s
recommendations will be provided in a separate report to the City Council.
2. In addition to some of the additional ROW widths within the project, the developer has provided
additional ROW to bring the portions of Smithtown Road and Country Club Road abutting the
site to a full 66-foot width. That provides room for the City to make changes to those roadways.
3. The preliminary plat includes a second, westerly access to Smithtown Road. Because that would
necessitates some alteration of the wetland located in the northwest corner of the site, the
developer and City will work with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) on a plan
for wetland mitigation.
4. The easterly entrance to the project has been shifted over about 50 feet to address the issue of
headlights aimed at properties on the north side of Smithtown Road. The entrance / exit now
aligns with a property line on the north side so that headlights pointing north would not be
pointed at the home. If that continues to be an issue the developer has offered to plant some
additional landscaping on that side of the roadway.
5. Specific design standards for the streets in the plat have been addressed in the City Engineer’s
report.
The issue of one cul-de-sac being longer than 700 feet still needs to be addressed.
6. The NAC report makes recommendations relative to the proposed trail and sidewalk system
included in the development. The City Engineer’s report addresses design and construction
standards for these facilities.
The proposed trail that would parallel Country Club Road ends at the intersection of Mary Lake
Trail. That is because of the location of a wetland just south of that and the lack of public ROW
south of that. One of the suggestions made in the concept plan review is that Country Club Road
could be made more curvilinear as a traffic calming measure. If that concept is implemented in
the future, consideration should be given to shifting the street slightly to the east to provide a
more level area for the trail to be extended down to Yellowstone Trail.
The plans do not indicate where potential trail crossings should be located on Country Club Road.
That is for the City to determine. Aside from the Mary Lake Trail location, a crossing at the Echo
Road intersection appears to be logical, assuming safe geometrics in that location. In the future,
the City may want to consider extending a small segment of sidewalk between Echo Road and
Badger Park.
With regard to community facilities, Nielsen stated public utilities have been addressed in the City
Engineer’s report. Sewer and water are both available to the site. The Engineer mentioned in his report
the potential need for an oversized watermain throughout the development. The City’s water plan
includes eventually installing an oversized watermain under Country Club Road. The watermain through
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the site would take the place of that. The City’s policy has been to pay for the oversizing of the
watermain. There is a Metropolitan Council Environmental Services (MCES) interceptor sewer in the
southeast quadrant of the site that has to be relocated.
One issue that is still somewhat unresolved is stormwater drainage. The MCWD was contacted early on
in the development review process and again more recently when staff got into more details of the
preliminary plat. The MCWD has provided a letter of interest which includes the sizing of the stormwater
ponds. There has been some confusion about whether the project should be calculated on the basis of a
new development or a redevelopment. The MCWD considers it redevelopment and that may necessitate
the ponds being enlarged somewhat. Hopefully, that will be resolved prior to the January 5 meeting. The
developer’s engineer and MCWD representatives continue to work on resolving the drainage plans for the
project.
Early on the developer determined that there is a stormwater outlet on the site that is an emergency
overflow. The MCWD had it as a land-locked basin. There is an old 24-inch diameter pipe that carries
water out of the south side of the property and extends down through some properties south of
Yellowstone Trail. It ends up in a pipe that goes under State Highway 7 and ultimately drains into Lake
Minnewashta. The developer has done some exploration work on that. Part of the pipe is badly
deteriorated. Early on the MCWD indicated that it would allow that pipe to be restored to its current size;
it cannot be enlarged. That has to be resolved with the MCWD as do some ownership issues south of
Yellowstone Trail.
He highlighted some items in the NAC consultant’s very detailed, technical report. She recommends
doubling up on the sidewalk in a couple of locations. The consultant stated that because of the age-
targeted units along the westerly access to the development she suggests there be sidewalks on both sides
of the street. Staff agrees with that. The City and MCWD require buffers around the wetlands. The
wetland monuments the City requires are somewhat flush mounted. They do not show up very well and
they often get buried. For this development, the City would like grass height monument signs indicating
they are wetland buffer areas. The consultant has some ideas for the design. The consultant recommends
planting a variety of trees and she asked for a tree schedule that would show percentages for the various
tree types to be planted. The deciduous tree replacement requires three-inch caliper trees. The consultant
recommends moving the monuments and plantings at the entrances in order to provide protected sight
triangles. She also mentioned the need for a vegetation management plan. Nielsen reiterated it may be
best to remove the buckthorn after the vegetation on the site has been established.
He explained that the project is proposed to be developed in three phases as illustrated in the Phasing
Plan. Park dedication fees, local sanitary sewer access charges and water connection charges are paid at
each stage of platting. Staff recommends that the trail and landscaping work on the open space areas be
started during the first phase. It is not unusual for turf to take 3 – 5 years to become established.
Nielsen reiterated that staff recommends that this Public Hearing on the Development Stage plans be
continued to the Planning Commission’s January 5, 2016, meeting. That should allow enough time to
address the various issues raised by staff and to obtain approvals from the MCWD.
Nielsen noted that Rick Packer, with Mattamy Homes, was present.
Rick Packer, with Mattamy Homes, noted it has taken a long time to get to this point in the process. He
stated he had little to add to Director Nielsen’s lengthy, detailed presentation. He then stated there are
some things that still have to be worked out in order to accomplish the City’s objectives. He noted he
intends to keep his remarks as brief as possible. He explained Venero Gardens intends to close the nursery
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after next year. Incorporating the approximate rear 100 feet of the nursery site into the MCC development
makes sense. It would add two more lots served by sewer and water to Mattamy’s subdivision. The lots
would be about the same size as some of the other lots in the subdivision. It would give the Veneros
added value. The City would lose a commercial business in a residential neighborhood.
He explained Mattamy is working with owners of adjacent properties to give some of them the Outlots. It
does not make any sense to make the Outlots part of the MCC HOA. It does make a lot of sense to have
then combined with those residential properties to enlarge the rear yards. It has been part of Mattamy’s
concept from day one to provide buffer strips and buffers around the perimeter of the project site. He
pointed out on a graphic which Outlots would be incorporated into which residential properties, which
would be owned and maintained by the HOA and which would be owned and maintained by the City as
public open space.
Mr. Packer noted that Mattamy had proposed nearly all of the sidewalks that have been suggested for the
development. He explained Mattamy thinks that street trees make a nice neighborhood; they separate a
City from a suburb. Where he lives a street tree was planted for each lot 20 years ago and now they make
that neighborhood look very nice. He stated the City has expressed concern about planting the trees in the
ROW because then the City would be responsible for them. Therefore, the HOA will assume
responsibility for them. The ROWs have been made a little bigger to give the trees a better chance of
surviving and to provide more space between the sidewalks and curbs. He thought Mattamy went with 35
foot setbacks.
Director Nielsen explained the R-1C zoning district standards were to be the basis for the traditional
house lots. The front yard setback standard is 35 feet and the rear yard setback is 40 feet. Many of the
traditional lots show 35 foot front yard setbacks. The lots along the large cul-de-sac are an exception to
that. Some lots have 40 foot setbacks, some have 35 foot setbacks and some have 30 foot setbacks. Mr.
Packer stated he would check into that and noted that originally the intent was to have 40 foot front yard
setbacks. When the ROW was increased he thought the setback was decreased to 35 feet. He commented
that they would all visually look the same.
Mr. Packer stated that some of the suggestions made to add additional sidewalks do not make sense to
Mattamy. Mattamy had proposed to have sidewalks on one side of all of the streets in the development.
Sidewalks on one side in a development are usually enough to keep people off of the streets. Normally
there are sidewalks on each side of the street when the ADT (average daily traffic) is 1,000 or more.
There won’t be more than 100 – 200 ADT on the streets in the development. Mattamy is also being asked
to put in sidewalks on both sides of Club Valley Road onto a street where there are no sidewalks. For the
age-targeted units for people 55 years of age or older they should be able to cross the street to get onto a
sidewalk. He thought that one internal trail could be extended up to Smithtown Road to give people more
direct access to the new trail. He noted that the City is going to construct a sidewalk on just one side of
Smithtown Road east in 2016 and that roadway has ADT of 5,000 – 6,000.
He then stated Mattamy has worked with two of the three property owners on the southwest corner about
bringing the storm sewer line through there. The two spoken to are amenable to doing something there. It
would not be an invasive process (the process is called bursting). Bursting essentially involves pushing a
pipe along the existing pipe alignment and open cutting a couple of spots for manholes so the City can
service the storm sewer line. He expressed confidence that Mattamy would be able to get the alignment
through that area with the help of the property owners. Mattamy would work with the MCWD to ensure
there is capacity down the line noting he assumed there would be.
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Mr. Packer stated that as Mattamy has gone through this process it is trying to bring forward some of the
history the former Minnetonka Country Club golf course and country club represented. It had been in the
City for 100 years. There was little from the buildings that could have been saved. It has photographs of
how the old entrance monument was done. Mattamy plans to use the same types of rocks used in that
monument for its entrance monuments. The streets in the development have been named after old style
golf clubs. The center of Prestwick Court is a large green area. Mattamy would like to transplant all of the
trees (the nursery stock) that were planted as a memorial or for a special event throughout the old golf
course in the middle of that cul-de-sac. Mattamy has been working with the Witraks about naming that
area after Bohdan Witrak. He noted that because of the soil remediation work Mattamy has been having
done on the site Shorewood is a little cleaner than it was a month ago.
Mr. Packer offered to entertain questions from the Planning Commissioners.
Commissioner Bean stated that if the Venero subdivision does not get approved for some reason he
assumes that would not change Mattamy’s approach. Mr. Packer responded it would not. Bean then stated
that Director Nielsen had suggested that Ayrshire Lane be made longer in order to shorten the length of
the cul-de-sac that is too long. He assumes that would necessitate Lots 1 and 2 along Ayrshire Lane being
pushed to the west a little into Outlot I. Mr. Packer stated Mattamy has been working with that property
owner to maintain all of those trees and possibly dedicate conservation easements to ensure the trees
remain there.
Mr. Packer stated he thought exceeding the length of the maximum 700 feet for a cul-de-sac by 50 feet
was worth it to maintain trees.
Commissioner Bean stated if there would be other owners of properties along Seamans Drive north of the
Veneros property that would want to subdivide their property and sell part of their lot to Mattamy he
asked if Mattamy would want to build additional houses along Bentgrass Way and thereby eliminate
Outlot I. Mr. Packer stated yes on paper and explained that the problem would be that the houses on those
lots north of the Veneros are located on the back of the properties. He noted that those lots are one acre in
size.
Mr. Packer explained that one of the concerns that had previously been expressed by the Council was age-
targeted units on the west. He explained that on the grading plan it looks like boxes on the lots and all of
them go out to the minimum setback. He showed the Commission an illustration of what he termed
“wiggled the street east and west” which results that every time a house is on the outside of the curve the
setback is greater and when the house is on the inside of the curve there is a smaller setback on the back
of the house. He stated the illustration was for real models and the houses reflect actual setbacks. Very
few of the age-target units have the actual 7.5 foot setback. Most setbacks are 10 feet and some are 15
feet. They would be an interesting streetscape. The traditional lots are 90 feet wide and the products range
from 50 – 70 feet wide. Some of those lots would have 20-foot side yard setbacks on each side because
the houses do not fill up the entire building pad.
In response to a comment from Vice-Chair Davis, Mr. Packer stated the illustration for the age-targeted
units is not accurate based on market feedback about the driveway usability.
Commissioner Johnson asked Mr. Packer if he has a rendering for the Capri Circle model and noted he
was curious about the circular driveway. Mr. Packer explained the Capri model is the one with the
driveway parallel to the street and another one at an angle. It looks like it is circular because there are two
garage doors with one driveway going one way and the second another way; that creates the illusion of
circular. Johnson asked if they were single garage doors. Mr. Packer responded yes.
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Commissioner Bean asked if Mr. Parker had any comments about the tree plan. Mr. Parker responded no
and explained that for a subdivision Mattamy plants a 2.5 – 3 inch caliper trees. Bean stated the NAC
consultant was quite specific about tree species. Mr. Parker stated her recommendations about planting a
variety of tree types and sizes make sense.
Bean stated that all of the Outlots Director Nielsen stated that would be owned by the HOA will go away.
Mr. Parker clarified many of them would and explained that the Outlots would be deeded to those
properties with restrictions on them (a little stricter than the City’s ordinances).
Vice-Chair Davis asked what would happen if property owners did not want the Outlots. Mr. Packer
stated he has not encountered property owners who do not want free land.
Commissioner Maddy asked Mr. Parker if Mattamy considered pedestrian / bike trails through Outlot A
because they could give access to Seamans Drive. Mr. Packer stated it is wetland on the west side of
Outlot A so there is no place for a trail to go.
Chair Geng stated it appears that the east access to Smithtown Road has been shifted to mitigate the issue
of headlights shining into homes across Smithtown Road. He thanked Mattamy for doing that. He
questioned if there is a need to do that for the access road on the west. Mr. Packer stated across from that
access point there is a pond and a side yard. The headlights would not shine into someone home.
Geng asked if the proposed trail that would be parallel to Country Club Road would be in the ROW or to
the west of the ROW. Mr. Packer explained that in some spots it would be to the west of the ROW and
the City would get something like an easement for that. In other spots it would be partially in the ROW.
Geng stated he wants to ensure that the City has the maximum amount of ROW to make modifications to
the roadway if need be.
Commissioner Johnson stated that for the trail in Outlot G it seems that there is a good connection
between Niblick Alcove and Brassie Circle to continue that trail through the wetland to where the trail
along County Club Road dead ends across from Mary Lake Trail. Mr. Packer stated Mattamy would
discuss that and noted that is where MCES’ sewer interceptor goes.
Council Liaison Woodruff noted there was a discrepancy in the letter designation for the Outlots between
some of the graphic sheets.
Vice-Chair Davis stated that the grading plan indicates that seven of the age-targeted lots have basement
elevations below the normal water level. Mr. Packer stated that is in accordance with the City’s
regulations and the MCWD’s regulations and noted that the normal water elevation in that wetland is not
indicative of where ground water is. He also noted that all of the borings Mattamy had done adjacent to
the wetlands came out dry.
Davis noted that she would never leave buckthorn in for any reason at all. Director Nielsen explained
moving that would open things up and noted it is the buckthorn that is providing the screening at this
time. Davis stated it would be better to get rid of the buckthorn up front. Nielsen stated the intent is to get
rid of the buckthorn after the landscaping has been established. Commissioner Maddy noted that any
buckthorn left alive allow birds to eat the berries and transport the seeds to somewhere else to grow. He
would support taking the buckthorn out right away. Mr. Packer stated Mattamy can consider that but
suggested that people go and look at how open and exposed the site would become if that is done early
on. Davis stated her husband has spent 10 years trying to eradicate buckthorn from their property and now
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they have a beautiful park like setting. The other trees that have since emerged have made up for what
was left open after the buckthorn was removed.
Chair Geng stated when people talk about establishing landscaping he asked if that is internal to the
property or along the perimeter. Director Nielsen explained the perimeter would be left relatively natural
aside from the buckthorn being removed. The landscape management plan is for the public open space
areas. Geng stated he also detests buckthorn but he does think it provides screening particularly during
construction. He encouraged residents to comment on whether the buckthorn should be removed early in
the project or in a couple of years.
Commissioner Johnson thanked Mr. Packer for providing the diagram for Ayrshire Lane. He asked if
there would be an opportunity to provide a little more breakup of houses. He offered up the idea of
providing two or three empty outlots to break the housing up. For the southeast corner of Bentgrass Way
Lot 1 – 5 he asked if there is an opportunity to introduce age-targeted units there consistent with what is
across the street in exchange for two to three open spaces on Ayrshire Lane. Mr. Packer stated that he was
going to respectfully resist the suggestion at this time and noted that Mattamy has demonstrated that it
would meet the minimum setbacks in almost all cases. He appreciates that some people wants more open
space but the people who are going to live there want to live in a compact neighborhood. Based on their
marketing people want backyards and they are not concerned about side yards. Johnson stated there are
areas in Shorewood that do not have the larger setbacks that have had issues with marketability.
Commissioner Maddy stated the plat shows very wide roadways in the development. He thought there is
an opportunity to construct narrower roads and provide better infiltration areas for trees to survive, more
room for the sidewalk on one side and possibly some traffic calming. Director Nielsen stated the paved
surface would be 24 feet wide plus curb and gutter and that almost one-half of the ROW would be
boulevard. Maddy noted he was pleased to hear that.
Vice-Chair Davis opened the Public Testimony Portion of the Public Hearing at 8:39 P.M.
Chris Gehrke, 24650 Smithtown Road, thanked the Planning Commission for providing him an
opportunity to speak and noted that he has lived in the City for three years. He stated he was present to
speak on behalf of himself and his family. He commended Mr. Packer for listening to some of his
concerns and shifting the easterly access point to Smithtown Road to the west so that vehicle headlights
do not shine into his home. He expressed concern that the monument lighting could still shine into his
home. He asked if the trees on the front of his property would be cut down thereby making the visibility
of the monument lights worse at his home. Director Nielsen clarified that the additional ROW would be
on the south side of Smithtown Road and that Mr. Gehrke’s trees would not be impacted. Mr. Gehrke
stated the City owns the lot to the east of his property and he would prefer the access point be located
across from the City-owned lot or the American Legion property. He then stated that he would not mind
the buckthorn being left alone during construction because it provides a visual barrier. He suggested
planting white cedar arborvitae around the perimeter because it provides the best screening all year round.
David Cooley, 24725 Smithtown Road, stated that most of his concerns have been addressed. He thought
the ad hoc traffic committee would deal with his other concerns. He then stated he has spoken with Mr.
Packer about drainage issues and noted there is a lot south of his lot that has some wet areas. The back of
Lot 5 on the north side of Bentgrass Way is going to be wet because there is a wet spot there. There used
to be drain tiles that carried water for lots north of Lot 5 to the south on to the former golf course
property. There are a number of lots that are very wet. Vice-Chair Davis stated the drainage plan indicates
there is a low point and a drainage structure back there.
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George Greenfield, 24715 Yellowstone Trail, stated his questions would be better directed to the City
Council but it is his understanding based on what Director Nielsen has told him that this would be the last
Public Hearing on this PUD. Therefore, he wants his questions to be on record. His first question was
regarding the age-targeted units. He explained that he had attended the open house at the Southshore
Center, two Public Hearings by held by the Planning Commission and two Public Hearings held by
Council. The age-targeted housing was originally proposed to sell for about $450,000. During the
September 28 Council Public Hearing that price was increased to $500,000 – $550,000. He was surprised
that no Councilmember, particularly Councilmember Siakel, commented on that increase in price being
age-targeted housing was purported to be of benefit to the community. He viewed that increase to be an
example of bad faith. Councilmember Siakel, and others, had wanted there to be a variety of housing
prices in the development. Unfortunately, the variety of housing prices will be prohibitively expensive;
that is not a variety.
Mr. Greenfield’s second question had to do with the traffic issue and he wanted it to be addressed to
Councilmember Labadie. During the September 28 meeting Labadie made the statement that children
from 36 school districts attend schools within the Minnetonka School District. She made the assertion that
one of the open enrolled students was from Bemidji. Bemidji is about a 4.5 hour one-way drive away. He
does not find it very likely that a student from Bemidji is attending a school in the District.
He stated a lot of people are excited about traffic issues. But, the City has never addressed the traffic
issues created by the School District through open enrollment. He explained the Minnetonka School
District claims to have about 1,000 open-enrolled students. If 250 of them pass through Shorewood on the
way to various schools in the District, it amounts to 1,000 vehicle trips per school day. That dwarfs the
traffic that would be generated from the proposed MCC development. The City does not get any
compensation from the School District for the wear and tear on the City’s infrastructure. The City does
not get any type of compensation for the pollution generated from those vehicles which are allowed to
queue up at the schools because “Billy and Barbie” cannot walk 50 feet to school. They can wait in the
queue for 20 minutes with engines running. The residents who live along Smithtown Road, Strawberry
Lane and in that entire neighborhood are subjected to traffic greatly in excess of what the proposed
development is going to create. Yet, the City never calls the School District on it. He suggested the City
confront the School District about the traffic issues it creates as long as the City is trying to address the
traffic issues the new development is going to exacerbate.
Mr. Greenfield thanked the Commission for its time.
Ed Hasek, 24315 Yellowstone Trail, commented that he has officially renamed Yellowstone Trail as the
“cut-thru”. He stated that because changes have been proposed to the concept plan for the MCC
development that Council approved he asked if that opens up the concept plan entirely or is it just limited
to a few issues. Director Nielsen reiterated that the City Attorney has advised that the proposed changes
do not materially affect the concept plan. Mr. Hasek asked what the length of the cul-de-sac is on the
northeast corner of the site. Nielsen stated that he does not know the exact length offhand but he thought
it was about 500 feet long. Mr. Hasek stated he had been in the business for 35 years and understands how
a cul-de-sac should be measured. He pointed on a graphic that was displayed how he thought it should be
measured and stated he calculated the northeast cul-de-sac to be 850 feet long on the original graphic.
Nielsen stated staff checked the length and found it to be less than 700 feet long. Mr. Hasek asked staff to
re-check the length. Nielsen noted that cul-de-sac had been moved slightly in order to preserve trees.
Chair Geng clarified for the record that Mr. Hasek was suggesting the length of the Featherie Bay cul-de-
sac be calculated from the intersection of Bentgrass Way and Wooden Cleek Drive to the end of the cul-
de-sac.
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Mr. Hasek stated that during a traffic committee meeting he had suggested extending some of the cul-de-
sacs on the east side of the site out to Country Club Road for public safety, health and welfare reasons. If
one of the cul-de-sacs on the northeast corner of the site were extended to be across from Echo Road it
would eliminate what he perceives as an access problem on the north side of the site and it would shorten
the length of the Featherie Bay cul-de-sac. It would also provide a place for a crosswalk from the
proposed sidewalk along Country Club Road.
Mr. Hasek expressed concern about all of the traffic that will exit the development site at the exit on to
Yellowstone Trail on the south because that would be the easiest way to get to, for example, the
Shorewood Village Shopping Center. He stated the City’s Comprehensive (Comp) Plan talks about
connected neighborhoods. Therefore, he thought consideration should be given to having an exit on to
Country Club Road to lessen the traffic burden on Yellowstone Trail. He noted his suggestion may be a
moot point because the revised concept is only about the addition of two lots to the development and an
increase of two housing units. He commented that the traffic committee was instructed not to discuss his
suggestion and that is why he brought it up now.
Mr. Hasek questioned the need for a 66-foot-wide ROW anywhere in the City except where there is an
arterial roadway. He stated the Metropolitan (Met) Council’s transportation plan for 2040 suggests that
for a collector ROW a minimum of 60 feet is needed and 100 feet is the maximum. The 66-foot-wide
ROW is two rods (33 feet total) either side of the center line which is an extremely old way of doing
business. Rods are not talked about any more. People talk about feet. He thought that most of what the
City wants to do can be accomplished with a 60-foot-wide ROW. Maybe the extra 3 feet along
Yellowstone Trail, Smithtown Road and along other streets in the City could be given back to property
owners because it is not being used.
Mr. Hasek stated from his perspective people must keep in mind Yellowstone Trail and Lake Linden
Drive when considering traffic calming options for Country Club Road. He explained that during a recent
traffic committee meeting there was discussion about having a roadway (Country Club Road) with two
12-foot driving lanes with a six-foot-wide bicycle lane in either direction. If that were done the speed
limit could legally be reduced to 20 miles per hour (mph). There is a lot that would have to be done to the
current 23-foot-wide driving surface plus 6 feet of tar before the grass to implement that idea. Many of
the trees would have to be removed for example.
Mr. Hasek asked for a copy of the current plans. Director Nielsen stated he would ensure that happened
and encouraged Mr. Hasek to come to City Hall to look at the full sized plans.
Mr. Hasek stated for the existing ROW down by Yellowstone Trail he thought that there is probably one
rod on one side of the section or quarter-section line. He asked if the Outlot on the west side of that corner
lot is going to be given to the owner of that property. If so, maybe that property owner would give the
City some of his land to accommodate extending the proposed trail along Country Club Road all of the
way down to Yellowstone Trail. He then stated as a landscape architect he agrees there should be a
bicycle / pedestrian trail along Yellowstone Trail so people do not have to be walking or biking on the
roadway. He thought the residents living along Yellowstone Trail would want a trail but they do not want
a wider roadway.
Mr. Hasek thanked the Planning Commission for its time.
Joe Stano, 25235 Smithtown Road, stated that he owns the property adjacent to Outlots A and B. He
noted that he is particularly interested in learning what the ownership plan is for Outlot A. He asked what
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type of barrier would be maintained on the four new lots that abut his property. Mr. Packer stated the new
lots would go all the way back to those properties but the clearing would not. Mr. Stano noted there was
grass and woods on one particular area. Vice-Chair Davis asked if that is where the compromised soils
are. Mr. Stano stated he is not sure how much of the wooded area is buckthorn. Vice-Chair Davis stated
her recommendation was not to remove the buckthorn where Mr. Stano was talking about; it was to
remove it along Country Club Road. Davis noted that if the trees still have green leaves on them they are
buckthorn.
Henry Miles, 24035 Mary Lake Trail, routed a copy of his prepared comments to the members of the
Planning Commission and staff.
“My name is Henry Miles. My wife and I have lived in Shorewood for 17 years and finished
raising our two kids here. Shorewood and the Minnetonka Public Schools have been very good to
my family and I urge everyone to continue supporting both.
I have just seven short comments to make tonight in connection with this first hearing on
Mattamy’s development plans. First, I have no issues whatsoever with Mattamy’s revisions to the
Concept Plan. They are minor, immaterial, and just fine; let’s move on.
Secondly, solar is not justified on a project of this scale given our climate, the abundance of
inexpensive natural gas, the up-front and on-going costs of solar, the unsightliness of solar
collectors, and new research going on with respect to solar energy notably in the area of clear
glass solar. To want solar collectors in the Mojave Desert is one thing, but not here, not now.
Thirdly, as to that 600-foot missing section of sidewalk west of Country Club, south of Mary Lake
Trail. The City should retain the right to build that out itself – on Mattamy’s property – when and
if the wetland and other issues can be resolved. Shorewood should require an easement from
Mattamy on that land. The fact that Mattamy does not propose it now should not mean that
Shorewood is foreclosed from pursuing it later. In addition, Mattamy’s sidewalks/trails should
not be on the City’s right-of-way.
Fourth, there should be no new trees added now to the perimeter right-of-ways in case
Shorewood finds a use for that property.
Fifth, I’ve grown tired of all the instant-shade stuff we see in every development. I like sugar
maples and hackberry and I’m delighted to see them in Mattamy’s plan. As to hackberry, two
weeks ago I took down possibly the largest hackberry in Shorewood estimated at 100 years old
and about as many feet high. It pained me to see the stress fractures running up that tree from
last summer’s storms. I would love to see more hackberry trees. I would also like to see Mattamy
plant more long-living trees like red oak, white pine, hemlock, wild cherry, and a small grove of
hornbeam in honor of Paul Hornby.
Now as to buckthorn. Believe it or not, it has its place in this world. If you have lived and biked in
England as I have, you’d know that buckthorn is a primary plant of hedgerows. But here in
Minnesota, no one except rabbits likes it because it’s invasive. That said, it has already invaded
the perimeter of the project so I am in favor of leaving it for a year or two because of the visual
and sound screening benefit it will provide during development.
And finally, I’d like to see Mattamy think A LOT more creatively about seeds and plants,
specifically those that attract butterflies and honeybees – milkweed, butterfly weed, bee balm,
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purple prairie clover, cup plant, aster, allium, serviceberry, wild phlox, coneflower, and so forth.
These plants are environmentally friendly and beautiful; everyone likes them and the beneficial
insects they attract. What if Mattamy incorporated into our community’s biggest development our
biggest butterfly and honeybee meadow. You want people to have good feelings about Mattamy
and Shorewood.
That’s all I have to say tonight other than to thank the Planning Commission for their service to
our community. I do ask that these comments be added verbatim into the record.
Henry Miles
24035 Mary Lake Trail
Shorewood, MN 55331
(612) 790-1552”
Vice-Chair Davis closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 9:17 P.M.
Chair Geng suggested Director Nielsen address what the remainder of the Public Hearing process is
about. Director Nielsen explained that this is the last of the Public Hearings where public comment is
taken unless the City Council chooses to have an additional public hearing; that is Council’s prerogative.
Director Nielsen explained if there is something the Commission wants addressed that has not been
addressed now is the time to bring that forward.
Commissioner Johnson stated a homeowners association (HOA) has been mentioned a number of times.
He asked if that will come before the Commission at some point. Director Nielsen stated that typically
does not. It goes with the final plat to Council. Nielsen noted there have been times when the Commission
has asked to see the declaration of covenants and primarily the development agreement.
Vice-Chair Davis asked if the maintenance of the trees in the ROW in the development includes all the
things the City or a resident would typically do (e.g.; trimming, removal, cleanup after a storm). Director
Nielsen explained there was debate about whether or not the property owners should be responsible for
the trees in front of their property. The decision was made that it would be better for the HOA to be
responsible for that.
Commissioner Johnson stated he would like to review how the declaration is going to cover the street tree
maintenance and drainage issues.
Vice-Chair Davis stated she thought the maintenance of the naturalized areas should be specified. She
then stated she thought Mr. Miles’ suggestion to plant things that attract bees and butterflies was
outstanding. She knows landscape companies that specialize in that and their gardens are alive.
Chair Geng concurred with the suggestion to plant bee and butterfly friendly plants. He noted that
Shorewood embarked on that a couple of years ago when it became a bee safe city.
In response to someone from the audience, Director Nielsen clarified what the Commission was going to
consider recommending approval or denial of the revised concept plan and the Development Stage plans.
Commissioner Johnson stated the NAC’s Development Stage plans review report includes comments on
tree preservation. It states 988 significant trees would be removed from the site. He would like to be told
what percentage of the total trees that is.
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Vice-Chair Davis stated she thought a summary of the NAC report would be helpful for everyone. She
thought it was a good report if people took the time to read it. She then stated 900 trees is a lot and noted
that what Mattamy is going to have planted is phenomenal.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated he understood Mr. Packer to say that when Outlots are incorporated into
to other properties the owners of those properties would be responsible for maintaining that land the same
way yards within the development would be maintained. He would like to see the language that would
compel the property owners to maintain the Outlots. The Outlots would end up being at the back of a
property that fronts a different street. He expressed concern about the possibility of the Outlots being
overrun with weeds three feet high next to someone’s nice lawn. He asked staff to ask the City Attorney
about the longevity of covenants on that type of title transfer. He stated he thought covenants last 20
years.
Woodruff then stated a resident mentioned the drainage issue on Lot 5 [on Bentgrass Way]. On one of the
plans it shows removal of existing storm sewer that starts on Lot 5 and goes down through Lot 3. He
questioned the reason for taking out a storm sewer from a wet area. He does not know what is replacing it.
He wants someone to answer that for him.
Mr. Packer explained that sewer is just east of the former maintenance building. The golf course
maintenance personnel took the lawnmowers there to wash them off. The clippings and so forth from the
mowers fell into a pit and the excess water from that went into the pipe and flowed across the site and
then was discharged into a wetland.
Vice-Chair Davis stated the grading plan shows that drainage would occur appropriately.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated there was a comment about the lack of ROW on Country Club Road
south of Mary Lake Trail. He asked if there would be access to land after this project to extend the trail
down to Yellowstone Trail.
Director Nielsen stated the ROW adjoining the property on the northwest corner of Country Club Road
and Yellowstone Trail is inadequate; it is only 33 feet wide. Council Liaison Woodruff stated he liked the
suggestion of negotiating with that property owner to acquire some land for a trail.
In response to a comment from Council Liaison Woodruff, Director Nielsen stated the City would get
ownership of Outlot F.
Commissioner Maddy noted that hackberry trees were cited in the NAC’s report.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated he thought the NAC’s report was excellent and he encouraged people
who are interested about the proposed landscaping for the MCC development to read that report. From his
perspective he did not think the report covered pollinator friendly plants adequately.
Mr. Packer noted he would never have thought that when Henry Miles gave his last presentation that he
would have agreed with all seven of his points.
Commissioner Bean stated Mr. Packer indicated there would be turf and trees in Prestwick Court. He
asked if the Court would allow enough room for snowplow trucks to move through that end of the cul-de-
sac. Director Nielsen stated it would.
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Commissioner Maddy asked if it would be possible to decouple the solar conversation from the rest of the
development plans. Director Nielsen clarified that his recommendation was to have a separate
conversation about the possible solar garden. He noted that he is a little skeptical about having solar
devices go higher than the peak of the roof. Maddy noted the investment tax credit for solar sunsets at the
end of 2016.
Bean moved, Maddy seconded, continuing the Public Hearing for a revised Concept Stage plan and
Development Stage plans approvals for Mattamy Homes’ planned unit development of the former
Minnetonka Country Club property located at 24575 Smithtown Road to the Planning
Commission’s January 5, 2016. Motion passed 5/0.
Vice-Chair Davis closed the Public Testimony Portion of the Public Hearing at 9:36 P.M.
Discussion moved to Item 4 on the agenda.
2. MINOR SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION (LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT)
Applicant: Sass Investments I, LLC
Location: 6035 Galpin Lake Road, 22690 and 22740 Murray Street
This was discussed before Item 1 on the agenda.
Director Nielsen explained that Mark Sass owns two lots located at 22690 and 22740 Murray Street. In
2006 he arranged to purchase a strip of land about 20 feet in depth behind two lots from the then owner of
the 6035 Galpin Lake Road property to the north. The strip of land would bring Mr. Sass’ two lots into
better compliance with the R-1C zoning district standards. The 2006 application included vacating
existing drainage and utility easements in exchange for new easements along the new property line. The
division/combination and easement vacation were approved by the City but they were never recorded
with Hennepin County. Mr. Sass’ title company has now reapplied for the same division/combination and
easement vacation.
Nielsen noted that with the exception of some different owners the analysis and recommendation from
2006 remain unchanged. Therefore, staff again recommends approval of the division and combination and
vacation of the existing easements, subject to the applicant providing deeds for the new easements (which
he thought the City already has) and a title opinion for review by the City Attorney and the
division/combination being recorded within 30 days following Council approval of the request. He then
noted that if the Planning Commission makes a recommendation about the division/combination this
evening Council will hold a public hearing for this request during its December 14, 2015, meeting.
Joan Young, with Premier Title Insurance Agency¸ explained that her Title company was the one that
received the documentation in 2006. The company found out the documents were never recorded with
Hennepin County. The company intends to correct that situation. Director Nielsen advised the company
that because the approval was given so long ago the request had to be made again.
Bean moved, Maddy seconded, recommending approval of the subdivision/combination of the
properties located at 6035 Galpin Lake Road, 22690 Murray Street and 22740 Murray Street as
well as the drainage and utility easement vacations in exchange for new easements subject to the to
the applicant providing deeds for the new easements and a title opinion for review by the City
Attorney and the division/combination being recorded within 30 days following Council approval of
the request. Motion passed 5/0.
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3. MINOR SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION (LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT)
Applicant: Al and Jennifer Larson
Location: 21125 and 21195 Radisson
Director Nielsen explained that Al and Jennifer Larson own the property located at 21195 Radisson Road.
They have arranged to purchase the property owned by Ken and Helen Hendrickson at 21125 Radisson
Road. The subject properties are located in the R-1A/S, Single-Family Residential/Shoreland zoning
district. As part of the transaction, the Larsons propose to rearrange the lot line between the two lots. The
westerly lot line of the Hendrickson property cuts across the lake side of the Larson lot. The Larsons
propose to straighten out that line along an existing easement that was created years ago. In exchange,
they also propose to adjust the lot line as it approaches Radisson Road so it would be more perpendicular
with the street. The configurations would be better than what exists today. Their intent is to trade parcels
of approximately equal value.
The Shorewood Subdivision Code requires the applicants to provide 10-foot wide drainage and utility
easements. In this this case the new easements would be along the existing and new side lot lines and
along Radisson Road. There is already a sewer easement that runs along Christmas Lake.
Nielsen noted that staff recommends approval of the subdivision/combination as modified subject to the
applicant’s attorney preparing deeds for the new easements and an up-to-date title opinion for the
property.
Mr. Larson noted he and his wife do have a purchase agreement on the 21125 Radisson Road property.
He displayed a rendition of the lot line proposal and highlighted what would change. He noted that what
he proposed was different than what was included in the staff report.
In response to a question from Commissioner Bean, Director Nielsen explained the Larson property
would end up with 40,245 square feet of area and the Hendrickson property would end up with 46,545
square feet of area. Both would comply with the R-1A/S zoning district requirements.
Geng moved, Maddy seconded, recommending approval of the subdivision/combination of the
properties located at 21125 and 21195 for Al and Jennifer Larson according to the sketch submitted
this evening for the new lot line and subject to the applicant’s attorney preparing deeds for the new
easements and an up-to-date title opinion. Motion passed 5/0.
Discussion returned to Item 1 on the agenda.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
This item was discussed after Item 1 on the agenda.
Mayor Zerby stated it is his understanding that the role of the Council liaison is to represent the Council
and to serve as the liaison between Council and the Planning Commission. He thought it is inappropriate
to for the liaison to make their own recommendations and make their own comments without speaking
with Council. He noted that he intends to make his comments about the plans during a Council meeting.
He stated that is how the position of liaison works from parliamentary procedure.
5. OLD BUSINESS / NEW BUSINESS
6. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
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Director Nielsen stated there is the continuation of the Public Hearing for the Mattamy planned unit
development, a minor subdivision, and some discussion about solar slated for the January 5, 2016,
Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Johnson asked if the solar discussion would be specific to a project or about Shorewood in
general. Director Nielsen explained it would lead to a general discussion but initial discussions would be
about the Mattamy PUD.
7. REPORTS
• Liaison to Council
Council Liaison Woodruff reported on the items considered and actions taken during Council’s
November 23, 2015, work session and meeting (as detailed in the minutes of those meetings).
• SLUC
• Other
8. ADJOURNMENT
Bean moved, Johnson seconded, adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of December 1,
2015, at 9:40 P.M. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Christine Freeman, Recorder