PC-03-07-17
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, MARCH 7, 2017 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Maddy called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Maddy, Commissioners Davis, Bean, Riedel, and Sylvester; Planning Director
Nielsen
Absent: None
Newly-appointed Commissioner Sylvester introduced herself and gave a background on herself.
Chair Maddy discussed the public hearing process for the benefit of those in the audience this evening.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Davis moved, Riedel seconded approving the agenda of March 7, 2017 as written. Motion passed 5/0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of February 7, 2017
Davis moved, Riedel seconded approving the minutes of February 7, 2017 meeting as written. Motion passed
3/0/2. Bean and Sylvester abstained from voting.
1. PUBLIC HEARING FOR CUP FOR COFFEE SHOP WITH DRIVE-THRU SERVICE
AND OUTDOOR SEATING
Applicant: Dave Watson
Location: 19245 and 19285 State Highway 7
Chair Maddy opened the Public Hearing at 7:04 p.m.
Nielsen noted the location of the proposed site slated for redevelopment which will replace two existing
office buildings. The properties are currently zoned C-1, General Commercial. The CUP is required
because of the drive-thru window. He reviewed an aerial photograph showing the existing conditions. He
discussed surrounding uses. He reviewed the proposed building and stated three existing driveways will be
consolidated into one. The building is single story with a 3’ parapet at the drive-thru window. He reviewed
the floor plan and building elevations.
Nielsen stated the plans are preliminary at this point. He discussed problems associated with the request.
He discussed the conditions for approval of a drive-thru. The building is an improvement over what
currently exists on the site. There is sufficient stacking room for vehicles. Site circulation is also
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improved. The small frontage road is across the street from single family homes. The plans do not address
site lighting. The drawings are small scale but show perimeter curbing. There isn’t any information
provided relative to drainage. A landscape plan has not been provided. The site plan shows a sign, but a
signage plan has not been provided. The setbacks comply with C-1 zoning requirements. The building
height has been met. A parking analysis has not been completed. The building is consistent with design
standards required in a C-1 district.
Nielsen stated the City Engineer is well aware the intersection has a low rating. He suggests a traffic study
be provided by the applicant showing the use will not make traffic worse in the area. It should include trip
generation and timing. Staff is recommending this item be continued to the April 4 meeting pending
submittal of all missing information.
Davis stated they do not need a CUP for a coffee shop but for a drive-thru.
The applicant stated all missing information will be provided as well as the requested traffic study.
Chair Maddy opened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:16 p.m.
Kris Thayer, 5345 Shady Hills Circle, Shorewood stated she has canvassed the neighborhood and has
collected 88 signatures from households in the area opposing the request. She discussed traffic circulation
in other coffee shops in the area. Her major concern was the traffic and showed photographs of traffic
situations in the area of the proposed use. She urged the Planning Commission to consider this request
seriously.
Harry Millen, 5117 Vine Hill Road, Minnetonka stated he stands to be the most affected resident by this
use. He was concerned about the increased traffic drawn to this use. He discussed traffic congestion in the
morning and evening rush hours. He was also concerned about vehicle collisions, nuisances, drive-thru
wait times, and snow removal from the Starbucks lot onto his property.
Matt Larson, 5125 Vine Hill Road, Minnetonka discussed surrounding uses and headlight intrusion from
current uses.
Niko Sari, address not given stated he was concerned about the traffic.
Rose DeSanto, 5111 Valley View Road, Minnetonka discussed her concerns about the traffic in the area.
She stated problems associated with the new development will just become worse. She discouraged the
Planning Commission from considering this.
Mary Macanek, 5108 Valley View Road, Minnetonka stated traffic from the high school is very heavy, the
road is curved, and it is difficult to see around the corner. She believes MnDOT should have a say on what
could be done with Highway 7. She was concerned about the increased traffic that will be short in nature.
David Sime, 5363 Ashcroft Road, Minnetonka was concerned about access to roads already. He discussed
the length of the traffic cycle on Vine Hill Road at Highway 7. He stated the traffic impact resulting from
a Starbucks would take two hours to clear the new traffic. He was also concerned about safety and
environmental impacts.
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John Massart, 5220 Vine Hill Road, Shorewoodstated he will be impacted by the proposed use. He
preferred the use be kept away from residential uses. He stated he avoids the intersection during rush
hours.
Cindy Heimer, 5121 Shady Lane, Shorewood was concerned about traffic and accidents.
Chair Maddy closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:44 p.m.
Davis stated there are many drive-throughs in many locations in the area.
Bean asked the Starbucks’ representative for information on customer numbers. Julie Waite, Starbucks,
stated it was normal to have 500 in a day at an average store in the Twin Cities. On average 62% of the
business is through the drive-thru.
Davis asked if she was aware there was a traffic problem in this area. Waite stated she was not aware, but
it will be addressed
Riedel stated the circumstances of the intersection are already bad. The traffic study should consider the
increase of traffic to the intersection.
Maddy asked if the City would commission the traffic study. Nielsen stated the applicant would
commission the study, which staff would review.
Maddy suggested the traffic study look at the congestion already in the area.
Bean believed a cut-through problem would be created.
Riedel stated this appears to be a long-term problem and asked the residents for their long-term solutions.
Bean stated the solution would be to completely realign the Vine Hill Road intersection.
Riedel stated the increase in students at the high school will only create additional traffic problems.
In response to a question from Bean, Nielsen explained what the traffic study should include. A
comparison of a coffee shop with/without a drive-thru should be discussed in the study.
Riedel stated there are other issues besides the traffic. Nielsen stated we still need to see plans for lighting,
grading, landscaping and signage.
Bean asked how much time the applicant will need for the traffic study. Nielsen stated he did not know
how long it would take. He stated the item could be continued again if needed.
Davis suggested a dedicated right-turn be constructed at Delton Avenue.
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Riedel moved, Davis seconded to continue the request to the April 4 Planning Commission meeting to
allow time for the applicant to provide lighting, grading, landscape and signage plans and a traffic
study. Motion carried 5/0.
2. PUBLIC HEARING FOR CUP FOR AN ACCESSORY APARTMENT
Applicant: Matt Sobraske
Location: 25855 Smithtown Road
Chair Maddy opened the Public Hearing at 8:06 p.m.
Nielsen stated the request is for a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow an accessory apartment in a
residential area. They are currently allowed by CUP. He discussed the proposed addition as shown on a
survey and reviewed building elevations. He reviewed the intent of the ordinance to diversify housing
availability.
Nielsen discussed the conditions for approval. The apartment amounts for 16% of the total home where
40% would be allowed. The size of the house is not being reduced to add the apartment. It complies with
the apartment size requirement, and there is access to the apartment. The applicant is related by blood or
marriage. There will be a residential use agreement which would get recorded with the County. There is
sufficient off-street parking for the use, and a small carport which meets setback requirements. Only one
accessory apartment is proposed or allowed on the property. Staff is recommending approval of the
request subject to the applicant entering into a residential use agreement.
Maddy asked if anyone else has added an accessory apartment. Nielsen indicated they had not.
Chair Maddy opened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:13 p.m.
Patricia Olsen, 25775 Smithtown Road discussed her concerns about drainage between the houses. She
stated it continues to be a problem. There is an area in her yard that is wet year-round. Nielsen stated
Engineering will be notified.
Chair Maddy closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:15 p.m.
Davis stated this looks like a good use of the ordinance.
Riedel asked what the topography is in the area. Olsen stated it is always wet and is a continuing problem.
Bean moved, Riedel seconded to recommend approval of a CUP for an accessory apartment for Matt
Sobraske at 25855 Smithtown Road subject to the Engineer’s review of the grading and fill as
needed. Motion carried 5/0.
3. PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CUP FOR ACCESSORY SPACE OVER 1200 SQUARE FEET
Applicant: Brad Hauser
Location: 5640 Covington Road
Chair Maddy opened the Public Hearing at 8:20 p.m.
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Nielsen stated a CUP was approved for accessory structure space when Mr. Hauser built his house. Two
sheds were removed at the time. He intended to remove one of the sheds, and he is applying for a new
CUP. He reviewed a survey of the property noting the location of the proposed shed. The applicant would
like to request a 12 x 20 shed which will result in 16% impervious coverage which is well below the 25%
requirement. He reviewed the criteria for approval. The total area of accessory structures cannot exceed
the area of the principal structure or floor area ratio. The architectural character of the shed will be in
character with the existing home. The plans are consistent with requirements for an accessory structure,
and staff is recommending approval.
Brad Hauser, 5640 Covington Road discussed the request and the need for the additional space. He stated
no trees will be removed, and the site is as low profile as possible.
Chair Maddy opened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:27 p.m.
There were no public comments.
Chair Maddy closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:27 p.m.
Davis moved, Riedel seconded to recommend approval of a CUP for an accessory space over 1200
square feet for Brad Hauser at 5640 Covington Road as amended to increase the allowable area for a
12 x 20 shed. Motion carried 5/0.
4. SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION (LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT)
Applicant: Steven Berchild
Location: 20435 and 20465 Radisson Road
Nielsen reviewed the request for a lot line rearrangement as shown on the site location map. The Berchilds
need some additional space to add on to their home, and a lot line rearrangement is being proposed. If the
division is approved, the Berchild property would consist of 1.79 acres. The request will involve the
vacation of drainage and utility easements and creation of new easements. This would require a public
hearing at the City Council meeting. Staff recommended approval of the request.
In response to a question from Riedel, Steve Berchild, 20435 Radisson Road stated the grassy area is used
more by them than the Callies who own the property. He noted the proposed area is for a future addition to
their house.
Paula Callies, 20465 Radisson Road discussed easements on the property and maintenance of the grassy
area. She supported the request.
Bean moved, Riedel seconded to recommend approval of a subdivision/combination (lot line
rearrangement) for Steven Berchild at 20435 and 20465 Radisson Road. Motion carried 5/0.
5. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None
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6. OLD BUSINESS/NEW BUSINESS
None
7. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
Nielsen discussed the agenda for the April 4 meeting.
REPORTS
8.
A. City Council
Nielsen reported on recent City Council actions and the development plan for the Mattamy development.
B. SLUC
They will be discussing transportation.
C. Other
No report.
9. ADJOURN
Riedel moved, Davis seconded, to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting of March 7, 2017 at 8:50
P.M. Motion carried .
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder