05-21-19 Planning Commission MinutesCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, MAY 21, 2019
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Maddy called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
ROLL CALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 P.M.
Present: Chair Maddy; Commissioners Eggenberger, Gorham and Gault (arrived at 7:03
P.M.); Planning Director Darling; and, Council Liaison Labadie
Absent: Commissioner Riedel
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Gorham moved, Eggenberger seconded, approving the agenda for May 21, 2019, as
presented. Motion passed 3/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 7, 2019
Eggenberger moved, Gorham seconded, approving the Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of May 7, 2019, as presented. Motion passed 3/0.
Commissioner Gault arrived at the meeting.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chair Maddy explained the Planning Commission is comprised of residents of the City of
Shorewood who are serving as volunteers on the Commission. The Commissioners are
appointed by the City Council. The Commission's role is to help the City Council in determining
zoning and planning issues. One of the Commission's responsibilities is to hold public hearings
and to help develop the factual record for an application and to make a non - binding
recommendation to the City Council. The recommendation is advisory only.
A. Club Lane Villas — Comprehensive Plan Amendment/Rezoning to
P.U.D. /Concept and Development Stage P.U.D. /Preliminary Plat
Applicant: Lake West Development, LLC
Location: 24845 Smithtown Road and 5810 Club Lane
Chair Maddy opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 P.M. noting the procedures used in a Public
Hearing.
Planning Director Darling explained that Lake West Development, LLC has requested a
Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Rezoning, P.U.D. and Preliminary Plan for Club Lane Villas.
Club Lane Villas would subdivide the two parcels into nine lots for single family villa style
homes. She gave a brief overview of the subject properties and the project. She stated that the
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existing homes and buildings would be removed. She gave an overview of the plans to
reconstruct Club Lane further west from its present location and widen it to 24 feet. She stated
that the applicant is proposing to extend water through to the south end of Club Lane and
construct services to existing homes so the roadway would not be disturbed in the future if they
decided to hook up. She stated that the applicant is requesting PUD flexibility to provide
additional lots and lesser front and side setbacks as well as reduced side -yard easements,
including a narrower cul -de -sac dimension. She stated that there are still some design issues
that the applicant needs to work out. She recommended that the public hearing be opened and
public testimony be taken this evening and then continue the item to give the applicant time to
address the issues. She noted that the City had received one e-mail from Aaron Hatz at 5765
Club Lane expressing concerns about the density of the proposal and indicated the letter was
attached to the staff report and part of the public record.
Commissioner Gorham noted that the staff report mentioned that there were other possibilities
for stormwater expansion and asked if those would also require easements.
Planning Director Darling stated that the other proposals would also require easements but
there are many options are to encourage infiltration, such as a rain garden or filtration basins.
Commissioner Gault stated that the application states that the lot widths for the villa homes
were based on the Minnetonka Country Club development single level homes and asked what
the approved lot width was for that development.
Planning Director Darling stated that most of the lots were around 53 to 54 feet wide and that
they are all one -level
Commissioner Gault confirmed that width was contingent on them being single level homes.
Planning Director Darling reviewed the right -of -way, the cul -de -sac, and the access for the
existing residence that currently has access off of Club Lane and would be changed to the cul-
de -sac.
Chair Maddy noted that this was not shown on the concept plan.
Commissioner Eggenberger asked where the water from the stormwater treatment pond would
flow.
Planning Director Darling stated that it would follow the natural drainage for the area. She noted
that their proposal includes a catch basin at the cul -de -sac on the south end and all the water
would be routed to the pond on site with a pipe connecting the applicant's pond to a pond in the
Minnetonka Country Club.
Commissioner Gault stated that he assumed the holding ponds within Minnetonka Country Club
were designed to hold their own water and not that of nearby properties.
Planning Director Darling explained that this developer is required to provide rate and volume
control so the water isn't leaving the site faster.
Commissioner Gault stated that it would still flow into the Minnetonka Country Club
development.
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Planning Director Darling noted that it would but the developer is required to submit the final
details indicating that this pond would not overwhelm the MCC pond.
Commissioner Gault stated that the concept design appears to be a full basement with a
walkout.
Planning Director Darling stated that there are no walkouts on the backside
Commissioner Gault stated that it appears as though there is a patio on the drawings and asked
if there was no access to the patio area from the building.
Planning Director Darling stated that it shows a patio on the lower level with sliding glass doors,
but she thinks that this was perhaps left over from other drawings from the developer. She
stated that this can be clarified with the developer.
Chair Maddy confirmed that the existing drainage on the site is already heading towards the
Minnetonka Country Club property.
Commissioner Gault stated that the proposed hard surface coverage is significant which he
feels will create a major impact on the flow.
Commissioner Eggenberger asked how much room there is between Lot 9 and the existing
residence.
Planning Director Darling stated that the drawings show a 5 -foot easement and a 7.5 -foot
setback for all the lots.
Chair Maddy stated that the City relaxed the zoning on this parcel about a year ago to match the
surrounding properties, but there were additional burdens added such as a requirement for a
cul -de -sac. He stated that it appears as though the developer is making the argument that they
cannot afford the project cost of putting in a cul -de -sac without the greater number of lots.
Planning Director Darling stated that the road widening and improving to City standards, the
turnaround, and the water extension are all expensive improvements.
Perry Ryan, Lake West Development, 14525 Highway 7, Minnetonka, gave an overview of the
proposed project. He stated that the villa homes are narrower and they are proposing lot widths
of 56 feet wide, with a few wider to accommodate easements. He stated that they had used the
fire department's apparatus that measures the turnaround area in order to come up with their
proposed measurement. He noted that the costs for the infrastructure for the sanitary sewer
and water will be borne by the developer and not the City or the nearby residents. He stated
that there will be a homeowner's association formed as part of the development with common
area maintenance. He stated that there was an error and there is not meant to be any two -story
homes in the development, but they would like the flexibility to have one and a half -story homes
in order to put in some lofts on some of the properties. He noted that they are proposing the
same distance between the units as well as the massing that is currently present in Minnetonka
Country Club development. He stated that he believes all of the issues brought up by staff are
resolvable. He reviewed some of the setback requirements and the cul -de -sac turning radius.
He stated that infiltration may be difficult in this area because the soils are pretty thick. He
stated that he thinks their overall plans bring a lot of positive things to the neighborhood, even to
the existing residents.
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Commissioner Gault asked if Lake West Development was proposing to build all the units
themselves.
Mr. Ryan stated that they would not, but would contract with the builders.
Commissioner Eggenberger stated that the space between the units looks fine except for the
home near lot nine. He asked if the developer had given any thought to only putting in eight lots
rather than nine.
Mr. Ryan stated that they have always planned to put in nine lots. He stated that in looking at
the aerial photos, that neighboring property will be from twelve to twelve and a half feet from the
property line.
Commissioner Gault stated that he thinks the whole issue can be addressed by shifting
everything to the north by about 10 feet.
Chair Maddy asked if the villas would be walkouts.
Mr. Ryan stated that was an error and these homes will not have walkouts.
Chair Maddy opened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:40 P.M.
Aaron Hatz, 5765 Club Lane, stated that when he looked at the Hennepin County site, he came
up with a total of 2.47 acres and the notice of the hearing stated 2.79 acres. He stated that his
measurements would show a maximum of 5.4 lots. He stated that he is not a fan of the
proposed density with 9 lots and asked that the City would stick with the current zoning.
Alicia Rondeau, 5830 Club Lane, stated that she and her husband are very opposed to rezoning
the property and building 9 units in this location. She listed off the reasons that they moved to
the City and asked why the City would once again rezone this property when it was just rezoned
a few years ago. She asked what value these 9 villa homes would bring to the City. She noted
that she had taken a look at meeting minutes from 2016 and Chair Maddy had stated that he
was not in favor "spot zoning" and asked if the City would be considering only rezoning the 2
parcels being discussed or the whole area.
Chair Maddy stated that the Commission is only considering the two properties being proposed.
Ms. Rondeau asked that even if the Commission only considers rezoning those 2 parcels that
they consider traffic and the surrounding road conditions in their decision.
Planning Director Darling stated that she did not think a full traffic study would apply in this
situation because it is only 9 homes. She stated that the general thought for traffic is that there
would be ten trips per unit for a total of 90 homes - forty -five in and forty -five out - per day.
Ms. Rondeau asked if a traffic study was completed after the development of the Minnetonka
Country Club.
Planning Director Darling stated that there was no engineering traffic study conducted. She
noted that for the Minnetonka Country Club development, there was a citizen committee that
recommended improvements to adjacent roadways and some of those have been incorporated
into the design.
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Ms. Rondeau stated that the area is very congested and feels that there should be some
thought and study put into the traffic in the area before any rezoning is considered. She stated
that when the development at the Minnetonka Country Club went in, they were happy with the
proposed plans because even though there were over 100 homes going in, the exchange for
the people in the City was the greenspace, trails and ponds. She stated that the reality is that
they get a lot of trash in their yard from the development and the ponds and trails are all full of
trash as well. She stated that she does not see a lot of value in the proposed villas and asked if
the developer owned the land yet. Ms. Rondeau stated that she had looked at the developer's
website and noted that they stated that building more homes on a smaller footprint benefits the
local restaurants and businesses. She stated that Shorewood was established as a residential
community and does not have a lot of businesses or restaurants itself, and most are in the
surrounding communities. She noted that bringing in more residents would really just support
Excelsior and Tonka Bay businesses. She stated that she did not think bringing in 9 villa style
homes would add much to the tax base and feels keeping half acre lots and building homes in
the style of the Gonyea or Lennar Homes would be a better fit. She stated that the plans show
removal of thirty -five trees and only planting twenty -one trees. She noted that when her
neighbor rebuilt, they were required to put in three trees for every one that was taken down and
asked why this wasn't the same calculation used for this project.
Planning Director Darling explained that the tree replacement policy is three for one
replacement up to a maximum of eight per acre.
Ms. Rondeau stated that they were present for the massacre of the trees on the Minnetonka
Country Club development so it is disappointing to see that thirty -five trees will be taken down
and only replaced with twenty -one. She reiterated that she and her husband are 100% opposed
to rezoning this property and building the 9 villa homes.
Commissioner Gault asked for clarification from Planning Director Darling on the tree
replacement policy. He gave an example of having a one -acre lot where he removed sixty trees
and asked if he would only have to replace eight trees.
Planning Director Darling stated that this was correct.
Chair Maddy stated that Ms. Rondeau had asked what the value of this development would be
to the City. He stated that he would guess the developer would see the improved street, the
cul -de -sac and access to City water. He asked what Ms. Rondeau's opinion would be on that
answer.
Ms. Rondeau stated that her understanding of the rezoning process in 2016 was that any
developer that came in to build would have to widen the road and put in a cul -de -sac regardless
of how many homes were put in. She stated that her point is she thinks most residents saw the
Minnetonka Country Club as a good value added to the City and right now based on what she
has seen for this proposal there are more negatives than positives.
Commissioner Gault asked about the current parking situation on the street.
Ms. Rondeau stated that it is not good because it is a tight fit.
Commissioner Eggenberger asked if Ms. Rondeau had a two -level home.
Ms. Rondeau stated that it is basically a two -level home because it was an old farmhouse that
has been redone.
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Commissioner Gault stated that the villa homes have two car garages and asked how many
additional parking spots are in the driveways with the proposed setbacks.
Planning Director Darling stated that the developer is proposing a setback of twenty feet which
would provide two additional spaces on the driveway and the new street will be wider which
would also allow additional parking.
Shirley Bergslien, 24785 Smithtown Road, stated that Club Lane is very narrow and traffic is
already very heavy. She expressed concern about the proposed plans and the safety of her
neighbors with the additional traffic it will bring. She stated that she thinks the proposed cul -de-
sac is a good idea but asked if it really needed to be nine homes in this project.
J.P. Rondeau, 5830 Club Lane, stated that he hopes the Commission is able to put themselves
into the shoes of the residents on their little road and do what is best. He stated that the cul -de-
sac and street improvements will come with anyone that develops the property regardless of the
amount of homes. He stated that he is a business person and understands this property is hard
to sell with just four or five lots because of the costs associated with the road improvements. He
stated that he understands the dilemma, but that is not the existing residents' problem. He
stated that this neighborhood is a great, beautiful, little neighborhood and this proposed plan
would drastically change that dynamic because of the density and the loss of trees. He
reiterated a point his wife made that Shorewood is a residential area and is not Minneapolis,
because it gives people the ability to have a nice yard and a nice neighborhood. He once again
asked the Commission to put themselves in the shoes of the neighborhood residents and think
about a decision from that perspective.
Mike Neilon, 5795 Club Lane, stated that he agrees with everything the others have already
said. He noted that his concern that hasn't yet been raised is the safety of children in the area
with the density and the increase in traffic that it will bring. He stated that they just heard about
this proposal one week ago. He stated that they moved from Chanhassen to Shorewood so
they could have an acre lot. He stated that his concern is personal because he has had young
family members hit by cars in a condensed neighborhood similar to what is being proposed. He
stated that if these nine homes are put in, as long as they live on Club Lane, they will have
anxiety whenever the children are outside. He reiterated Mr. Rondeau's plea that the
Commission put themselves into the shoes of the people living in this neighborhood. He stated
that nine homes is too much and does not want greed to dictate what the community becomes.
Jim Quast, 24800 Smithtown Road, stated that when Christopher Lane was put in there were
nine homes put onto six acres. He asked why the City was considering building this many
homes in such a small space. He asked if there was opposition to having large yards. He stated
that he thinks putting nine homes in this location is too much and expressed concern about
snow storage with this many additional homes and vehicles. He stated that he thinks there are
many more negatives than positives with this proposal.
Josh Reidel, 5815 Club Lane, stated that he opposes the nine villas and agrees with everything
that has already been stated. He stated that he cannot wrap his head around the proposal. He
questioned why the cul -de -sac proposed is a substandard size and asked why the rules would
be changed to allow this and noted that he feels they should have to follow the same rules as
the Minnetonka Country Club development. He reiterated that he is 100% opposed to this
proposal.
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Chair Maddy closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:11 P.M.
Chair Maddy noted that staff had recommended continuing this to the next meeting in order for
the developer to address some of the issues brought up in the staff report.
Curt Fretham, Lake West Development, stated that they understand the concerns that have
been raised and will do their best to address them. He stated that they did look at other
possibilities and building just four or five homes just doesn't make the bottom line work in this
situation. He reviewed some of the other options that were considered but noted that they would
not involve the costs associated with street improvements. He stated that if they have to cover
the costs of street improvements and water hook ups, they need to put the larger amount of
homes in. He stated that they could just put in one house on the property, but then they would
not do any street improvements.
Commissioner Gorham stated that he does not necessarily think the developers are greedy or
mean - hearted. He stated that the question becomes how is Club Lane placed within the context
of the City as a whole, and into Minnetonka Country Club. He stated that the developer is trying
to look at this in conjunction with the Minnetonka Country Club development and the residents
on Club Lane are asking for it to be considered on its own. He stated that he is not in a "cut a
deal" mode right now and can only talk about what is in front of him and to him, the proposal
seems like too much. He stated that he understands staff's recommendation to table this in
order for them to address some of the issues raised in the report, however, he doesn't think
anything they will be able to show will make him change his mind and support the project.
Commissioner Gault stated that he agrees that the proposed P.U.D. goes right to the heart of
changing the character of the neighborhood and does not think the Minnetonka Country Club
P.U.D. should be used as a comparison because that was essentially a large undeveloped
piece of property, not an existing neighborhood. He stated that he agreed that he did not think
that this proposed plan is in keeping with the nature of the City.
Commissioner Eggenberger stated that he does not think the developers are greedy either nor
are just businessmen looking to maximize their profit. He stated that he understands that
people do not want change but feels that smaller homes and smaller lots will become a reality,
even in Shorewood. He stated that he agrees with the other Commissioners that he does not
think this proposal fits in this neighborhood.
Chair Maddy stated that he agreed.
Mr. Fretham asked if the Commission could go ahead and call for a vote rather than continuing
it to the next meeting.
Chair Maddy stated that it appears as though it is moving in that direction.
Gault moved, Eggenberger seconded, recommending that the Council deny the request
for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Rezoning, PUD (Concept and Development Plan)
and Preliminary Plat for "Club Lane Villas" at 24845 Smithtown Road and 5810 Club
Lane. Motion passed 4/0.
Council Liaison Labadie asked Chair Maddy to explain the next process since the Commission
has voted unanimously to deny the request.
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Chair Maddy stated that the developer may pull their application, but the next step would still be
to move it to the Council for discussion.
Chair Maddy called a brief recess at 8:25 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 8:27 P.M.
4. OTHER BUSINESS — NONE
5. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR - NONE
6. REPORTS
Liaison to Council
Council Liaison Labadie reported on matters considered and actions taken during Council's May
13, 2019, meeting (as detailed in the minutes for that meeting). She noted that an offer was
extended on behalf of the Fire Board for a new Fire Chief and the deadline for acceptance is
May 22, 2019. She stated that she has asked for an accounting for the money spent on
fireworks for the Firecracker 5K. She explained that she asked that a family cap be considered
for the event to make it more affordable for families to run in the events, and was told that much
of the money goes towards fireworks. She stated that she knows all the area communities and
many businesses also contribute to fireworks so she would like to see the accounting for the
fireworks. She encouraged residents and Commissioners to contact Tim Litfin at Community Ed
with any of their concerns and feedback about their events.
Draft Next Meeting Agenda
Planning Director Darling stated there is a concept stage development and proposed
Comprehensive Plan amendment for the area north of Highway 7 near Eureka Road; an
informal review of a draft ordinance amendment on removing the CUP requirement for larger
accessory buildings; a CUP for an oversized garage; and a CUP for a specialty fence for a taller
batting cage slated for the June 4, 2019 meeting.
Commissioner Eggenberger noted that he will be out of town for the June 4, 2019 Planning
Commission meeting.
Planning Director Darling noted that the Met Council has released updated population counts
and are saying that Shorewood has 7,693 people which is less than the City had last year. She
noted that it is interesting because the City also had seventy new homes built last year.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Eggenberger moved, Gault seconded, adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of
May 21, 2019, at 8:37 P.M. Motion passed 4/0.