02-07-2023 Planning Comm Agenda Packet
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY FEBRUARY 7, 2023 7:00 P.M.
A G E N D A
CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL / (LIAISON) SCHEDULE
EGGENBERGER () _ _
HOLKER () ______
VICE-CHAIR RIEDEL (FEB) ______
HUSKINS () ______
COUNCIL LIAISON MADDY (JAN-JUNE)
COUNCIL LIAISON CALLIES (JULY-DEC)
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 17, 2023
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
(This portion of the meeting allows members of the public the opportunity to bring up items that are
not on the agenda. Each speaker has a maximum of three minutes to present their topic. Multiple
speakers may not bring up the same points. No decisions would be made on the topic at the
meeting except that the item may be referred to staff for more information or the City Council.)
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A) Conditional Use Permit for a collocation of antennas on existing tower
Applicant: SMJ International, LLC (T-Mobile)
Location: 24283 Smithtown Road
5. OTHER BUSINESS
A) Variance to setback to OHWL on Silver Lake
Applicant: Gardner Building and Remodeling
Location: 19960 Sweetwater Curve
B) Variance to front and side setbacks
Applicant: Todd Nelson
Location: 20980 Ivy Lane
6. REPORTS
A) Council Meeting Report
B) Draft Next Meeting Agenda
7. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2023 7:00 P.M.
DRAFT MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chair Riedel called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Vice-Chair Riedel; Commissioners Eggenberger, Huskins and Holker; City
Administrator Nevinski, and Finance Director Rigdon
Absent: None
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Vice-Chair Riedel noted that there had been a request to move item 4.C. earlier in the agenda.
Eggenberger moved, Huskins seconded, approved moving item 4.C. to become 4.A., and
renumbering the remainder of the agenda accordingly. Motion passed 4/0.
Holker moved, Huskins seconded, approving the agenda for January 17, 2022, as
amended. Motion passed 4/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 6, 2022
Huskins moved, Holker seconded, approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
of December 6, 2022, as presented. Motion passed 4/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR - NONE
4. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Capital Improvements Program Review
Applicant: City of Shorewood
Location: City-wide
City Administrator Nevinski noted that looking at the CIP is something that is relatively new to the
Planning Commission and had not been done before. He stated that staff recently discovered
that it is part of State statute and the City Code that the Planning Commission will review the
annual budget to verify that there is alignment with the CIP and the Comprehensive Plan.
Finance Director Rigdon noted that the Planning Commissions’ role in this review is not to analyze
every project, but to conduct a general review of the overall implementation of the Comprehensive
Plan. He gave a brief summary of the various funds and their purpose, including: Fund 201
(Community and Event Center); Fund 402 (Park Capital Improvement Fund); Fund 403
(Equipment Replacement Fund); Fund 404 (Street Reconstruction Fund); Fund 405 (Municipal
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State Aid Street Construction Fund); Fund 406 (Trails); Fund 601 (Water); Fund 611 (Sanitary
Sewer); and Fund 631 (Stormwater Management Fund). He explained that staff was
recommending that the Planning Commission find that the CIP is generally consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan
Commissioner Holker noted that she was not aware that this was the first time the Planning
Commission had taken a look at this and explained that if she looks at it with a broad brush, it
seems like it falls within the plan for the City.
Vice-Chair Riedel stated that this is the first time the Planning Commission was being asked to
look at this and much of it is clearly not within the purview of the Planning Commission. He stated
that he thinks the whole Commission is wondering a bit about what sort of guidance they are
supposed to provide in this situation.
Commissioner Eggenberger stated that if the Planning Commission was just being asked to take
a general look and not analyze each project, he would say that this clears that hurdle. He stated
that he would recommend that the Commission follow the staff recommendation and recommend
approval.
Commissioner Huskins explained that what was missing for him was the fundamental question
that was before them of whether what has been presented is consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan. He stated that it would have been very helpful to see the breakdown in order to see if the
money was being put into ‘buckets’ like they are claiming in the Comprehensive Plan. He asked
how staff felt about the concordance of this information with the Comprehensive Plan.
City Administrator Nevinski stated that he thinks the Commission has raised some good questions
and agreed that this was something that other Planning Commissions have struggled with
because it does get into the details in a way that a Planning Commission normally does not. He
explained that many times people think of Comprehensive Plans as being land use documents,
which they are, but as the Met Council looks at it, they are also thinking about things like sanitary
sewer, water supply, transportation, housing plans, and economic development. He noted that
he has only been with the City for 3 weeks and had not been able to spend much time reviewing
the Comprehensive Plan yet, but will make sure he communicates the questions that have been
raised to Planning Director Darling to help with next year’s review.
Commissioner Huskins explained that what was driving his question was that several years ago
when the community across the street at the Country Club was being developed, there was a
very strong concern about its impact on traffic. He stated that at the time, he served on a Citizens
Traffic Study Committee and they brainstormed ideas for how they thought the City might consider
handling the additional traffic. He explained that out of all the recommendations that were put
forward, the only one implemented by the City did was the flashing stoplights on the corner of
Country Club Road and Linden Drive. He stated that his recollection was that the City had claimed
that there wasn’t money to fund any of the other abatement recommendations. He stated that if
something like that were to occur again, where there were capital needs, he would like to know
where they would appear in these breakdowns and documents, for example, Streets or Public
Works.
Commissioner Holker stated that she has spent some time reviewing the Comprehensive Plan,
but explained that what it does not have is when they are looking at the City budget, how they can
align rough percentages of the budget into the various categories of the Comprehensive Plan.
She stated that the Comprehensive Plan talks about Met Council and reviewing this gives her no
visibility, for example, on whether the City is trying to go after something like lower priced housing.
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She explained that she found tying this document and information to the Comprehensive Plan
difficult.
Vice-Chair Riedel stated that he thinks those are excellent points and would suggest for next year
that many of the costs could be divided out costs into the ones that have zero discretionary
components and those that would be discretionary for decisions made by the City. He stated that
in order to line those up, he would think the Planning Commission would need to do some advance
work to discuss priorities in the various categories and gave the example of traffic. He noted that
he felt traffic was a good example because in the years that he has served on the Commission,
he was not sure how many cases that come before them pertain to traffic, but when it comes to
commercial development of any kind, it is perennial and is a concern that bubbles to the top. He
stated that would a great example in that, if the Planning Commission felt that this was an area of
deficiency in the City planning, that the Planning Commission could then provide guidance that
there should be more spent on long term improvements to traffic flow patterns and traffic safety.
He explained that could be the kind of recommendation that the Planning Commission could give
if they had a bit more preparation time. He asked that staff make a note for next year on how to
structure the conversation and prepare the Planning Commission prior to the discussion next
year.
Commissioner Huskins clarified that it was not that he necessarily thought that he had any insight
in order to challenge how the City plans on distributing the money or which projects have bubbled
up to the top, but he just goes back to the thought that he cannot say if this aligns with the
Comprehensive Plan without some assistance and explanation on why things are the way they
are.
Commissioner Eggenberger stated that in reading through the analysis, for example, the goals
and objectives, they all sound great, but he was not sure how to tie those to the individual numbers
because it did not mean anything to him, which he found frustrating.
Eggenberger moved, Holker seconded, Recommending Approval of the 2023-2032 CIP
Based on the Finding that it is Generally Consistent with, Implements, and/or the Projects
are Contemplated by the City’s Comprehensive Plan and further that the Vice-Chair of the
Planning Commission may execute and forward this finding to the City Council. Motion
passed 4/0.
Vice-Chair Riedel noted that he would be leaving the Planning Commission soon but stated that
the Planning Commission tends to be ‘reactive’, however, he thinks the Commission would
actually appreciate doing more long term planning and this may be an opportunity for them to do
that at least once a year.
B. Variance to Rear Yard Setback (Shed)
Applicant: Gene German and Sara Lassila
Location: 5925 Eureka Road
City Administrator Nevinski explained that this item was initially before the Planning Commission
on December 6, 2022 as a request for a shed to be located 3 feet from the rear and side property
lines. He stated that the consensus of the Planning Commission at that meeting was that 10 feet
from either setback seemed appropriate and they tabled discussion to allow the applicant time to
verify whether that setback would work.
Gene German, 5925 Eureka Road, noted that they have submitted additional information that
shows the roof style requested and noted that he found out that it would mean a 35% increase in
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the cost to do lap siding as staff had requested. He stated that lap siding is really cosmetic and
does not change the structure and explained that they are doing their best to get this out of sight.
He stated that it would be a burden to them to put another $5,000 into something that is cosmetic.
He asked the Commission to consider allowing them to go back to the original siding that their
builder had proposed.
Vice-Chair Riedel asked if the color of the shed would match the color of the house.
Mr. German stated that they are planning to paint the house and explained that have picked a
cream color for the shed and some sort of brown for the trim color. He noted that their intent is to
match the house color as closely as possible.
Vice-Chair Riedel stated that the City Code requires that it match the architectural style, but does
not go down to the granularity of specifying the direction of the siding. He asked what style of
siding the home has and asked what Mr. German’s request would be for the shed.
Mr. German explained that the shed comes with vertical siding that are on most sheds. He stated
that there is one shed in the neighborhood that has the same style as the house but noted that it
was a tear down and rebuild and his home was built 67 years ago without a shed. He stated that
if the Commission would look throughout their neighborhood they will only find the one shed that
looks like the house. He noted that he wasn’t sure it was fair to insist that their shed match their
house when others have not had the same requirement. He reiterated that they are doing their
best to get it out of sight and is hopeful that it won’t be seen as much as if it were in a prominent
location such as their north yard area. He stated that one of the suggestions from the last meeting
was to rotate the shed 90 degrees and shared dimensions of the yard to explain how it would like
and explained that his preference would be the option where the main door would face north. He
noted that his concern with this is the proximity to the walnut tree and the potential for root damage
as well as possible damage to the shed from the tree during the fall months. He stated that he
would like to keep the shed as far away from the tree as possible and noted that he believes that
corner is also a more level portion of the yard and noted that he thinks they can live with that
placement. He noted that right now, the door is on the short side of the shed and explained that
they may end up putting in a service door, perhaps a roll-up door, but the physical building would
still be the same dimensions.
Commissioner Huskins stated that what he understands from what Mr. German has presented is
that there are two possible placements that would accomplish the 10 foot setback that the
Planning Commission had requested. He stated that the applicant has altered the planned shed
in order to match the roof of the house and has made a request that the Commission consider
not having the exact siding as the existing home. He noted that Mr. German has told the
Commission that he plans to paint the house to match the shed rather than the other way around.
He stated that to him, he does not care about what orientation Mr. German chooses, because
either way he has accomplished the 10 foot setback.
Vice-Chair Riedel stated that staff had recommended horizontal lap siding and the roof. He
explained that he agreed with Mr. German that there are plenty of sheds that do not match the
color or style of the home. He stated that if someone applies for a permit for a shed, this is, in
principle, a requirement, however you can repaint your shed without a permit. He stated that what
the Code states is that the architectural style of the accessory building must match which he feels
is subject to interpretation. He stated that because meeting this requirement would cost the
applicant about an additional $5,000, he is inclined to drop that requirement within the
Commission’s recommendation.
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Eggenberger moved, Holker seconded, Recommending Approval of the Request for a
Variance to Allow an Accessory Building to be Constructed at 10 Feet from the Rear and
Side Property Lines for property located at 5925 Eureka Road, and that the staff
recommendations be followed, except for the requirement for horizontal lap siding. Motion
passed 4/0.
C. Variance to Rear Yard Setback
Applicant: Clayton Tessness
Location: 22430 Murray Street
City Administrator Nevinski gave an overview of the request for a variance to a rear yard setback
to allow a second story addition on a garage. He explained that the garage was currently
constructed at about 37.5 feet from the rear property line where 40 feet is required. He noted that
the City has the ability to allow for expansion of certain non-conforming uses but in a case like
this where there is an encroachment, a variance would be required. Staff is recommending
approval, but noted that one way to address this would be to combine the two lots that the owner
has and eliminate the lot line between the two parcels. He stated that as staff has taken a look
at this, there is a minimal impact since both lots are owned by the same party. He stated that he
did not think there was public street access to the second lot, so if the lot were sold, gaining
access may be difficult. He stated that Planning Director Darling had passed along the information
that there is a non-conforming shed that is located on the property and crosses the property line
and if the Commission is inclined to grant the variance request, there is a condition that this shed
be moved.
Vice-Chair Riedel stated that he would like to hear the property owners thoughts on the idea of
joining the two lots and also on the history of the property and its non-conformity since it was built
in 1978.
Curtis Nordic, 22430 Murray Street, stated that he purchased both lots in 2012 with the existing
house that was built in 1978. He stated that the request is for a 2.1 foot variance for the rear
setback and stated that he believes at the time it was built, the setback was 50 feet. He stated
that would like to go vertically up from the existing garage footprint and build a bedroom, bathroom
and laundry room for he and his wife. He noted that his contractor is Clayton Tessness, whose
name appears on the paperwork as the applicant.
Commissioner Eggenberger asked if Mr. Nordic had thought about combining the lots.
Mr. Nordic stated that he has talked about it a bit but if he did combine them it would limit his
ability to ever construct on that parcel in the future. He stated that they are potentially looking at
a generational use and explained that his oldest son is autistic, so they are unsure if he will ever
actually leave the nest, or if they will simply want something close by for him. He stated that there
is a private easement for the driveway to his neighbor’s so there is potential access for the second
property from the existing driveway.
Commissioner Huskins stated that staff has made a recommendation about moving the existing
shed to a conforming location.
Mr. Nordic stated that would be fine and explained that it is on existing skids and came about
because of his dilemma in not knowing exactly where the actual property lines were located. He
stated that he can move it to a location that meets the setback once he gets those details from
Planning Director Darling.
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Commissioner Holker asked if Mr. Nordic was doing any other work on the property currently and
explained that she had noticed some construction material near the garage.
Mr. Nordic stated that material was dropped off because they had ordered it early, however, it
came much sooner than expected. He clarified that all the material there is for his planned project
and not anything else.
Holker moved, Huskins seconded, recommending approval of the Variance Request to
Rear Yard Setback for property located at 22430 Murray Street, with the conditions as
noted in the staff report, including that the existing non-conforming shed location be
shifted to the appropriate setbacks in order to become conforming. Motion passed 4/0.
City Administrator Nevinski noted that this was scheduled to come before the City Council on
January 23, 2023 for a final decision.
D. Volunteer for Liaison for February 27, 2023 City Council Meeting
Commissioner Holker explained that she had previously volunteered to report to the City Council
on February 27, 2023, however she will not be at the February 7, 2023 Planning Commission
meeting.
February – Vice-Chair Riedel
5. REPORTS
• Council Meeting Report
Vice-Chair Riedel noted that he had received a message from Council Liaison Maddy that he
would be unable to attend tonight’s meeting.
City Administrator Nevinski gave a brief overview of recent discussion and actions taken by the
City Council. He noted that they discussed various ways of promoting vacancies on Commissions
and suggested that as the Planning Commissioners are talking with friends and neighbors that
they encourage them to consider volunteering in this capacity as a way to get involved in the
community.
Commissioner Holker explained that a newsletter used to be sent out periodically which was
where she found out about the opening when she applied but noted that she has not seen a
newsletter in a while.
City Administrator Nevinski explained that the City currently does not have a Communications
Coordinator on staff but is hopeful that the position will be filled soon. He stated that he is hopeful
that this individual will be able to start in February so the City can get back on schedule with
communications.
• Draft Next Meeting Agenda
City Administrator Nevinski stated that he was not aware of what was scheduled for the next
Planning Commission meeting.
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6. ADJOURNMENT
Huskins moved, Holker seconded, adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of
January 17, 2023, at 8:13 P.M. Motion passed 4/0.
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Marie Darling
From:Dan Neitge <dnbbdtech@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, February 1, 2023 3:20 PM
To:Marie Darling
Subject:Todd Nelson Proposed Home Addition
Hi Marie,
My name is Dan Neitge at 21000 Ivy Lane. Todd Nelson is my neighbor that has submitted home addition plans to the
City of Shorewood. I looked at the plans and I approve what he would like to do. They are a very nice young family that
need more room for their young family.
Thank You Marie
Sincerely,
Dan Neitge
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