03-13-23 CC Reg Mtg MinutesCITY OF SHOREWOOD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 13, 2023
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
Mayor Labadie called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present. Mayor Labadie; Councilmembers Callies, Maddy, and Sanschagrin; City Attorney
Shepherd; City Administrator Nevinski; City Clerk/HR Director Thone; Finance
Director Rigdon; Planning Director Darling; Park and Recreation Director
Crossfield; Director of Public Works Morreim; and, City Engineer Budde
Absent: Councilmember Johnson
B. Review Agenda
City Administrator Nevinski, noted that two errors were found in item 2.C., Verified Claims List,
but noted that they had been adjusted. He explained that staff had put together a memo outlining
those changes.
Maddy moved, Sanschagrin seconded, approving the agenda, as amended. Motion
passed.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Labadie reviewed the items on the Consent Agenda.
Councilmember Sanschagrin asked to remove item 2.D. for further discussion.
Callies moved, Maddy seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent
Agenda and Adopting the Resolutions Therein.
A. City Council Retreat Minutes of February 27, 2023
B. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes of February 27, 2023
C. Approval of the Verified Claims List
D. ,
RESOLUTION ITION NO 23-026 _ (Moved to item B.E.)
E. Approve Sweeper Repair Estimate
F. Accept Quote and Award Contract for Lawn Mower
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G. Accept Quote and Award Contract for Caterpillar Skid Steer, Cold Planer, and
Attachments
H. Approve Request for Reimbursement from Met Council, Adopting
RESOLUTION NO. 23-027, "A Resolution Approving 2020 1/1 Grant Program
Funds Reimbursement Participation from Metropolitan Council
Environmental Services."
I. Approve Permanent Appointment of Ryan Brant, Public Works Light
Equipment Operator
J. Approve Permanent Appointment of Todd Roden, Public Works Light
Equipment Operator
Motion passed.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
No one appeared for Matters from the Floor.
4. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
A. Deborah Zorn, Director — Lake Minnetonka Conservation District Report
Deborah Zorn, Lake Minnetonka Conservation District, gave a brief update and overview on the
LMCD. She explained that the purpose of the LMCD was to help ensure that all of the cities
around the lake have similar approaches to how activities that are regulated on the lake happen.
She gave an overview of some of their activities and programs and noted that they are searching
for a new Executive Director. She gave a sneak peak of the spring/summer brochure and noted
that because of the new speed limit, it will be mailed to every household on the lakeshore.
B. Dan Narr, Executive Director — ICA Food Shelf
Dan Narr, ICE Food Shelf, gave an overview on what is happening with the ICA. He explained
that there are a number of families who are struggling to make ends meet in today's economy.
He noted that Shorewood accounts for six percent of the people they serve. He gave an overview
on ICA and explained that their services go beyond just being a food shelf and also assist with
housing, and jobs. He explained that their usage numbers have been showing a significant
increase and shared some of the budget constraints that have arisen because of what they have
seen with the increased usage.
Councilmember Sanschagrin thanked Mr. Narr for all the great work that the ICA Food Shelf is
doing in the community. He asked what the top three things that area communities could do to
help support this mission.
Mr. Narr stated that he has diligently been working in the affordable housing arena to try to get it
to a level of helping with things like tenant rights. He stated that it is really about making
connections and getting somebody to champion real change which will take some courage. He
explained that it comes down to being a competition between what is right for the market and
what is right for the other side of the equation.
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C. Jim Flattum, Excelsior Lions' Club Overview
Jim Flattum, Community Liaison Officer, Excelsior Lions' Club, gave an overview of the Lions'
Club organization and some of the causes they support. He noted that their club is relatively new
and currently has about thirty-two members. He stated that they wanted to just let the community
know that they exist and noted that they are currently working on their philanthropic goals for the
clubs mission and vision. He noted that their Excelsior Lions' Golf Classic held last September
helped raised around $17,000 and explained that one -hundred percent of the proceeds were
distributed to support needs within the community. He noted that they are looking to increase the
number of fundraising events they host in 2023 and shared some of the programs in the
community that they support. He invited interested members to come check out their meetings
and encouraged people to contact him if they would like to get involved.
5. PARKS
6. PLANNING
7. ENGINEERING/PUBLIC WORKS
A. Approve Plans and Specifications and Authorize Bidding for Lift Station No.
11, City Project 22-07
City Engineer Budde explained that the City is planning to rehabilitate Lift Station #11 that is
located on Radisson Road and had budgeted for this work within the Capital Improvement Plan
(CIP). He stated that staff is looking for approval of final plans and specifications and authorization
to go out for bids. He explained that the City's current practice is to get certain equipment from a
trusted vendor separate from the contract.
Councilmember Sanschagrin asked if there was a sense from staff about how this would do in
the budget compared to actual costs.
City Engineer Budde stated that staff thinks that they are in the ballpark with this project.
Councilmember Callies asked about the timing of construction and noted that there is a large
townhome project that will be going into the same area.
City Engineer Budde stated that they have looked at what will need to be done in the roadway
and explained that both projects will need to cut up a portion of the roadway to make
improvements. He stated that they have looked at the possibility of them happening in the same
spot, but they cannot. He stated that they have been coordinating and communicating with the
other project, but noted that would be easier once they know the
schedules in order to minimize the road impacts or closures.
Councilmember Callies asked what would happen at the lift station with the material while it is
under construction.
City Engineer Budde explained that the lift station would essentially stay functioning most likely
with bypass pumping.
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Councilmember Sanschagrin asked about warranty coverage.
City Engineer Budde stated that typically there is a two year warranty.
Callies moved, Maddy seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 23-028, "A Resolution
Approving Plans and Specifications and Authorize Bidding for the Lift Station #11
Rehabilitation Project, City Project 22-07." Motion passed.
8. GENERAL/NEW BUSINESS
A. Appointment of Commissioner
Commission (LMCC)
B. Appointment of Commissioner to
(LMCD)
to Lake Minnetonka Communications
Lake Minnetonka Conservation District
City Clerk/HR Director Thone explained the City Council had interviewed interested candidates
earlier this evening. She noted that the term for the LMCC is one year and for the LMCD is a
three year term.
Maddy moved, Labadie seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 23-029, "A Resolution
Making an Appointment of Tom Lesser to the Lake Minnetonka Communications
Commission." Motion passed.
Maddy moved, Labadie seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 23-030, "A Resolution
Making an Appointment of Deborah Zorn to the Lake Minnetonka Conservation District."
Motion passed.
C. Hybrid/Virtual Meetings
Mayor Labadie noted that she and City Administrator Nevinski had attended a conference put on
by the League of Minnesota Cities called City Day on the Hill. She stated that there is current a
bill related to hybrid meetings (HF-198 and SF-455) and gave an overview of the language that
is proposed to be removed. She stated that because there is a bill currently in front of the Senate
and the House of Representatives, she would recommend that the City hold off on changing its
current policy until after the bill has either passed or failed at the State legislature level. She
stated that for the time being that would mean continuing to hold meetings in the hybrid/Zoom
format.
Councilmember Callies noted that she had not yet read the proposed bills but believes that while
holding hybrid meetings may be permitted, she did not think it was mandated that every City have
hybrid availability.
City Attorney Shepherd stated that he would agree, as long as it did not say "shall" or "must".
Councilmember Callies stated that would mean that every City could handle things differently.
Councilmember Sanschagrin explained that he was a strong proponent of having the hybrid
meeting capabilities but would support the Council not taking any action on this tonight.
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The Council discussed hybrid meetings, other communities practices, staff expectations and
burdens, and technology issues with hybrid meetings.
City Administrator Nevinski stated that before this comes back before the Council staff will do
some research on what similar sized cities are doing and also take a look at steps of what could
be done to try to better insure reliability, including language or statements that may be helpful in
case the system goes down to clarify the City's expectations for providing a virtual option. He
stated that staff can bring that to the Council following the legislative session once there is a bit
more clarity from the lawmakers.
Mayor Labadie noted that she thinks it is important to see if there will be any budgetary impacts
or cost for an update.
There was a consensus of the Council to indefinitely continue discussion on hybrid/virtual
meetings and direct staff to place it on a future agenda, following rulings on the proposed
bills.
D. Approve Travel Reimbursement Request
Mayor Labadie explained that she had recently traveled to Washington D.C. at the invitation of
Congressman Dean Phillips and explained that the current policy requires Council approval of
this type of expense. She stated that she had decided to rescind her request for reimbursement
of airfare and hotel expense and will instead pay it out of pocket as a personal expense. She
stated that she would like those funds to remain in the City's 2023 Travel, Conference and School
budget in order to give the entire Council the opportunity to further their education.
E. Approve Agreement and Proposal from Davey Resource Group (formerly
item 2.D.)
Public Works Director Morreim explained that the Davey Resource Group serves as the City's
forester and handles a number of services related to the City's tree canopy. He stated that the
City solicited for these services in years past and this agreement is a renewal of the agreement
with Davey Resource Group. He stated that the terms of the agreement have been updated and
staff recommended approval.
Councilmember Maddy asked how it worked if a homeowner would reach out for a tree consult
and how payment was handled.
Public Works Director Morreim stated that to the best of his knowledge, the consultations are
informational and do not involve quotes on taking down trees. He stated that he believes that
they will provide a list of contractors that the homeowner can contact to go price out their options
for removal.
Planning Director Darling stated that Davey Resource Group explained that because they are
providing the evaluation services, they do not give quotes for tree removal themselves, but instead
direct them to other certified arborists in order to avoid any conflict of interest.
Councilmember Callies asked if Davey Resource Group gets involved when there is a
development.
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Planning Director Darling explained that work is done by Planning and Building staff but noted
that the developer needs to provide the correct information from an arborist. She stated that
Planning and Building staff looks over the tree preservation plans for consistency with City Code.
Councilmember Sanschagrin asked if there had been any interaction between the Parks
Commission and Davey Resources Group,
Planning Director Darling stated that she did not think there has been much contact and explained
that most of the work that Davey has done has been under the maintenance umbrella where they
are doing things like removing dead trees.
Councilmember Sanschagrin suggested that an agenda item be added to the upcoming Park
Commission meeting to ensure that they are aware of the relationship between the City and Davey
Resource Group.
Planning Director Darling stated that she did not think there was a lot of input that the Park
Commission can have on their work. She noted that the City gives Davey Resources Group a list
of trees that need to be removed and they put them in priority order based on the condition of the
tree. She clarified that it is more of a maintenance issue and not really policy related with that
particular service.
City Administrator Nevinski stated that when the Park Commission gets into some of the details
with things like the IPM plan, Davey could certainly be a resource for them in answering questions
and providing some guidance around policy because that is their role as the City's arborist.
Councilmember Sanschagrin asked if the proposed agreement was written by Davey Resource
Group and then aligned with the City's language. He asked about item #2, Services, and the
statement, `City shall not be responsible for discovering deficiencies in the accuracy of
Consultant's services.' He asked if this statement was somehow protecting the City and explained
that his concern was that it sort of communicates that the City is abdicating responsibility for
overseeing the consultant services and he feels that should be kept with the City.
City Attorney Shepherd stated that he understands the concern raised by Councilmember
Sanschagrin, but he believed this statement was clarifying that Davey was not abdicating their
responsibility to be responsible for meeting the requirements of the contract. He stated that he
felt this language should remain in the agreement.
Councilmember Sanschagrin noted that item 3.2 and did not align with 3.1 in terms of the number
of days and suggested that they be aligned with each other so there are not late fees.
City Attorney Shepherd stated that was a good catch and an edit can be made so those items
align with each other.
Maddy moved, Sanschagrin seconded, to Approve Agreement and Proposal from Davey
Resource Group, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 23-026, "A Resolution to Accept Proposal
from Davey Resource Group for Professional Arborist Services", with the language
amendment to 3.2, to thirty-five days, instead of thirty days, as discussed.
9. STAFF AND COUNCIL REPORTS
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A. Staff
Public Works Director Morreim stated that last week, four members of the Public Works
department attended the Minnesota Rural Water Conference in St. Cloud.
City Engineer Budde stated that tree trimming and removal should continue on Strawberry Lane
over the next few weeks.
Finance Director Rigdon stated that the City will be receiving the annual financial statement audit
this week.
Parks and Recreation Director Crossfield explained that Lucky the Leprechaun went through the
City parks and dropped a few pots of gold throughout the parks. She stated that if people are in
the parks and see a green pot of gold hanging in a tree or somewhere above eye level, they can
contact City Hall or the Parks and Recreation Department and submit a photo. She explained
that they will then be able to come in for their own little pot of gold to take home and eat. She
stated that this will take place through March 20, 2023.
City Attorney Shepherd reminded the Council that he will not be able to attend the next City
Council meeting and his associate, Jack Brooksbank, would be here instead.
B. Mayor and City Council
Councilmember Sanschagrin asked if the City can take a look at the Matters from the Floor
segment of the meeting and see if there may be another format that could be used. He stated
that he would like to see if there is a way for there to be more interaction between the Council and
those who come to speak. He stated that he would like to find a way to find this to be a more
positive experience for everyone. He suggested that they even consider changing the name to
something like Open Forum.
Mayor Labadie stated that she felt that Open Forum and Matters from the Floor were two different
`beasts'. She stated that unless something has been noticed to the public, she did not think it was
appropriate for the Council to have a dialogue on those items. She stated was why, when
appropriate, the Council directs staff to put those items on a future agenda, so it can be properly
noticed. She stated that she believes this section of the meeting has been called Matters from
the Floor for decades. She noted that she has asked other mayors how they handled this portion
of their meeting and got feedback from about forty-five mayors and found that Shorewood is much
less restrictive then many other cities. She stated that she thinks Matters from the Floor gives
the opportunity for residents to bring to the Council's attention something that they did not know
about and reiterated that it would not be proper to start up a dialogue when other residents are
not noticed.
Councilmember Callies stated that the City Council meeting is essentially a business meeting and
not a community meeting.
Councilmember Sanschagrin stated that he was just wondering if the City could look at what other
practices may be and consider those moving forward. He gave examples from Excelsior and
Chanhassen who have different formats. He stated that he was looking for something that may
be more connecting for the residents than the current format. He stated that he would like the
City to take a look at what is out there and take them into consideration.
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Councilmember Callies stated that there are public hearings and community meetings on many
different issues. She stated that she does not think there needs to be something on the agenda
that results in having a back and forth discussion with the citizens. She stated that the Council
would not know what would be brought up so it would be truly be productive or fair.
Councilmember Sanschagrin asked if someone brings up a topic in Matters from the Floor if the
Council can ask clarifying questions.
Mayor Labadie explained that the way the currently policy is, the answer would be, no. She
reiterated that they can direct staff to research the issue or place it on a future agenda.
Mayor Labadie stated that she attended the seminar in Washington D.C. and noted that there
were about forty-five delegates from Minnesota in attendance. She gave an overview of other
attendees and the speakers/topics. She stated that she also attended the Regional Council of
Mayors meeting earlier today where they discussed water. She noted that she and City
Administrator Nevinski attended City Day on Capital Hill. She stated that she will hosting a Coffee
with the Mayor event on March 17, 2023 at the Pillars of Shorewood Landings. She noted that
they are considering opening these up again to the general public and encouraged anyone who
may be interested in attending to reach out to Shorewood Landings to reserve a spot.
10. ADJOURN
Maddy moved, Sanschagrin seconded, Adjourning the City Council Regular Meeting of
March 13, 2023, at 8:30 P.M. Motion passed.
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