08-09-21 CC Reg Mtg Agenda Packet
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MONDAY, AUGUST 9, 2021 7:00 P.M.
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AGENDA
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
A. Pledge of Allegiance
B. Roll Call
Mayor Labadie___
Siakel___
Johnson___
Callies___
Gorham___
C. Review and Adopt Agenda
Attachments
2. CONSENT AGENDA The Consent Agenda is a series of actions which are being considered for adoption this evening
under a single motion. These items are considered routine and non-controversial. However, a council member may request that an
item be removed from the Consent Agenda for separate consideration or discussion. If there are any brief concerns or questions by
council, those can be answered now.
Motion to approve items on the Consent Agenda & Adopt Resolutions Therein:
A. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes of July 26, 2021 Minutes
B. Approval of the Verified Claims List Claims List
C. LMCIT Insurance Waiver City Administrator Memo
D. Calling for Special Meeting for Retreat City Administrator Memo
Resolution 21-083
E. Approve Mary Lake Agreement, City Project 19-09 Engineer Memo
Resolution 21-084
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR This is an opportunity for members of the public to bring an item, which is not on
tonight's agenda, to the attention of the mayor and council. If you want to address the council, please use the raise your hand
feature. Once you are recognized, please identify yourself by your first and last name and your address for the record. After this
introduction, please limit your comments to three minutes. All comments will be respectful. No action will be taken by the council on
this matter, but the mayor or council could request that staff place this matter on a future agenda. (No Council Action will be
taken)
4. PUBLIC HEARING
5. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
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A. Mike Meehan, Chief SLMPD 2022 Budget Presentation
B. GreenCorps Presentation Keely Schultz, GreenCorps
6. PARKS
A. Report by Commissioner Heinz and Commissioner Hirner on Minutes
07-27-21 Park Commission Meeting
B. Three Rivers LRT Trailhead Connection in Freeman Park Planning Director Memo
C. Authorize Purchase of Community Garden Fence at Park and Rec Director Memo
South Shore Park Resolution 21-087
7. PLANNING
8. ENGINEERING/PUBLIC WORKS
9. GENERAL/NEW BUSINESS
A. Repeal Section 110 of City Code - Domestic Partner Registry City Administrator Memo
Ordinance 580
10. STAFF AND COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Staff
B. Mayor and City Council
11. ADJOURN
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MONDAY, JULY 26, 2021 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
Mayor Labadie called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A. Roll Call
Present. Mayor Labadie; Councilmembers Johnson, Siakel, Callies, and Gorham; City
Attorney Keane; City Administrator Lerud; City Clerk/HR Director Thone; Finance
Director Rigdon; Planning Director Darling; Director of Public Works Brown; and,
City Engineer Budde
Absent: None
B. Review Agenda
Johnson moved, Siakel seconded, approving the agenda as presented. All in favor.
Motion passed.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Labadie reviewed the items on the Consent Agenda.
Callies moved, Johnson seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent
Agenda and Adopting the Resolutions Therein.
A. City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes of July 12, 2021
B. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes of July 12, 2021
C. City Council Special Meeting Minutes of July 15, 2021
D. Approval of the Verified Claims List
E. Appointment of Administrative Assistant
F. Approve Final Payment for 2021 Pavement Marking, City Project 21-04,
RESOLUTION NO. 21-078, “A Resolution for Acceptance and Final Payment,
City Project 21-04, the 2021 Pavement Marking Plan.”
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G. Accept Improvements and Partial Release for Minnetonka Country Club 1,
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2, and 3 Additions, City Projects 14-13, 15-06, and 16-04 RESOLUTION NO.
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21-079, “A Resolution Accepting Improvements and Partial Release of Letter
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of Credit for Minnetonka Country Club 1, 2, and 3 Additions.”
All in favor. Motion passed.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Brent Hislop, 6000 Strawberry Lane, distributed some graphics for the Council to see. He stated
that their home abuts the road project that will be discussed later in the agenda. He thanked the
City staff and the Council for all their hard work with the stormwater project because he thinks this
is sorely needed in the City. He stated that he had a brief conversation with City Engineer Budde
about a year ago as the ponding project was getting going. He stated that the first item he would
like to be taken into consideration is the existing pond. He stated that the pond was likely dug
sometime in the 1980s and noted that it is private property but the City has a drainage and utility
easement over it. He asked that the City consider dredging or cleaning the existing pond
somehow to assist with moving water from their area. He stated that he would also like to ask
the old drain tile pipe somehow be improved and noted that this would not just be of benefit to
their property, but to the surrounding area. He stated that the last thing he would like to ask for
work to be done on portions of the regional trail to restore the ditch to allow the pond to flow either
to the pond or down the trail. He stated that there is an old culvert at Strawberry and the trail that
he believes is clogged.
George Greenfield, 24715 Yellowstone Trail, asked Councilmember Johnson what the statutory
justification is for appointing someone rather than electing someone to the Council vacancy.
Mayor Labadie explained that question would be more appropriate for City Attorney Keane.
Mr. Greenfield explained that the reason he addressed his question to Councilmember Johnson
was that he had asked him that question a few months ago and never received an answer. He
stated that he is concerned that the Council did not scrutinize this matter well enough to know the
rationale for having an appointment rather than a special election.
Mayor Labadie explained that the Council consists of residents of the City, but counts on guidance
from the City Attorney as well as the League of Minnesota Cities on that matter. Cities are allowed
to appoint someone to fill a Council vacancy in this situation if the remaining term was less than
two years, so the City was justified in seeking applications, conducting interviews, and appointing
someone to fill the seat. She stated that the City received around thirteen applications and the
vacant seat was filled following two rounds of interviews. She stated that the City followed state
statute and the guidance of the League of Minnesota Cities and the City Attorney.
Mr. Greenfield stated that he would disagree that there was less than two years left on the term
vacated by Mayor Labadie. He stated that mathematically she had to resign her term before she
was sworn in as mayor, so that means there was more than two years left on her term. He stated
that he feels it had nothing to do with the fact that there were less than two years left on the term
and read aloud a portion of the Statute. He stated that the fact that the Council did not know the
real reason and were unable to articulate it, indicates their indifference to the democratic process
because they chose to take the will of four people over the will of the registered voters in the City.
He stated that they were technically correct, but derelict in their investigation of the justification.
Councilmember Siakel stated that the Council did absolutely nothing wrong and followed State
statute and the guidance of its legal counsel.
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Mr. Greenfield argued that less than half is still more than two and feels it is a logical fact that
cannot be disputed. Mayor Labadie stated that they can calculate the number of days for Mr.
Greenfield if he would like, but he explained that he had exceeded his allotted three minutes. Mr.
Greenfield stated that there is no time limit on his First Amendment rights about redress for
petitions for grievances. He stated that the three minutes thing comes from Roberts Rules of
Order which have no legal standing. Mayor Labadie thanked Mr. Greenfield for expressing his
opinion.
4. PUBLIC HEARING
5. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
6. PARKS
7. PLANNING
A. Report by Commissioner Huskins on July 6, 2021 Planning Commission Meeting
Commissioner Huskins gave an overview of the July 6, 2021 Planning Commission Meeting as
reflected in the minutes.
B. Variance to a Side Yard Setback
Applicant: Kimberly Poe
Location: 23320 Park Street
Planning Director Darling explained that this is a request for a variance to allow an addition to
the home located at 23320 Park Street. The properties around this home are all single family
home except for an open space property owned by the City located to the northwest. The property
was created in 1987 and the home was constructed in 1924 prior to modern zoning regulations.
The home was constructed six feet from the property line and the applicant has proposed to add
a main floor bathroom and front entryway. She explained that the addition would be slightly over
seven feet to the side property line. The Planning Commission recommended approval.
Councilmember Johnson noted that at the meeting it was clarified that the concern raised by a
neighbor was on the opposite side of the house, so would not cause issues.
Gorham moved, Johnson seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-080, “A Resolution a
Variance to the Side Yard Setback for Property Located at 23320 Park Street.” All in favor.
Motion passed.
C. Minor Subdivision/Lot Line Adjustment
Applicant: Todd Cebulla
Location: 19210 Waterford Place and 5520 Vine Hill Road
Planning Director Darling explained that this is a request by the property owner for a lot line
adjustment effecting two properties that he owns. She stated that both existing and proposed
lots meet the required minimum lot size. The Planning Commission recommended approval
subject to the condition that the applicant submit executed drainage and utility easements for the
periphery of both lots.
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Callies moved, Siakel seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-081, “A Resolution
Approving a Lot Line Adjustment for Properties at 19210 Waterford Place and 5520 Vine
Hill Road.” All in favor. Motion passed.
D. CUP for a Fence
Applicant: Jacob Gustafson and Allison Spies
Location: 4865 Ferncroft Drive
Planning Director Darling stated that this is a Conditional Use request for a five foot fence where
a four foot fence is permitted. She stated that this property backs up to Lake William which has
a fifty foot setback to high water elevation and beyond the setback, the applicants are proposing
to enclose their rear yard with a five foot black vinyl chain link fence to give their dogs freedom to
roam the rear yard. The fencing regulations indicate that fences may not exceed four feet in height
in that portion of the rear yard, but allow for taller fences upon approval of a CUP. The Planning
Commission recommended approval.
Councilmember Gorham referenced past discussion about a similar request on Club Lane. He
stated that he and another one of the Planning Commissioners did not want the fence along
Smithtown, but felt it could be done with conditions which, he feels was the spirit of the CUP. He
stated that he feels it is a permitted use, with conditions. He stated that he did not see conditions
listed in this situation and asked if it was because if was black chain link, in the back yard, or
because there is a differentiation between Lake William and Smithtown. He stated that for him,
lake access is still a priority for the City, appearance-wise and he does not know if the City is
‘conditioning’ this approval and instead just saying it is okay, almost like a variance with no
conditions. He asked if there was any discussion about conditions upon recommendation.
Planning Director Darling stated that the only condition that is included are that they have to get
the zoning permit for the fence before they can install it and the City wanted them to show the
plans for the retaining wall in the backyard that was discovered across the property line. They
have since let the City know that they are proposing to remove the retaining wall where it crosses
the property line rather than submit an encroachment agreement. She stated that other conditions
were not applied, but the Council could apply one that the fence cannot be replaced with anything
more opaque than the black vinyl chain link materials. She stated that this is not a variance so
the applicant does not have to show practical difficulties.
Councilmember Gorham stated that the application was almost like it was pretending to be a
variance and making arguments that he considered ‘variance’ arguments, not conditional use
arguments. Planning Director Darling stated that may be the case, but the City looks at the
general standards of the conditional use, which some of them are similar to the broader variance
standards.
Councilmember Gorham stated that there was some screening discussion and suggested that
perhaps that be included as a condition of approval. Planning Director Darling confirmed that the
Council could do that, but it is a see-through fence, but they could require some screening that it
would like.
Councilmember Callies stated that in order to approve a CUP, they have to comply with the
conditions in the ordinance and there are not any other particular ones regarding fence, other
than in order to have a fence taller than four feet they need to get a CUP. She stated that the
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applicants are complying with the conditions as stated in the code. She stated that she does not
see the point of having screening because that would negate the idea behind having a chain link
fence. She asked where Councilmember Gorham would recommend that screening be placed.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he was thinking between the fence and the lake.
Councilmember Callies noted that she feels that would block the view more than just the fencing.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she does not really understand Councilmember Gorham’s
comment regarding lake access.
Councilmember Gorham asked if the Council felt strongly about a five or six foot tall fence on
Smithtown whether they also felt that way about a five foot fence on the backside of a property
abutting Lake William. He stated that his impression is no and noted that he had meant to ask it
as an open ended question.
Councilmember Siakel explained that she had also reflected on the request on Club Lane, but in
that instance, it was a six foot tall, solid wood fence down the property line in a newly constructed
home. She stated that she feels like they are two different scenarios and thinks they should each
be considered on their own merits.
Councilmember Johnson stated that was also the bulk of the discussion among the Planning
Commission and their ultimate decision was that the two situations, while somewhat similar, have
unique characteristics that make them completely separate.
Commissioner Huskins stated that part of the Planning Commission discussion was that, how
they understood the application and the plans, it included not only the fence, but landscaping near
the fencing. He stated that their understanding was that the landscaping, as it matured, would
grow above the five feet. The Planning Commission had a discussion about the difference
between a four and five foot tall fence if the intent was to put landscaping that, as it matured,
would cover the fence and beyond. He suggested that the Council may want to include that as a
condition.
Councilmember Callies stated that she thinks the Council could add a condition that the type of
fence not be changed and continued to be a see-through chain link fence.
Mayor Labadie asked Allison Spies, the applicant, if the conditions being discussed were ones
that they were willing to meet. Ms. Spies stated that they absolutely would be fine with the
conditions discussed. She stated that they do not want to obscure their own view of the lake and
the hope is to help it blend as much as possible with the existing vegetation.
Callies moved, Johnson seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-082, “A Resolution
Approving a Conditional Use Permit for a Fence for the Property Located at 4865 Ferncroft
Drive, with the condition that the fence type remain as chain link.” All in favor. Motion
passed.
E. Sign Ordinance Amendments
Planning Director Darling explained that after the last election and due to the number of
complaints the City received, Council asked staff to review the regulations regarding campaign
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signage. She stated that they specifically asked staff to look into whether campaign signs should
be prohibited in the public right-of-way or if the City should increase the setback. Staff presented
information to the Planning Commission with a summary table of several other cities and provided
background information from State Statutes and the League of Minnesota Cities on this topic.
She explained that during election season which is defined as forty-six days prior to the State
primary and ten days following the election, cities have no ability to regulate the number of signs
but they can regulate where the signs may be placed, including prohibiting them from public rights-
of-way. She stated that a number of other cities do prohibit them from public rights-of-way which
Shorewood has not done but only required a ten foot setback from the road surface. Staff has
also proposed providing a clear view triangle at intersections so signs do not block visibility around
corners. She gave an overview of the substitution clause and related definitions for commercial
and non-commercial speech which is an important addition to the code because it allows non-
commercial speech signs at any time of the year and not just during elections. She reviewed the
Planning Commission discussions from three separate meetings, and explained that they found
a greater setback would be inappropriate in areas of the City where homes are closer than typical
to the street and are recommending the current setback of ten feet from the street remain. She
stated that the Planning Commission held a public hearing and noted that in addition to the letter
attached to the packet, staff received another letter on July 23, 2021 noting concerns with the
amendment. She stated that this letter was e-mailed to the Council and will now be part of the
packet for the meeting.
Councilmember Callies stated that she has a few concerns about some of the recommended
changes. She stated that she thinks ten feet from the street for campaign signs is not really
feasible in many areas of the City, including her neighborhood. She stated that she is unsure
how strictly these things are enforced, but has concerns about putting it into the regulations
because ten feet is a lot, when it is actually measured. She suggested changing the language to
say something like, ‘no sign shall put in a way that is creating a hazard’. She understands that
this is subjective, but thinks that ten feet is too much for many neighborhoods in the City.
Planning Director Darling pointed out that the current setback is ten feet, and this is not being
changed. City Attorney Keane noted that ten feet is also what is referenced in State Statute.
Mayor Labadie noted that the Council had not asked staff to research this item but asked if other
neighboring cities have similar restrictions or similar language. Planning Director Darling stated
this information was included in a table that was attached to the packet and explained that the
majority of the cities prohibit signs in the right-of-way.
Councilmember Gorham noted that the only city he saw with a ten-foot setback was Minnetonka
and asked if there were any that had a five-foot setback. Planning Director Darling stated that
most of them just simply said no signs in the public right-of-way. She stated the rights-of-way
throughout the City are varied from what is essentially a cartway with an eight or twelve foot right-
of-way and in other places there is sixty-five or seventy feet. It is hard to know when investigating
a complaint, which one it happens to be, which is why staff thinks it is wise to have the ten foot
setback. She stated that it would also be some other measurement, but that it be consistent from
the edge of the roadway.
Councilmember Callies asked about the number of complaints this issue receives and stated that
she would think there would be more issues with permanent signs in the right-of-way and not
temporary signs such as election signs.
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Planning Director Darling stated that they do get complaints about signs placed in the public right-
of-way. She stated that they recently had a complaint about a company that had just gone all the
way down Smithtown Road and installed signs that were clearly within the right-of-way. She
stated that during the last campaign period, the City had a lot of complaints, but they were mostly
that certain candidates put in a sign that was blocking their candidate’s sign.
Councilmember Siakel stated that to her, this measurement just provides some clarification and
she does not have an issue with it.
Councilmember Callies stated that she understands that sentiment, but does not like having a
regulation that the City says they are going to basically turn a blind eye to it.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she does not feel it is turning a blind eye to it, but the City has
no control over what people put in their own yards and is just clarifying this and noted that the real
issue the City has had is with the right-of-way.
Alan Yelsey, 26335 Peach Circle, stated that he submitted a letter regarding this issue. He stated
that it always comes down to principles for him and he has listened carefully to the Council and
he does not hear principles. He stated that the right-of-way does not supersede the right of
freedom of speech and democracy. He stated that instead of attempting to limit people’s rights
during elections they should be encouraging them to express their own opinions. He stating that
holding this meeting and not allowing people to speak over Zoom is also a limitation on democracy
and freedom of speech. He stated that he would have preferred to speak to the Council over
Zoom. He stated that it is abhorrent that they did that and he would like to know who made that
decision because he would like to challenge the decision. He stated that he happens to be one
of the largest political sign placers in the area and explained that most people do not exactly know
what right-of-way is. He stated that the non-commercial signs that are placed throughout town
are within ten feet and the reason is so they can be seen by cars and people walking by. Many
people have grandfathered in plantings and fences that are within ten feet from the road which
makes it impossible to place a sign in many properties in the community. He asked what
superseded the Council’s decision making and whether it was protecting the City’s right-of-way
because no one enforces it fairly or is it to make sure that people have the right of freedom of
speech and it is not impeded as much as possible, unless there are safety concerns. He
suggested that there be wording that says that signs cannot be placed immediately by the road.
He stated that it is horrific to watch his town limit freedom of speech in this meeting, using Zoom
as an example where people are not allowed to speak who are not able to come to the meeting
due to being disabled or they are home taking care of someone. He stated that this administration
does not seem to care about democracy whatsoever, or hold it as precious as he does. He stated
that there is a movement now that will challenge the Council on all of these aspects, legally as
well as at the ballot box. He stated that legally, he has looked at the State ordinance and sent it
to the City, because it did not state a ten foot setback.
City Attorney Keane explained that during general election years there are basically no sign
regulations for forty-six days before an election and ten days after. Mr. Yelsey agreed that there
is no restriction on size, location, or number of signs. He stated that the State does not dictate
that this is done. The surrounding communities, for example, Tonka Bay, in the last election did
take some of their signs from right-of-way for one day. He stated that it was an administrator who
did that because this issue is not properly or equally enforced. He stated that the Council is
attempting to interfere with a democratic process that is precious to many. He reiterated that he
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feels they are interfering with it by not allowing the Zoom meeting and also feels the three minute
limit speaking protocol is uncalled for and unnecessary.
Mayor Labadie stated that Mr. Yelsey is bringing up many points that are not on the agenda.
Mr. Yelsey stated that he is bringing up the principle of democracy and is what he would like to
speak about. He stated that the sign issue is one of those principles but he is also asking the
Council, before the chance is lost, to begin to enforce the precious democracy and allow all to
have the right to freedom of speech without impeding it. He asked why the right-of-way is so
precious when it will not even be enforced because there are signs located within the right-of-way
all over the City right now. He stated that if the Council is unclear about whether something is a
good idea or not, just ask the citizens, as part of the democratic process. He stated that he is
100% opposed to any restrictions on where signs can be placed other than for site line issues or
that they provide an impediment to pedestrians or vehicles.
Mayor Labadie thanked Mr. Yelsey for his comments and noted that his comments and opinions
have been duly noted. She asked the Council if they would like to move forward with this
discussion or continue it for a future meeting.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he would like additional time to discuss it and referenced past
Planning Commission discussions regarding the different sizes of right-of-way.
Councilmember Siakel clarified that the Council did not create this and it was brought to them and
many items are brought up by the public. She noted that the Council does not invent things to
put on the agenda. She stated that she is fine taking more time to discuss.
Mayor Labadie stated that she would also like to continue it to a future meeting and asked staff
to place it on a future agenda. She stated that this will allow anyone in the community to come
and discuss this matter in a democratic format in order for their voice to be heard.
8. ENGINEERING/PUBLIC WORKS
A. Strawberry Lane Design Parameters
Mayor Labadie stated that before the discussion begins, she would like to assure the residents
that her mind has not already been made up about the design and while she cannot speak for the
rest of the Council, she believes they have also not made up their minds. She noted that she has
read all the e-mails that she has received regarding this project.
City Engineer Budde explained the original proposal and noted that it had prompted overwhelming
feedback from the residents along the corridor. He stated that the feedback was that they did not
support the eight foot wide trail and would like to see something similar to Smithtown Road which
has a six food wide concrete sidewalk adjacent to the back of curb. He stated that some of the
feedback was also that no sidewalk facilities were necessary. He stated that based on the
feedback, staff did a more detailed look at the six foot wide sidewalk option to explore pros and
cons of how it would affect the project. He stated that they found the overall width of the corridor
would be reduced by seven feet from what was originally proposed. He stated that this reduced
width had some nuances for other portions of the project and gave a brief over of those items.
He explained that this option was presented at the neighborhood meeting and the City received
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comments after that meeting that the residents still did not like this option because it did not reduce
the impacts in front of their house on the south side, but the west side gained about six feet
because of the shift. He stated that the reason that they did this was to take advantage of the
existing right-of-way. He gave an overview of the process that has happened, to date, regarding
this project, dating back to 2012. He explained that if the Council decides to move the project
forward, staff would continue to do final design and complete right-of-way acquisition with
whoever they need to throughout the months of August and September. The final design will be
completed in the winter which will be brought back to the Council for approval of the plan and
authorization to bid. He stated that about a month or two later the Council would bring it back in
for awarding of the contract. He explained that, ideally, tree removal would happen during spring
and winter of 2022 and the major construction happen in spring/summer/fall of 2022. He stated
that, per City Code, right-of-way widths need to be at a minimum of one hundred feet for arterial
roadways, sixty feet for collector roadways, and fifty feet for local streets. Strawberry Lane is a
local street, and they have been able to fit it within the fifty foot corridor, with the sidewalk option.
A few of the adjacent streets, near the neighborhood are currently built to the same standard
being proposed here. He noted that this design will require acquiring roadway easement from
four additional property owners on the west side. He stated that from a design and functionality
standpoint, both the original option and the revised option would work and the difference is the
additional cost and risk associated with needing to acquire additional properties. He stated that
reducing the project and shifting things, the City would save about $65,000 on construction and
right-of-way acquisition costs. He noted that the City has received ballpark pricing from Xcel
Energy regarding moving the overhead utilities to underground, however there are two other
communication lines that share the same poles. He stated that the ballpark estimate is for around
$200,000 from Xcel and would estimate that it will be about $100,000 for each other
communication utility to move them underground. He stated that this was not originally included
in the scope of the project and the City’s position is that if this is pursued, these costs will be 100%
assessable to the adjacent residents and would also require agreement from 100% of the
neighbors before they would pursue that any further. He stated that it would be about an $8,000
assessment. Many homes have an overhead service from the pole directly to their house, which
would cost an additional estimated $2,000 to move underground. He stated that his
understanding is that, at this point, the City is not pursuing moving the utilities underground
because of those factors. He stated that he is looking for feedback from the Council on whether
the City should pursue the six foot wide sidewalk tied to the back of curb or the eight foot wide
trail with a five foot boulevard. The feedback from the neighborhood meeting was about 95-99%
in favor of the six foot side sidewalk versus the eight foot trail. He stated that he would also like
feedback on whether or not the City should pursue shifting Strawberry Lane six feet to the west
on the south half which will require acquiring right-of-way from four additional property owners, or
leave it where it was last recommended to center it with the available right-of-way and not impact
the residents on the west side.
Councilmember Callies asked why the City was even looking at doing this project and what the
impetus was for improving Strawberry Lane. City Engineer Budde stated that from his
understanding there have been drainage issues up and around the surrounding area for a long
time. He stated that reconstruction of Strawberry Lane can help improve those issues and
believes Strawberry Lane has been identified in the City’s Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) for at
least five years. He stated that the City gets a lot of comments about the condition of the roadway
being terrible and a lot of comments from people expressing interest in being on City water and
this project will help facilitate a number of residents north of the trail onto City water. He stated
that there have also been a number of complaints about safety, so all of those factors go into the
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need for the project and reiterated that it has been on the City’s CIP for five years with this year
being the targeted year for the project.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she has served on the Council for 11 years and Strawberry
Lane was one of the first things discussed when she came onto the Council. She stated that one
of the neighbors participated on the Trail Committee which was put together with residents from
throughout the City that looked at where there were existing sidewalks, where they were needed,
and what the consensus around those was. She explained that the goal of the Trail Committee
was to look at where the City was with trail development, devise a plan, and prioritize the projects.
Strawberry Lane has always been one of the top priorities because it links to a school.
Councilmember Siakel stated that this has been talked about for a long time and there have been
residents that came in to talk about it. She stated that it has been talked about at least as long
as she has been on the Council for the trails and the road plan. She stated that she believes that
this project has actually been delayed and was originally supposed to be done in 2017. She
stated that she knows the City has applied for grants for a trail along Strawberry Lane because it
connects to the school and reiterated that it has been a conversation for years. She stated that
Minnewashta used to be a small school and that is not longer the case so there is more
conversation about increased safety and drivability along Strawberry Lane.
Siakel stated that she can see why someone would not want the eight-foot parkway and agrees
that may be overkill in this situation but thinks something like the sidewalk going down Smithtown
Road would make it much safer for pedestrians. She stated that she is in favor of the sidewalk
and thinks it needs to be there, but also felt the City needs to listen to residents and make sure
that something is done that is compatible with the existing street and put something in that
everyone can agree upon. She stated that she supports the idea of the six-foot sidewalk and
thinks whatever can be done with the least impact and the less the City has to purchase property,
the better. She stated that anything the City does absolutely has to improve the drainage in the
area. She stated that she is confident that the City can work with residents so Strawberry Lane
is designed in a way that will be as least disruptive as possible.
Mayor Labadie stated that she has served on the Council for quite a while and prior to that served
on the Planning Commission for several years and agrees with what Councilmember Siakel
stated, however, the reasoning is not only because the end of Strawberry land ends in a school.
There is also the trail running through, a park at the other end, and will now link to the sidewalk.
She stated that at the start of these discussions the Smithtown sidewalk did not exist and was
just a vision. She stated that the Council will listen to the residents, but stated that she is not sure
that everyone will walk away happy from this project. She stated that this is a generational
decision and is a decision that will impact more than the current property owners. She stated that
it will impact the City, the City footprint, and generations to come. The Council takes these types
of decisions very seriously and would like to hear the residents input.
Councilmember Gorham asked what is being saved by doing right-of-way, from the standpoint of
trees or property. He stated that the project right now is very broad and not very nuanced. He
stated that he does not believe the City has tried to minimize the impact of this as much as
possible. He stated that it may be possible that the City has looked at it enough, but presenting
over-simplified plans makes it appear as though the City has not looked at it enough. He stated
that the block diagrams being presented feel very programmatic.
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City Engineer Budde stated that staff started the final design earlier this spring, so that process
has just begun. He stated that it is hard to know all the nuances without getting into the meat and
potatoes and going through final plan development. He stated that every time a new option comes
up, they must develop new plan specifics which takes time and energy. He stated that they have
looked at these three options now, and in the grand scheme of things, the tree loss between the
two options with a six foot sidewalk he does not know yet because he has to continue to
coordinate with drainage, watermain, and private utilities, which all end up having reasons that a
tree could be taken down. He stated that he does not know those kinds of details yet and
explained that it is hard to give firm answers on what all the impacts will be without diving into
plan details.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he understands, but it is difficult to decide based on a plan
that seems like a 25-30% design. City Engineer Budde stated that it is probably about 50%
because they have a very good understanding of the drainage and what they would like to improve
as well as a good understanding of where they think the watermain would go. However, all the
factors about tweaking a road alignment messes all that stuff up, so it will need to be redone. He
explained that from his perspective, if he knew what were the most sensitive items that the City
could try to minimize, they can work on those things. He gave the example of tree loss and
explained that if that was the most important, they could do things to minimize tree loss by things
like alternative construction methods or people being more accepting to root impacts without
having to take the entire tree down. He stated that there are things, in this regard, that have not
even been looked at.
Councilmember Gorham stated that one thought regarding this whole process is that this is not a
final design. He suggested that the City start calling this phase the preliminary design with final
design being something that is way down the road when it is being bid out. He stated that he
thinks the terminology scares people. City Engineer Budde explained that he considers the
feasibility study being the preliminary design.
Councilmember Gorham stated that from a design perspective when looking at this, it is looking
at drainage and minimizing right-of-way, but feels the rural character should be somewhere on
the agenda as the design process begins. City Engineer Budde stated that a rural option was
never really on the table from when he started because the City standard is urban and to do
stormwater improvements. He stated that he has compared the impacts of urban versus rural
cross sections in other cities, and he said there is no doubt that there would be more tree loss
and greater impacts with a rural cross section to address drainage issues. There would be large,
wide ditches, which would require a lot more trees to come down and a lot more impact to the
front yards and most likely a lot less aesthetic. He stated that he cannot do what they are asking
him to do from a drainage perspective and keep it a rural section because there would be ditches
that are eight feet deep in people’s front yards.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he thinks that information is part of the story and has not
been communicated to the residents adequately. He stated that he thinks City Engineer Budde
is doing things and looking at this, but he has a question about why the road is as wide as it is
and asked if it could be narrower. City Engineer Budde explained that it could be narrower, but
he would not recommend it from an engineering perspective with relation to what the City is trying
to do with respect to standards and safety accommodations. He stated that he has seen streets
that are narrower, and they just do not function. He gave the example of a situation where there
is one landscaping truck that comes and parks their truck to unload their lawnmower which means
that two cars cannot get past.
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Councilmember Gorham stated that this is good information and suggested that this kind of
information be included in the ‘story’. Shorewood is changing, one street project at a time, and
eventually, all the streets will look like Smithtown which is why everyone is here, because they
like the way their street looks now. He stated that there are all these other things tugging at the
design, but the message is only ‘here is what I think should happen’ without explaining the
process. He stated that he feels the process is not robust enough because of how many people
are attending the meeting. City Engineer Budde stated that in his experience, you can never
make everyone happy on a project.
Councilmember Callies asked about the mention in the staff report that stated staff had looked at
maintaining the original roadway alignment without the shift to the east. She stated that if that is
maintained, she asked why there would be additional right-of-way acquisition that would be
necessary. City Engineer Budde explained that how some of the right-of-way was acquired in
much of this area is that some of the newer developments such as Shorewood Oaks, when they
plat, they are required to dedicate a little more right-of-way, so that is where the additional width
comes from. Some of the other rights-of-way are very tight, in his opinion, the City should have
additional right-of-way for things such as the needed signage or snow storage.
Councilmember Callies asked what he meant when he says ‘alignment’. City Engineer Budde
stated that a better description may be ‘keeping the same center-line of the roadway’.
Councilmember Callies asked for more details on the necessary right-of-way acquisitions with the
different options. City Engineer Budde stated that if the City keeps the existing alignment, it will
require acquisition from seven to eight property owners. He reviewed the options and the
acquisitions that would be necessary.
Councilmember Johnson asked if the intent was to bring each additional variable of this project
back before the Council, such as things like the overall alignment and the option about burying
power lines. City Engineer Budde explained that he would like as much feedback as the Council
will give him.
Mayor Labadie confirmed that City Engineer Budde is seeking feedback on the width of the
sidewalk of either six feet or eight feet and the inclusion of a five foot boulevard. She stated that
the overwhelming response from the neighbors on Strawberry Lane to go with the six foot wide
sidewalk.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he has fielded a lot of calls and can only recall three parties
that suggested moving forward with the eight-foot sidewalk and everybody else was in support of
six feet. Councilmember Callies stated that she had also received calls and e-mails, and some
would prefer that there not be anything. She stated that she does not even think there is a point
in even discussing an eight foot sidewalk with a boulevard because nobody supports that.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she agreed because eight feet is just too much and thinks the
six foot width that is consistent with Smithtown Road makes sense.
Mayor Labadie stated that she agreed and asked if there was anyone from the audience would
like to discuss the concept of an eight foot wide sidewalk with a five foot boulevard. There were
no interested parties.
There was a consensus to give direction moving forward with the six foot sidewalk option.
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Mayor Labadie noted that the other thing City Engineer Budde has asked for feedback on is the
easements and the centering of the roadway. She asked for Council input on this issue before
turning it over to resident feedback.
Councilmember Callies stated that she feels the City should minimize the number of acquisitions
that are necessary, and it is preferable to use existing right-of-way. Councilmember Siakel stated
that she would agree.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he does not feel as though the Council has enough
information to make a judgement call on what the impact of right-of-way versus minimal right-of-
way will be. He stated that this is just one suggestion for minimizing the impact but asked if there
may be other ways to minimize the impact to the street.
Councilmember Callies stated that she is unsure of his point and noted that the issue would
primarily be cost. Councilmember Gorham stated that he does not think the issue should be just
about cost and not about minimizing the impact of the street as much as possible. One calculus
is right-of-way, but that is just one ingredient in the recipe of the design and explained that he
cannot make a decision based solely on right-of-way. He asked if the Council was really being
asked to make a decision on what had been presented because he did not think that information
really told them anything.
Councilmember Johnson stated that, as a Council, they have a fiduciary responsibility to manage
costs, however, what looks good on paper in terms of cost, does not necessarily look good when
you walk down the street. He stated that as he walks down the street and sees the stakes on the
south side of the street, he sees an inequitable process because one side of the street receives
six feet to their yard and the other side loses. He stated that, to him, this splits the neighborhood
in half and creates the ‘haves’ and the ‘have nots’ which does not create a good neighborhood
feeling. He stated that he would be in favor of purchasing additional right-of-way in order to come
up with a more equitable solution. He stated that he agrees that there are some other variables
that need to be tackled, but they may not be appropriate at this point in the process, but feels they
do need to be discussed.
Mayor Labadie stated that she thinks it is clear that the Council has not yet made up their minds
and invited those present in the audience to give feedback to the Council on this project.
Dave Halbmaier, 26395 Shorewood Oaks Drive, stated that he has lived at this address for 28
years. He thanked the three Councilmembers who responded to their invitation and agreed to
meet with the residents of Strawberry Lane, on-site, to listen to their concerns and discuss the
project. He stated that he felt that was very helpful. He stated that there have been a number of
independent neighborhood meetings outside of the meeting with the City Engineer. He stated
that he was asked to speak as a spokesperson for a number of people as a way of being efficient
but clarified that he does not speak for all the people on Strawberry Lane. He stated that the first
part of their community input is not just about the project, but the process. He stated that he has
heard some things about COVID but noted that he has lived here for 28 years and what was done
in this situation was not enough communication. He stated that when the City was ready to start
the project, they felt they should have sat down with the residents and had a meeting about what
it would mean to them and do the stake stuff first. He stated that in reading the second goal of
the Comprehensive Plan, the City wants to engage community members and established two way
communication. He read aloud that portion of the Comprehensive Plan goals. He stated that if
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he overlays that goal with the process that has happened, there is a stark difference. He stated
that regardless of their opinion about the project, everybody has agreed on that point that there
needs to be more than what was done to engage the community members. He stated that the
City should have know that this was going to be a controversial project right from the start which
is why the City needs to start listening to people and talking to them before anything is done. He
stated that he thinks the process is backwards and while the Council is listening now, the
community trust has been violated and money has been wasted. He stated that it is going to be
a lot harder now to convince those eight residents to trust how the City will handle this.
Halbmaier stated that they understand one of the project goals is safety, but he is unconvinced
that the project will make Strawberry Lane safer overall. He stated that for thirty minutes on either
side of the school day it probably will, but for the other twenty-three hours in the day, it will not
make the road any safer. He stated that he also thinks that there will be more cars traveling on
Strawberry Lane and they will be traveling faster. He stated they feel it will be more dangerous
for the light rail or trail crossing with people on bikes and drivers around and will also be more
cars parked on the road. He stated that he had four children that attended Minnewashta and they
survived walking and biking on the road. He agreed that it can be dangerous but proper caution
needs to be used and taught for all roadways. He reiterated that he is not convinced that the net
overall safety will be improved.
Halbmaier stated that he has heard from a lot of residents that they like the narrow street look of
Strawberry Lane and they do not want to live on a Smithtown Road or Chanhassen with uniform
wide streets that feel and look the same. Strawberry Lane is a large part of the diversity of the
neighborhood and is what residents like about Shorewood. They are not interested in having a
Smithtown Road or having nice, uniform streets. He stated not having uniform streets is what
makes Shorewood unique and is something residents are so concerned about. He stated that
both proposals do not share the burden of the project with the residents on both sides of
Strawberry Lane which means some residents will lose one-third of their yard and driveway while
residents on the other side will have a six foot expansion of theirs. He stated that even the option
that has no boundary change shifts all the burden the other way.
On the June 22, 2021, Zoom call, Halbmaier asked the Council to not misunderstand wanting a
sidewalk versus a trail. He stated that it was just a comparison of what is the least evil, which
was the sidewalk. He stated that there is not a large group of people who want the sidewalk at
all, so he thinks the Council has misunderstood that sentiment. He stated that there is virtually
no difference between the trail or the sidewalk because the burden is still one-third loss of many
people’s front yards and driveways. If they want to look at minimizing community resident impact,
there needs to be a more balanced approach. He stated that there were 10 community members
who came over to his house and talked about this and all 10 of those people signed a document
that stated that they did not approve of Design A which shifts the centerline of the sidewalk. He
stated that he does not want the Council to think that the sidewalk, as discussed on the June 22,
2021, Zoom call, is something that the residents agree with, because they are not.
Halbmaier stated that they are also concerned that on the north side of the road there was no
staking done for where the roadway would end which is confusing. The project, in their opinion,
should be based on the overall cost to the residents, the environment, and the City. They do not
feel like the project or priority should be based on convenience to the City or the expedience of
the project. Both proposals do not represent the lowest cost or are the best proposal. He stated
that neither proposal is ideal and believes there is a better proposal out there and more
compromises that can be made. He stated that they are asking for the Council to reconsider the
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design parameters and find a superior and more balanced solution even though it will require
more work.
Scott Becker, 6165 Strawberry Lane, thanked the Council for taking the time to answer so many
e-mails from the residents. He stated that when it comes to evaluating a project, he noticed that
in the feasibility report that it pretty much stated the goal is to improve drainage and bring the
roads up to the standards, but he has been involved in a lot of very large development projects
and they also include what the project constraints were. He stated that the constraints were briefly
mentioned such as safety, environment, aesthetics, traffic flow, property values, happiness of the
residents. He stated that the $150,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to the value of what is
being done to the environment by taking out all these trees and is also a drop in the bucket
compared to their home values.
Becker stated that he would like to focus on safety and noted that he has found three publications
that talk about lane widths and safety. He stated that he shared one of them with Councilmember
Gorham when he visited, but explained that he had found two more since that time. He read
aloud quotes from the publications and noted that he can get copies of them to the Council. He
stated that he thinks that by going with the wider road, this increases the hardscape so much that
there will be a drainage problem. He stated that over-development in a swampier area is having
a domino effect throughout the City. He stated that one of the things that he sees as a
shortcoming is not just saying that their job is to put in a road according to the standards and do
the drainage, because there has to be other practical constraints that must be considered.
Becker stated that he thinks property values will go down and there will be a lot of unhappy
residents and not just those that live on their side, but also those that like walking and looking at
things. He stated that he thinks the City needs a broader more comprehensive view in evaluating
these designs. He stated that where the edge of the road is, is fine and does not understand why
it needs to move. He stated that he does not understand the difference between right-of-way
acquisitions and getting utility easements. He stated that he feels there are ways to minimize this
and noted that he and his wife are not saying no to the sidewalk or the project overall, but would
like for the City to find a way to have a balanced solution to all the things that matter because
Mayor Labadie is correct that this is a generational decision.
Mayor Labadie asked Mr. Becker to provide copies of the documents that he referenced to City
Hall to they can be distributed to the Council.
Cindy Becker, 6165 Strawberry Lane, stated that when their homes were built, the builders built
with the road in mind. She stated that some people, including her, put a tree too close to the road
and understands that it will go away. She stated that she has come to terms with the tree leaving,
but explained that she cannot move her house. She stated that her neighbor’s driveway is
currently fifty-three feet long and her driveway is fifty-nine feet. She stated that with the proposal,
the neighbor’s driveway will be fifty-nine feet and hers will be forty-one feet. She stated that the
proposed plan creates an unbalanced neighborhood that just is not aesthetically pleasing. She
stated that if the side of the road can be left where it is, the neighbor’s driveway will be fifty-three
feet and hers will be forty-seven, but that is what they consider ‘fair’ even though it does not fit
the perfect right-of-way.
Becker stated that in March of 2019, the U.N. General Assembly met, and speakers warned the
countries of the world that they had eleven years before there was irreversible climate change.
She referenced recent publications that use climate data of what is going on in the world that say
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there may be irreversible climate change in seven years. She referenced floods in Germany,
wild fires outside of the normal wild fire season, and terrible air quality. She stated that it may be
inconvenient for people to change their way of looking at the way they need to live. Deforestation
is known to be the major cause for the earth’s inability to absorb its carbon overload. The trees
on Strawberry Lane are over one-hundred years old and patting ourselves on the back when
saplings are planted to replace these huge trees does not replace the problem that is being
caused. She stated that she thinks people should plant more saplings, but not cut down old trees.
She stated that it is the age-old question of whether the City becomes part of the problem or part
of the solution. Trees, in addition to collecting the carbon, prevent flooding. She stated that she
is fighting to minimize the project and keep it more balanced so that the neighborhood maintains
its neighborhood appeal. She stated that they want to keep the quaint, tree-lined, slow moving
road and not allow it to become a through street with fast traffic and be kept as a neighborhood.
Chris Macomber, 26390 Peach Circle, stated that he has a very busy job downtown and part of
the reason they bought so far out was because he was willing to take a longer drive to get home
and be calm and enjoy the property and their lovely street. He stated that it is important for him
to keep it that way. He asked what the degree of clear-cut would be on either side for the road
project, regardless of which option is selected. He stated that his understanding is that it is five
to ten feet and noted that many of the residents have landscaping or other natural barriers on the
property. He stated that when he asked this question last year, what he heard back was that it
will grow back in two to three years. He stated that while he understands that this is a generational
decision, that means two or three years where the property is exposed so he would like to clearly
know what the additional impact is because this is of value to the residents.
Mark Hoffman, 6195 Strawberry Lane, stated that their main concern is that they would like to see
a traffic study while the project is going through the feasibility period. He stated that there is
already a speeding issue and would ask that widening the street be paused to evaluate whether
narrowing the street a bit would make sense and consider a five or six foot sidewalk for safety
purposes.
Bob Hennenkamp, 6075 Strawberry Lane, stated that the proposal has the biggest swath of
property taken from him and questioned whether it would be done by eminent domain. He asked
if he had any legal recourse towards the actual value of the property that he would be losing if
this project moves forward. He stated that he has no doubt that he will lose the big maple tree
that he planted when he built the house in 1978 even though he thought he had planted it far
enough back.
City Attorney Keane stated that for any portion of his property that is acquired, the City is first
obligated to make an offer and strive for a voluntary acquisition. He stated that it has to be a fair
market offer based on certified appraisers determination of damages and then there are three
more steps in the process to ensure that if an individual is still not satisfied there is a hearing
process with Commissioners who will listen and there are additional processes to abide by the
constitutional requirement under the Fifth Amendment that property shall be taken without fair
compensation. He stated that the City strives to avoid the process by making fair offers up front.
Councilmember Siakel noted that to her knowledge, the City has not ever used eminent domain.
Michelle Lee, 26400 Shorewood Oaks Drive, stated that currently her house cannot even be seen
from the street because there is so much greenery. She stated that when everything comes
down, it appears as though her entire side yard would be taken out and she will have no privacy,
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plus a nearby sidewalk. She stated that she also heard that she will be unable to put up a fence
and asked if there would be any kind of tree compensation so she would plant privacy trees or if
there was anything she can do to rebuild that without simply using saplings.
Mayor Labadie stated that each parcel would be handled individually based on whether the trees
are in the right-of-way or on their property.
City Engineer Budde stated that there are several possible scenarios and noted that if the tree is
in your property and not in a drainage and utility easement, and the City has to acquire it, they
would be compensated, most likely with a right of entry agreement or easement. If the tree is in
a drainage and utility easement already, those are kind of the oddball ones where, at this point,
they were not planning on compensation.
Ms. Lee stated that then all of the greenery will be gone and she feels it is noteworthy that this
will really change her property completely, which is frustrating. She stated that she moved here
in 2018 and did not know about this project and only found out about it when a neighbor came by
to tell her about it. She stated that it would have been nice to receive a letter addressed to her or
to the residents who would be affected by this project to outline what was being planned. She
stated that better communication would have been nice.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she is the second resident who brought this up and explained
that she lives over on Birch Bluff Road and their road is up for construction two years from now
and everyone on her street got a postcard saying that it was coming up. She stated that she
thought this was also done in this situation and asked if she was mistaken. She stated that she
feels the Council has really tried to do more to communicate with residents and extend the time
period where residents are informed about upcoming projects. She stated that it is frustrating to
continue to hear residents continue to bring up communication and say they are just learning
about this project. She asked if the trees and shrubbery that are located within the easement
were there when she moved in or if she had planted them. Ms. Lee explained that she had moved
in 2018 so they were already there.
Councilmember Siakel stated that seems to be a problem in the City where people are planting
and encroaching on easements. Ms. Lee stated that it has been reported that about 95 percent
of people did not want the trail and asked if they knew how many people do not want a sidewalk.
She stated that she is an appraiser and has done it since 1998. She stated that in her line of work
she has seen a lot of streets that have faster speeds than Strawberry Lane and they seem to get
along fine without a sidewalk. She stated that it has been said that they want to look more like
Smithtown than have a trail but explained that she does not want to look anything like Smithtown
Road, nor does she think it should look like that. She stated that based on who she has talked
to, she does not know anyone who really wants the sidewalk and if the road is just widened a bit,
there may be a bit more safety, but widening it will also make people drive a lot faster. She stated
that she does not think that Strawberry Lane is such a busy road that it needs to be widened and
include a sidewalk and thinks it is more just a quiet street.
Alan Yelsey, 26335 Peach Circle, stated that priorities are critical, and he does not hear priorities
when residents are talking to the City about most any project. He asked the residents if they
received a card from the City early on in the process that notified them. He asked for a show of
hands of those that received the notification. After a show of hands, Mr. Yelsey stated that he
was happy that most people raised their hands and had received notification. He asked for a
show of hands of which residents have had flooding or water issues where run off from the streets
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or sewers is on your property imposing either a nuisance or damaging the property. He stated
that this project is partly oriented to remove stormwater from the streets and move it to where it
goes, which right now is nowhere since they do not have approval or a project, that is building the
holding ponds at Smithtown. He stated that he is totally opposed to that project because the City
has not responded to the residents questions properly so there is not assurance that project will
meet their needs. He stated that he is also concerned that the project has not responded to
resident concerns about Strawberry Lane or Peach Circle. He stated that one of the things that
has not been covered are what the contingency plan is if Smithtown Pond is not built. He stated
that he is not in support of either project, at this time, until the City can provide assurance that it
will manage those projects effectively.
Yelsey stated that the residents should not want the City to dig up their street if they do not have
a place to put the stormwater. He stated that they also want to put in drinking water for people
who want to have City water rather than wells. He asked for a show of hands from those who do
not already have City water whether they would sign up for City water. He stated that one person
raised their hand. He asked for a show of hands of how many already had City water and
explained that quite a few people raised their hands. He stated that the City should know who, if
any, are interested in hooking up to City water before the project moves forward.
Yelsey stated that the residents had asked that the construction occur when there is no school in
session and expressed concern about safety with having the road dug up for a few months. He
stated that safety is not necessarily just the width of the street and the sidewalks, and noted that
bicyclists would still be at risk at that street and the intersection. The trail is a very dangerous
intersection that is not well done by the City and Three Rivers Park District. Speeding has been
a chronic issue since he has been here and has not been addressed, nor does he see a police
presence or monitoring of speed.
The people in Shorewood Oaks and that entire area are at risk of people cutting through the
neighborhood from Highway 7 to get to Highway 19 or vice versa. Yelsey stated that the entire
situation of cut-throughs and speed is solvable if the City acts diligently and makes it a priority. If
the City wants trees to be a priority, then they should protect as many trees as possible which
should be the engineer’s mandate or have a priority to minimize the damage to everyone’s
property. He stated that it should not have to be a case where the engineer’s report is presented
and then everyone feels like they have to scramble and feel like they are on the defensive to try
to protect their property and their interests. He stated that is not the way a good democracy
should work.
Jolene Scott, 6150 Strawberry Lane, stated that she is one of the ones that if the roadway were
to stay where it is, that property would need to be acquired. A meeting was called between them
and the City Engineer and it was indicated to them that a utility easement may be possible which
is something that they would be more amenable to. She stated that there is a lot of fear and
mistrust from how this project has progressed, at least over the summer. She stated that there
are a lot of questions and asking questions has not always yielded answers so at this point a lot
of this is still unclear to the residents.
Scott stated that she expected to hear a clear-cut answer at the neighborhood meeting as to what
kind of property right they were looking to acquire so she and her husband could be prepared to
think about how that would all work, but that was not finalized. She stated that she feels that the
Council moving this project forward is premature because there are so many things yet to be
looked at. She suggested that the Council look at the graphic that is included on the website for
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this project because it has a pink line that clearly shows the number of trees that will be taken and
goes into people’s property beyond the City’s right-of-way and that has not been shown at
tonight’s meeting. She stated that she feels this is indicative for how this project has been
conveyed to the residents in the area that things are kind of hidden, or masked. Not everything
is clear and not all the information is given to the residents so they can know what is going on and
feel comfortable with what the City is doing. She stated that many residents are confused and
many do not know what is happening. She stated that it is unfortunate because now everyone
is nervous and looks down their street and sees the giant tree canopy that will be lost and
unfortunately, the Council does not get to see that in their packet nor do the people watching from
home. She encouraged everyone to go online and look at the information on the website.
Scott stated that beyond the trees being taken down, the City Engineer has also talked about
potential root damage that could cause even more trees to come down which will further impact
the look and feel of Strawberry Lane. She stated that the natural, woodsy feel of the City gives it
character. She stated that she thinks it needs to be looked at quite a bit further before Council
acts. She stated that she thinks there are many other ways that the drainage issue can be
approached without moving forward with this plan. She noted that any communication she has
received prior to this summer’s craziness has been about drainage and explained that she did not
anticipate a Smithtown Road type of roadway coming down Strawberry Lane with a sidewalk and
large road width and huge curbs. She stated that when she received a postcard that said
something like ‘Strawberry Lane Drainage Project’ on it, she did not anticipate what was ultimately
presented. She stated that there is not clarity nor is it transparent and her hearing about the
scope and breadth of what could happen from her neighbors and not from the City is very
disappointing. She stated that the neighborhood is concerned that what they all love about the
place that they live will be lost.
Scott stated that the things kids in the neighborhood grew up with and the kids from Minnewashta
who ride down the street as part of their bike club have will also be lost. Strawberry Lane will
have a completely different feel and believes the City needs to explore a less invasive property
right. She stated that she would like to keep the road edge as it is and noted that she was told
by the City Engineer that it was a definite possibility and a utility easement would work with a
temporary license to allow for big equipment that needs to be on the property to install some of
the utilities.
Carrie Cochran, 5915 Strawberry Lane, stated that they have lived there almost 34 years and
actually did move their house because they had so much water in their basement when they built
Strawberry Court. She stated that they rebuilt and as part of that had to get an inventory of all
the trees on the property and they were told how many trees they could take and details about
their dimensions. She stated that now it appears as though the City wants to clear cut Strawberry
Lane after they, in their situation, had to go through the expense of naming every single tree and
noted that there are still tags on every single tree, to ensure that they saved the number of trees
they were supposed to. She asked if that same process happens for road construction.
Cochran stated that she does not think they need a sidewalk and noted that she has walked down
the middle of the street almost daily. She has walked dogs on it, her kids have walked to school
on it and it has not been a problem. She stated that no parents let their kids walk down Strawberry
Lane to the elementary school and if they do, their parents are with them. She stated that she
does not think it is a huge issue because almost all the kids ride the bus or their parents drive
them because this is an elementary school, not a high school.
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Lori Sacchet, 6175 Strawberry Lane, stated that her house is probably the most impacted with
almost nineteen feet of her front yard being taken away. She stated that if this goes through, she
would look out her window and will see people passing right by her window. She stated that
without sounding too derogatory, condescending, or critical, she does not feel that true due
diligence was done to this project. She stated that she thinks it was literally handed over to a
company.
Sacchet stated that City Engineer Budde is a very nice guy but feels the City of Shorewood turned
it over and did not do a proper stakeholder analysis. She stated that she has worked for
Honeywell and Medtronic and knows what due diligence means when a project is taken on. She
explained that she had global responsibility in her career and thinks that all the neighbors can
honestly say that they do not feel that their input was ever considered. She stated that they
individually called on the Councilmembers to meet them in the front yards trying to express their
concerns about the lack of insight and understanding that this project has gone forward with and
the impact to the east side not taking a balanced approach. She stated that when she walks in
other neighborhoods, the only one she has seen with a boulevard approach was Lake Lucy Road
and the strip of extra is pure weeds and no one cares for it. She stated that the fact that this was
even considered for their neighborhood concerns her from the get-go, that a design of that level
was even considered because they do not live on the Champs-Elysees. This is not the same as
Smithtown Road and it is not Shorewood Oaks Drive.
Sacchet stated that she would implore the Council to look at a much broader scope. She stated
that Councilmember Siakel’s statement about keeping things simple and only doing acquisition
on three properties still concerns her that this would be the type of thinking that accompanied this
project. She stated that she just paid $6,000 to have her driveway redone and explained that if it
is almost inconceivable that a third of that could be taken away. She stated that there are a lot of
stakeholders sitting in the room and noted that she worked at Minnewashta Elementary School
and walked that street every day.
There is something about this that the residents do not want to see lost. Sacchet stated that to
hear that the approach being considered is so cerebral and pragmatic concerns her when the
proper analysis has not been conducted. She stated that the City should go to the people, do
surveys, do discussions, get the ideas on paper. She stated that she has not seen a spreadsheet
with all the costs laid out, drainage, tree cutting, stump removal. She stated that it is enough to
make them ill and there has not been a cost/benefit analysis at a seriously deep level that shows
the alternative pricing of the different scenarios really look like.
Sacchet stated that Councilmember Gorham’s comments and questions really resonated with
her. She stated that she does not think that the level of scrutiny on this project has been sufficient
for the Council to be able to make an informed decision. She stated that she pays a lot of taxes
in the City and she expects more from the City. She stated the neighbors implore the Council to
really slow down with this project and take all their input into consideration.
Mayor Labadie thanked the residents for coming to the meeting and voicing their concerns. She
stated that City Engineer Budde was looking for two decisions and while the Council has come to
an agreement on the first item - a trail versus a sidewalk, she would like their input. She stated
that she is leaning towards continuing that item but would like to hear from Council first.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he thought to understand some of the cost impacts, City
Engineer Budde would need guidance from the Council as to whether they want to consider the
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additional right-of-way acquisition. City Engineer Budde stated that he felt that he had laid it out
already tonight that the additional right-of-way costs were about $45,000 at a minimum based on
land value.
Councilmember Johnson asked if the satellite images where the construction limits are denoted
should be taken literally. City Engineer Budde stated that they should not be taken literally
because they are somewhat of a moving target until they truly get to about 80 to 90% design. He
stated that what they represent now is taking the roadway and grading it down, tying it into their
yards and then adding five feet as a precaution. He stated that they will do their best to try to
hone those in as the design advances.
Councilmember Callies stated that she feels a bit disturbed by the characterization that the City
is trying not to be forthright. She stated that they do have the information and there has not been
an attempt to try to not convey information to people. She understands that people may not feel
as though they have gotten all the information they want but explained that there was not a
deliberate attempt on the part of the City to obfuscate the situation.
Callies stated that there is a bit of a chicken and egg situation because, until there is a final plan,
you cannot really say how many trees will be removed and what will happen with each particular
property or details on compensation. She stated that she thinks the purpose of this meeting is to
provide some direction she believes there have been changes as a result of the resident
comments up to this point. She asked about the current width of the roadway.
City Engineer Budde stated that it is about 22 feet from edge to edge and the proposal for the
outer most edge from back of curb is just under 28 feet. He stated that the plans right now would
add about six feet of roadway width and another six feet of sidewalk.
Councilmember Callies asked about the reference to 50 feet width. City Engineer Budde
explained that 50 feet is the right-of-way width in a lot of areas and not that it is ideally what the
City would like to have to construct a roadway because it is the City’s standard.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he would like to know more about wider width roadways
making it faster and less safe. He said he wants to understand ways to do a more balanced
approached and noted that he feels that City Engineer Budde has provided a very binary, over-
simplified decision. He stated that he does not feel like the City has done enough exploration of
the alternatives. He stated that it feels like there are blinders on when it comes to seeing the City
standards for widths and he would like to be able to say that every other width has been explored
and all alignment options and have those presented as ways it can be done. He noted that he
thinks the City can be more creative in finding a solution. He stated that part of the anxiety of this
whole thing, for him, is having three days to look at it and knowing that a decision will need to be
made. He stated that he would like to see something more collaborative, such as an open house
to present the designs rather than having the pressure of public speaking and making sure that
they give their point otherwise it could be lost and the vote could go the wrong way. He stated
that this does not feel like a great collaborative process with the residents.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he agrees with Councilmember Gorham’s points surrounding
creativity and noted that one of the things he would like to investigate are if there are things that
can be done creatively to offset the cost of burying the power lines. He stated that he has heard
of other places where this has been done that the power company can add a nominal fee to the
bill to try to offset those costs. He explained that his hope would be that if the power lines are
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buried there may be less impact on the trees. He stated that he is in favor of investigating the
bottom diagram because there needs to be a more equitable solution.
Councilmember Siakel stated that the Council received e-mails today from residents that are in
support of the top option with the six-foot sidewalk. Councilmember Johnson stated that he
believes that is true, but thinks it was north of the trail.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she thinks staff needs some direction and does not understand
the points being made by Councilmembers Gorham and Johnson about being creative. She
stated that she does not see this as the City making a decision that they are going to cram down
people’s throats. She stated that it is impossible to sit here and say that trees will not be lost.
She stated that she would love for the power lines to be buried but doing it is cost prohibitive
unless the residents are willing to assume the assessment. She stated that they tried to do that
on Smithtown Road and it was unbelievably expensive so even though it sounds great she cannot
support it.
Mayor Labadie stated that she agrees with Councilmember Gorham that the City should
investigate more options but not every single one can be investigated because they would end
up at the drawing board for twenty years. She stated that the City has had many road projects
where there have been residents who do not want it and noted that this is a large group that does
not like what is in front of them, which concerns her. She stated that she is a mom and her ‘mom
intuition’ sometimes guides her. When she became mayor, it is almost like the City became one
of her kids and right now, she is not prepared to go forward with either option even though she
knows that is not what City Engineer Budde wants to hear.
Mayor Labadie stated that the City will have one crack at this, and it needs to be done right. She
stated that there has been concern about burying power lines and if the majority of the City has
overhead power lines, she asked how they can justify burying it in one neighborhood and not
another. She stated that would mean moving forward and burying power lines for all the future
projects which would bankrupt the City. She stated that unless there is 100% buy-in from the
residents, she does not think exploring this option is a good use of staff’s time. She stated that
the Council is trying its best to listen but they are not engineers or expert tree people and feels as
representatives for the citizens she thinks that they need to direct staff to find one more creative
alternative.
Councilmember Callies asked what the Council’s goal would be for the other alternative and feels
staff needs some direction. She asked if the creative efforts were supposed to go towards, for
example, tree preservation, cost savings, or something like having everybody have the same
amount of their front yard taken away.
City Engineer Budde stated that he is intrigued by the idea of adding in some curvature so there
could be some safety improvements with that approach. He stated that the overwhelming things
he has heard are safety and trees. He stated that they can quantify safety with traffic engineers.
He stated that the idea of curvature to the road was not something he thought of and suspects
that it would ebb and flow the property impacts and will begin the conversation all over again
about what is equitable, which he does not know how to quantify.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he wants to make sure that street width is explored and curbs
as it relates to drainage, for example, are curbs needed on both sides for the full length of the
roadway. He stated that he would like to know these have been looked at and for the Council to
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be able to defend the design decisions. He stated that he would like to minimize taking trees and
to try to capture as much of the rural character as possible because he thinks that can be
defended. He stated that he does not think capturing the rural character has been part of the
calculus thus far.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she would like to make the point that when Smithtown Road
was referenced, they were referencing the sidewalk and not the street.
City Engineer Budde stated that he thinks he has a pretty decent grasp on what the Council is
asking him to do and explained that he will speak to staff to confirm with what they have heard as
well and has enough to go off of in order to come back. He asked if the option of a six-foot
sidewalk or an eight-foot trail was still on the table as a matrix or should be move forward with a
six-foot sidewalk with anything moving forward. Mayor Labadie and Councilmember Siakel
stated that he should move forward with a six-foot sidewalk option.
Director of Public Works Brown stated that when he first started working at the City 26 years ago,
there was a process which was for the engineer to present a design to the public by saying, “This
is our design.” The feedback that was given was that they did the design and did not even ask
the people their opinion. He stated that they reversed the process and said let’s get input and will
put together some of the framework for something like an open house and have it very loose, so
it is not just presenting a design to people without taking input or addressing their concerns. He
stated that then the frustration rose that the City was not giving any answers, just like tonight, if
he does not know how wide the sidewalk will be, the engineer cannot figure out where it will touch
the ground and impact the properties and do not know how much right-of-way is being impacted
or figure out cost or calculate drainage. He stated that there is a chicken and egg scenario where
the City tries, within the process, to put together a framework that allows feedback and not have
everything locked in so they can allow for change. He stated that he appreciates their continued
patience with the timing of answers as they work through some of the details that changed again
tonight with the feedback.
Councilmember Siakel asked for clarification of what the next step will be so nobody is confused.
Mayor Labadie asked City Engineer Budde how soon he would be able to get information back
before the Council and whether he felt it should be done at a regular meeting or at an Open
House. City Engineer Budde stated that he would prefer it at a Council meeting so there is clear
direction and noted that getting the information out to people so they have enough time to absorb
it will be very worthwhile. He stated that he thinks he may be able to have more information for
the Council by their second meeting in August, but it is probably more likely for the first meeting
in September.
Mayor Labadie encouraged residents to check the City website for the agenda and details of the
meeting. She thanked everyone for being respectful this evening as they gave their feedback.
Mayor Labadie recessed the meeting at 10:19 p.m. and reconvened at 10:25 p.m.
B. Approve Plans and Specifications and Authorize Advertisement for Bids for
Covington Road Watermain Improvement
City Engineer Budde explained that the watermain on Covington Road has had a break in the
recent past and it was found that the pipe was in tough shape and should be replaced. He stated
that the hope is to get this out for bids and be able to construct this project this fall before the
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winter months with the mill and overlay happening most likely next spring. He stated that this
project is not in the CIP and is more of a mild emergency type situation. The construction costs
are estimated to be around $392,000 with a total project cost at $490,000 including design and
construction.
Johnson moved, Labadie seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-085, “A Resolution
Approving Plans and Specifications and Authorize Advertisement of Bids for the
Covington Road Watermain Improvement Project. City Project 21-07” All in favor. Motion
passed.
C. Reject Bids for Lift Stations 7 and 10 Rehabilitation Project
City Engineer Budde noted that bids for this project were opened on July 6, 2021, and came back
about 48 percent higher than the engineer’s estimate. He stated that many contractors are very
busy right now and COVID things end up being a remnant on these types of projects, so staff is
recommending rejecting these bids and then re-bid the project during the winter months and
possibly add in a third lift station with one that is slated in the City’s CIP for 2022.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he is a bit worried because three bids came in so close
together and asked if he felt the issue was mostly material costs. Public Works Director Brown
stated that he feels it is fifty-fifty in that materials costs are playing a role in the pricing, but also
the fact that everyone is already busy with fall work and due to the market conditions. He stated
that there is nothing urgent to this project, so he does not think it will hurt to try to get the most
favorable bidding condition later.
Gorham moved, Johnson seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-086, “A Resolution
Rejecting Bids for the Lift Stations 7 and 10 Rehabilitation Project. City Project 20-12” All
in favor. Motion passed.
9. GENERAL/NEW BUSINESS
A. Urban Farm Animal Ordinance Discussion
Planning Director Darling stated that at the June 28, 2021 City Council meeting the Council
reviewed general information on how other cities regulated farm animals and directed staff to draft
amendments to the ordinance to allow for the five changes as discussed. Staff recommends
forwarding this to the Planning Commission to hold a public hearing on September 7, 2021.
Councilmember Callies asked for clarification that they will have to pay an initial fee, but not a
renewal fee. Planning Director Darling stated that was what the Council had directed.
Mayor Labadie asked about regulation #2 that talks about the animal shelter needing to be located
closer to the animal owner’s home than to a home on an abutting property. She asked what would
happen to existing permit holders and existing shelters. Planning Director Darling stated that that
would have to be addressed with their renewal.
Councilmember Callies stated that she thinks there should be a renewal fee. Councilmember
Gorham stated that he thinks the Council had directed for there to be no renewal fee when they
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were thinking the permit would be renewed annually and now staff is recommending a five-year
term for the permit. He asked how much work it is for staff and asked what is currently charged.
Planning Director Darling stated that the City currently charges $50 which covers the cost of the
inspection and about $5.00 towards the costs of administering the permit. Councilmember Callies
stated that she thinks a fee will ensure that the person who has the animals is taking it seriously.
Councilmember Siakel asked what she felt the fee should be. Councilmember Callies suggested
that it be the same amount.
Labadie moved, Johnson seconded, Directing staff to send this item to the Planning
Commission for the public hearing process to consider an Ordinance Approving an
Amendment to Shorewood City Code Chapter 705 (Farm and Other Animals).
The Council discussed ways to handle compliance for the existing permit holders.
All in favor. Motion passed.
10. STAFF AND COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Administrator and Staff
1. Second Quarter 2021 General Fund Report
Finance Director Rigdon gave a brief overview of the Second Quarter 2021 General Fund Report
and noted that building permits were at about 125% of the budget through June. He stated the
City is on target with the expenditures.
2. Second Quarter 2021 Investment Report
Finance Director Rigdon stated that this is also an informational item and no action needs to be
taken. He gave a brief overview of the Second Quarter 2021 Investment Report and noted that
the City is in compliance with its diversification requirements in the policy. He noted that
segregation of investments is similar to the prior period.
Other
Public Works Director Brown stated that a few weeks ago they had an incident at their southeast
area water plant located in Silverwood Park. There was a mechanical failure and some actions
of some of the younger members of their department resulted in the flooding of the lower level of
the filter plant. They have gone through an investigation and consulted with the League of
Minnesota Cities to review the situation. He stated that he is estimating the damages to be
between $14,000 to $18,000. He stated that they have made sure to provide additional training
to the individuals involved and are hopeful that the things they have put in place will ensure that
this type of thing will not happen again.
Finance Director Rigdon noted that the City’s bond sale goes final on July 28, 2021 and funds will
be received the same day.
City Engineer Budde stated that the Glen/Amlee/Manitou project is going very well and on
schedule with curbing being poured next week. The Mill and Overlay project is continuing forward
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and a bit behind on the planned schedule somewhat due to coordination with Centerpoint Energy.
He gave an overview on the Smithtown Pond project related to the Army Corps of Engineer and
ways to reduce the permitting process to three months and is hoping that this will get the project
back on pace.
Planning Director Darling stated that Music in the Park was a success with about 250 people in
attendance. She stated staff has invited some contractors to begin using the new permit software
and it will probably be open to the public within a few weeks.
City Attorney Keane stated that the Council was laid bare for a great deal of criticism from the
public suggesting that there is an autocratic atmosphere of suppression of free speech and anti-
democratic policies in how the City conducts its hearings and Matters from the Floor. He stated
that the City is not under any obligation to hold public forum and noted that a decade ago it was
the exception when a community had an open forum. He stated that the City’s Open Forum is
very open and more open than most. He stated that the respect that this Council shows to
suspend its routine business to allow the public to speak on any subject is commendable. He
gave the example of the City where he lives and explained that the Open Forum is on a hard clock
and it could be in seconds not minutes. He stated that during Zoom time, they just turned off their
window when their time was up and in more conventional times they have an alarm that goes off.
He stated that he does not think the Council has anything to apologize for in terms of the openness
and their acceptance of public dialogue.
B. Mayor and City Council
11. ADJOURN
Johnson moved, Gorham seconded, Adjourning the City Council Regular Meeting of July
26, 2021, at 10:54 P.M. All in favor. Motion passed.
ATTEST:
Jennifer Labadie, Mayor
Sandie Thone, City Clerk
#2 B
MEETING TYPE
Regular Meeting
City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
Title / Subject: Verified Claims
Meeting Date: August 9, 2021
Prepared by: Michelle Nguyen, Senior Accountant
Greg Lerud, City Administrator
Joe Rigdon, Finance Director
Attachments: Claims lists
Policy Consideration:
Should the attached claims against the City of Shorewood be paid?
Background:
Claims for council authorization.
66944-66977 & ACH 434,041.89
Total Claims $434,041.89
We have also included a payroll summary for the payroll period ending August 1, 2021.
Financial or Budget Considerations:
These expenditures are reasonable and necessary to provide services to our residents and funds are
budgeted and available for these purposes.
Options:
The City Council may accept the staff recommendation to pay these claims or may reject any
expenditure it deems not in the best interest of the city.
Recommendation / Action Requested:
Staff recommends approval of the claims list as presented.
Next Steps and Timelines:
Checks will be distributed following approval.
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City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
2C
Title/Subject: LMCIT Insurance Renewal
Meeting Date: August 9, 2021
MEETING
Prepared By: Greg Lerud, City Administrator
TYPE
REGULAR
Background: The City Council is required by the League of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust
(LMCIT) to annually decide if they wish to waive or not waive the monetary limits on municipal tort
liability insurance established by Minnesota Statute 466.04. The current statutory liability limits
are $500,000 per claimant and $1,500,000 per occurrence. The City Council must also make a
separate decision whether or not to purchase additional liability insurance from the LMCIT.
Financial or Budget Considerations: Traditionally the city has not waived liability limits
and purchased additional liability insurance. The proposed 2021 budget is being prepared as if
that practice continues.
Options: The City Council can do the following:
1. Not waive the statutory tort limits and purchase excess liability insurance coverage.
2. Waive the statutory limits and not purchase excess liability insurance coverage.
3. Waive the statutory limits and purchase excess liability insurance coverage.
Recommended Action: Staff recommends that the City Council pass a motion to not waive
statutory tort limits and to purchase excess liability insurance coverage.
Next Steps and Timeline: Staff is working through the insurance renewal process for the
November 1 renewal date.
Mission Statement: The City of Shorewood is committed to providing residents quality public
services, a healthy environment, a variety of attractive amenities, a sustainable tax base, and
sound financial management through effective, efficient, and visionary leadership. Page 1
City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
2D
Title/Subject: Calling for Special Meeting For Retreat
Meeting Date: August 9, 2021
MEETING
Prepared By: Greg Lerud, City Administrator
TYPE
REGULAR
Attachments: Resolution
Background: The annual retreat will return in 2020 after a year off due to COVID. The
date is November 30 and the meeting will take place at the Emergency Operations
Center at the Shorewood Public Safety building.
Recommended Action: Staff recommends that the council pass the attached
Resolution by simple majority to call for a special meeting to be held on November 30 to
conduct the council-staff retreat.
Next Steps and Timeline: Upon passage staff will provide the required notice.
Mission Statement: The City of Shorewood is committed to providing residents quality public
services, a healthy environment, a variety of attractive amenities, a sustainable tax base, and
sound financial management through effective, efficient, and visionary leadership. Page 1
RESOLUTION 2021-083
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
STATE OF MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO HOLD THE
CITY COUNCIL-STAFF RETREAT
BE IT RESOLVED by the Shorewood City Council that a Special Meeting of the Council
hereby be held on November 30, 2021, beginning at 9:00 a.m. for the purpose of holding the
City Council – staff retreat. The meeting will be held in the Emergency Operations Center room
at the Shorewood Public Safety building.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the City Clerk is hereby directed to publish and post the legal
notice for the meeting.
th
Adopted this 9 day of August, 2021.
__________________________
Jennifer Labadie, Mayor
Attest:
___________________________
Sandie Thone, City Clerk
2E
MEETING
TYPE
Regular
Meeting
City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
Title/Subject: Accept Agreement for Mary Lake Outlet Project,
City Project 19-09
Meeting Date: Monday, August 9, 2021
Prepared by: Andrew Budde, City Engineer
Reviewed by: Larry Brown, Director of Public Works
Attachments: Agreement, Resolution
Background: The City of Excelsior provided a conditional municipal consent for the
project that required a hold harmless agreement with the property owner at 23445
County Road 19 and a maintenance agreement with Shorewood. The maintenance
agreement was unintentionally omitted in routing for signatures and was not included in
the agenda item in April 2021 that approved all of the other agreements and easements
for this project.
Financial Considerations: None.
Recommendation/Action Requested: Staff recommends authorization to execute final
maintenance agreement with the City of Excelsior.
Mission Statement: The City of Shorewood is committed to providing residents quality public
services, a healthy environment, a variety of attractive amenities, a sustainable tax base, and
sound financial management through effective, efficient, and visionary leadership. Page 1
STORM SEWER OUTLET MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT
by and between
The City of Shorewood Excelsior
relating to an outlet at 23445 Co Rd No 19
RECITALS
WHEREAS, this Agreement is made this day of ___________, 2021, by and between the City of
and
WHEREAS, this Agreement concerns the real property located south and east of the parcel with an
address of 23445 Co Rd No 19, generally known as Studer Pond, City of Excelsior, County of
Hennepin, State of Minnesota, legally described in the attached Exhibit A ; and
WHEREAS, Excelsior adopted a Resolution No. 2020-58 on September 21, 2020, which provided
Municipal Consent by the City of Excelsior to the City of Shorewood to construct the Mary Lake Outlet
Project as presented by the City of Shorewood; and
WHEREAS, Excelsior conditionally approved the project proposed by Shorewood subject to the
watershed permitting variance requirements relating to flood freeboard and an increase to the 100-year
high water elevation to Studer Pond; and
WHEREAS,
request for a variance from
increases in flood stage of a downstream water body. Namely, the Shorewood proposal to increase the
100-year high water elevation to Studer Pond by 0.07 feet through the construction of a new outlet to
Mary Lake to route to Studer Pond; and
WHEREAS, Resolution 2020-58 provided that the City of Shorewood is responsible for the
maintenance of the existing storm sewer outlet pipe to Studer Pond from Wood Duck Circle, as well
as the maintenance of the Studer Pond outlet control structure and pond outlet pipe installed as part of
the Mary Lake Outlet Project; Shorewood City Project No: 19-09..
AGREEMENT
NOW, THEREFORE, on the basis of the promises and the mutual covenants and agreements set forth
in this Agreement, the parties agree as follows:
1. The City of Shorewood may construct the Mary Lake Outlet Project in accordance to
Municipal Consent provided by Excelsior, subject to the MCWD permitting requirements
set forth in MCWD Permit 20-325.
2. This Agreement in no way alters the requirement that Shorewood, their successors,
heirs, and assigns, comply with the Shorewood City Code, laws, rules, regulations, or
other agreements with the City of Shorewood.
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3. Shorewood, their heirs, successors, and assigns, agree to maintain the existing storm
sewer outlet pipe to Studer Pond from Wood Duck Circle, as well as maintenance of
the Studer Pond outlet control structure and pond outlet pipe installed as part of the
Mary Lake Outlet Project; Shorewood City Project No: 19-09.
4. This Agreement shall run with the land and shall be recorded against the title to the
Subject Property.
5. This Agreement may only be terminated, modified, or amended with the written
consent of both parties.
IN WITNESS HEREOF, the parties have executed this Agreement as of the day and year first written
above.
CITY OF EXCELSIOR
Mayor Todd R. Carlson
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
) ss .
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN )
The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this ___ day of ____________, 2021, by
Mayor Todd R. Carlson.
Notary Public
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CITY OF EXCELSIOR
City Manager Kristi Luger
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
) ss .
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN )
The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this ____ day of __________, 2021, by
City Manager Kristi Luger.
Notary Public
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
Mayor Jennifer Labadie
City Administrator, Greg Lerud
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
) ss .
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN )
The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this ___ day of ____________, 2021, by
Mayor Jennifer Labadie and City Administrator Greg Lerud.
Notary Public
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION 21-084
A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AGREEMENT
FOR THE MARY LAKE OUTLET PROJECT
CITY PROJECT 19-09
WHEREAS, Mary Lake that does not have a natural drainage outlet and staff has
reviewed various options to allow for a gravity flow outlet; and
WHEREAS, the recommended solution would increase the water level of Studer Pond
located in the City of Excelsior and would require a variance from the Minnehaha Creek
Watershed District, and
WHEREAS, the current Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) identifies improvements to
provide an outlet from a land locked Mary Lake in 2020; and
WHEREAS, the city has awarded the construction contract to G.F. Jedlicki; and
WHEREAS, staff has submitted the necessary permitting information to the required
agencies and the City of Excelsior, and has acquired conditional approvals by both the
Minnehaha Creek Watershed District and the City of Excelsior; and
WHEREAS, the City of Excelsior is requiring a Maintenance Agreement stating that the
City of Shorewood will be responsible for the maintenance of the storm sewer pipe from
Wood Duck Circle to Studer Pond and also the newly installed outlet control structure
and pipe that controls the outlet of water from Studer Pond.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: by the City Council of the City of Shorewood
hereby approve the final maintenance agreement with the City of Excelsior and
authorize the Mayor and Clerk to execute final agreements.
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ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SHOREWOOD this 9 day of August
2021.
__________________________
Jennifer Labadie, Mayor
Attest:
___________________________
Sandie Thone, City Clerk
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JULY 27, 2021 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Hirner convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Hirner, Commissioners Schmid, Tauer, and Heinz; City
Council Liaison Labadie; Parks and Recreation Director Grout;
Planning Director Darling
Absent: Commissioner Gallivan
B. Review Agenda
Heinz moved to approve the agenda as written. Tauer seconded the motion. Motion carried
4-0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of April 13, 2021
Schmid moved to approve the minutes of the April 13, 2021 meeting as written. Tauer
seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
B. Park Commission Park Tour Minutes from May 11, 2021
Schmid moved to approve the minutes of the May 11, 2021 meeting as written. Tauer
seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
C. Park Commission Park Tour Minutes from June 8, 2021
Heinz moved to approve the minutes of the June 8, 2021 meeting as written. Tauer seconded
the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. NEW BUSINESS
A. Review of Park Tours
Planning Director Darling gave a presentation that explained the trail options for Freeman Park.
She stated that staff has a recommendation for Option #3 because it seems to provide more
flexibility. She stated even though that is their recommendation, they would acknowledge that it
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does not showcase the active portions of the park, nor does it go through the woods, which is
very pretty.
Chair Hirner asked if it was certain that they will construct the bridge through Option #2.
Planning Director Darling stated that they will, however, the responsibility for maintenance and
replacement would fall to the City.
Commissioner Heinz noted that he walks his puppy here and has tried to observe the usage of
the park and parking habits. He stated that he would also support Option #3 because it would
have the least impact on the park , the wooded areas, and will be less costly.
Commissioner Tauer shared her concerns about Option #1 due to the speed of the bicycle traffic
and stated that she would agree that Option #3 is the best option.
Chair Hirner stated that he also has concerns about the first two options and would support Option
#3.
The Commission discussed City park signage separate from the Three Rivers Park District.
Hirner moved to recommend approval of the Option #3 for the Three Rivers Park District
trail, that the lower parking lot has parking spaces dedicated to the trailhead, that signage
when entering Freeman Park indicate the parking situation, that the wayfinding signage
directing people be included, that information on the trailhead be added to the City website,
and that the kiosk be located where it is plainly visible. Tauer seconded the motion.
Motion carried 4-0.
Planning Director Darling suggested that Commissioner Heinz present to the Council on August
9, 2021.
Chair Hirner suggested that other Commissioners may also want to attend since this is such a big
recommendation.
Hirner moved to recommend that for Option #3, that the City does not lose the soccer field
or that the trail have any impact to the ballfield as part of the project. Tauer seconded the
motion. Motion carried 4-0.
The Commission talked about other items related to the Park tour.
Chair Hirner stated that for a future agenda, he would like to discuss whether there is something
the Commission or City can do to encourage and draw senior citizen and others into the parks.
The Commission discussed possible senior programming options and ways to tap into the senior
residents of the City.
Chair Hirner asked that this item be placed on next month’s agenda.
Planning Director Darling noted that, as a group, the Commission did not visit Crescent Beach,
Gideon Glen, Minnetonka Country Club open space, or the Christmas Lake boat landing. She
asked if any of the Commission members had comments from their personal visits to those sites.
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Commissioner Tauer explained that she had been instructed by friends who live in the Minnetonka
Country Club area to pass along that they would love trash cans along the walking route.
Planning Director Darling gave a brief overview of the proposal staff will be bringing next month
about some improvements to the Christmas Lake boat landing area to address some of the
concerns from the HOA and nearby residents.
Chair Hirner suggested that the Commission make an effort to go out to the Christmas Lake boat
landing area prior to the next meeting.
B. Review Quote for Extension of Fence at Southshore Community Park
Community Gardens
Park and Recreation Director Grout gave an overview of the quote from Dakota Fencing for the
extension of the fencing at Southshore Community Park Community Gardens.
Chair Hirner asked when the City may need to make a decision about adding another spigot for
watering, rather than just adding more hose.
Park and Recreation Director Grout stated that she will check with the Public Works Department
to see about adding another spigot.
Planning Director Darling stated that it is on a water line, so she assumes they probably could
add a spigot. She stated that she will also need to ask if there would be enough pressure to add
another spigot.
Heinz moved to recommend approval of the quote from Dakota Fencing for extension of
the fence at Southshore Community Park Community Gardens. Tauer seconded the
motion. Motion carried 4-0.
5. OLD BUSINESS
Commissioner Heinz stated that he thought the Badger Park Grand Opening was well done and
congratulated staff for how well the event went.
Planning Director Darling noted that Joey Nova’s sold out of everything that they had planned for
the event and actually sold more pizza in Badger Park that evening than they did in the restaurant.
She stated that the balloon lady was busy the entire time and worked steadily throughout the
event, with a line, until 30 minutes after the event closed. She commended Park and Recreation
Director Grout for her work on this event because it turned out lovely. She stated that
Communications Director Julie Moore also did a nice job getting the word out about the Grand
Opening.
Commissioner Heinz stated that there was also a good crowd for the Music in the Park event.
Park and Recreation Director Grout stated that she thinks there were around 200 people and if
so, would be the largest crowd they have ever had for Music in the Park.
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6. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS / UPDATES
A. City Council
Planning Director Darling gave an overview of the July 26, 2021 City Council meeting.
B. Staff
1. Update on Hennepin County Youth Sports Grant
Park and Recreation Director Grout explained that the City was awarded $25,000 for Silverwood
Park from Hennepin County Youth Sports.
2. Next Month’s Agenda
Planning Director Darling asked if there was anything else that the Commission would like to
see on next month’s agenda, besides the things already mentioned tonight.
3. September Park Meeting
Planning Director Darling noted that staff is recommending that the September Parks
Commission meeting be cancelled.
7. ADJOURN
Heinz moved to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of July 27, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
Tauer seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
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MEETING TYPE
Regular Meeting
City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
Title / Subject: Three Rivers LRT Trailhead Connection in Freeman Park
Location: 6000 Eureka Road
Meeting Date: August 9, 2021
Prepared by: Marie Darling, Planning Director
Attachments: Graphic Showing 3 Trail Connection Options
Park Commission memorandum from May 11, 2021
Background: Three Rivers approached the City with the potential to add an official trailhead
connection to the Lake Minnetonka LRT. During their annual park tour, the Park Commission
met with staff from the Three Rivers Park District to explore three different trail connections from
the City’s parking area to the LRT at Freeman Park.
The Park District proposes to pay for the initial trail connection, with the City responsible to
maintain the trail in the future. In exchange for the construction of the trail to their standard,
Three Rivers would like to be able to place their wayfinding signage with branding for a
consistent look and would require 10 parking spaces, a few of which would be reserved for the
trail users.
At their July 13, 2021 meeting, the Park Commission reviewed the three options and
recommends option 3 with several conditions, including:
Locate wayfinding signage in a visible location near the parking lot
Locate the required trailhead parking spaces in the southerly parking area, not
the lot closest to the ball fields
Add “City of Shorewood” to the existing sign at the LRT/Freeman Park
connection so that it is clear that Freeman Park is a Shorewood Park
Add trailhead information on City Park website
Construct the trail without impact to either the soccer field or ballfield
Recommendation / Action Requested:
Staff and the Park Commission recommend the City Council select Option 3 as the appropriate
Trailhead connection and authorize staff to begin discussing an agreement with Three Rivers
Park District.
Approval requires a simple majority.
Mission Statement: The City of Shorewood is committed to providing residents quality public services, a
healthy environment, a variety of attractive amenities, a sustainable tax base, and sound financial
management through effective, efficient, and visionary leadership.
City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
6C
Title/Subject: Authorize Purchase of Community Garden Fence at
South Shore Park
MEETING
Meeting Date: August 9, 2021
TYPE
Regular
Prepared by: Twila Grout, Park and Rec Director
Meeting
Reviewed by: Marie Darling, Planning Director
Attachment: Resolution
Memo from Park Commission Meeting
Quote from Dakota Unlimited
Background: Last year during the park tours the Park Commissioners recommended
that the community garden at the South Shore Community Park be expanded. This
past spring an additional 9 garden plots were added informally outside the existing
chainlink fence. There is now a total of 30 garden plots and all the new plots have
gardeners.
In the past when the gardens have been expanded informally, the city has extended the
chainlink fencing around the new plots. Staff reached out to Dakota Unlimited for a
quote to extend the fencing around the new garden plots. The quote for this work to be
done is $3,705. The extension of the fence will not be installed until fall after the
gardening season.
The Park Commissioners reviewed the quote from Dakota Unlimited at their July 27
meeting and unanimously recommended the installation of the extension of fencing at
the South Shore Community Park gardens.
Action Requested: Staff and the Park Commission recommend the City Council
approve the quote from Dakota Unlimited for extension of the fence at the South Shore
Community Park gardens.
Approval requires a simple majority.
Mission Statement: The City of Shorewood is committed to providing residents quality public
services, a healthy environment, a variety of attractive amenities, a sustainable tax base, and
sound financial management through effective, efficient, and visionary leadership.
RESOLUTION NO. 21-087
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF FENCING AND ACCEPTING A
QUOTE AT SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY PARK
WHEREAS, the City of Shorewood (“City”) authorize the installation for extension of the
fencing at the South Shore Community Park gardens; and
WHEREAS, the cost to the City would be $3,705 for extension of the fencing; and
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED that the City Council of the City of Shorewood
hereby accepts the quote from Dakota Unlimited to install the fencing around the
extension of the community gardens at South Shore Community Park.
ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SHOREWOOD this 9th day of
August, 2021.
___________________________
Jennifer Labadie, Mayor
ATTEST:
________________________________
Sandie Thone, City Clerk
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CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout, Park & Rec Director
Meeting Date: July 13, 2021
Re: Review Quote for Extension of Fence at Southshore Community Park
Community Gardens
Attachment: Map
This past spring nine garden plots were added to the community garden. Due to expanding the
gardens, the fence will need to be extended.
Staff met with Dakota Fencing and they provided a quote to extend the fencing (Dakota
Fencing is the company that installed the current fencing). The total cost to install the fence is
$3,705. They will be able to install the fence in early spring as they are booked through 2021.
They did mention that if an opening becomes available in the fall they would see if they could
install the fencing then.
Dakota Fencing mentioned if there was a chance that we would be extending the gardens that
we might want to look at it now as it would be cost effective to do all the fencing now.
Looking at the garden site (see attached map), it may be hard to extend the gardens more to the
west, due to shade and the trees along the north side of the gardens. There are now 30 plots at
this site.
This year all garden requests were filled at the Southshore Community Park.
City of Shorewood Council Meeting Item
9A
Title/Subject: Repealing Chapter 110 of City Code, Domestic
Partnership Registry
Meeting Date: August 9, 2021
MEETING
Prepared By: Greg Lerud, City Administrator
TYPE
REGULAR
Reviewed By: Tim Keane, City Attorney
Attachments: Proposed Ordinance
Background: As part of the city’s ongoing effort to review and update the Municipal
Code, staff has reviewed Chapter 110 of the Code. In 2011, the City Council passed
Ordinance No. 486, which created a domestic partnership registry. Shorewood was one
of a handful of cities that passed an ordinance to provide a way to recognize partners
who were in committed relationships but were not married. Registering allowed couples
access to benefits that were only available to couples who were recognized as being
married.
Minnesota state law has changed since 2011, as have insurance rules and regulations,
rendering the benefits of Ordinance 486 obsolete. A certificate from the city is no longer
needed to access or preserve the benefits that were available to only married couples.
In addition, only three couples have registered with the city, the last one being in 2013,
which provides evidence that this section of code once served its purpose, but it is no
longer needed. Those who have already registered will not have their registration
cancelled.
This proposed Ordinance to repeal has been duly noticed as required by law.
Financial or Budget Considerations: None
Options: Keep the current code section or pass the ordinance repealing Chapter 110
of the city code.
Recommended Action: The city continues its years-long process of reviewing the city
code and eliminating code sections that are no longer relevant, or updating sections as
needed. Staff recommends passage of Ordinance No. 579 by simple majority.
Next Steps and Timeline: If the council approves the ordinance, staff will publish as
required.
Mission Statement: The City of Shorewood is committed to providing residents quality public
services, a healthy environment, a variety of attractive amenities, a sustainable tax base, and
sound financial management through effective, efficient, and visionary leadership. Page 1
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
STATE OF MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE 580
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING SHOREWOOD CITY CODE
CHAPTER 110, DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP REGISTRY
Section 1. This Ordinance repeals, in its entirety, Chapter 110 of the Municipal Code.
Section 2. Effective Date. This Ordinance shall take effect upon passage and
publication in the City's official newspaper.
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ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL of the City of Shorewood, Minnesota, this 9 day
of August, 2021.
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Jennifer Labadie, Mayor
ATTEST:
________________________
Sandie Thone, City Clerk
Ordinance Page 1