08.27.2024 Park Commission Meeting Minutes
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, AUGUST 27, 2024 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Wenner convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Wenner, Commissioners Garske, DiGruttolo, Bahneman;
City Council Liaison Callies; Parks and Recreation Manager
Czech; and Public Works Director Morreim
Absent: Commissioner Hirner
B. Review Agenda
Commissioner DiGruttolo moved to approve the agenda, as written. Commissioner Garske
seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of July 9, 2024
Park and Recreation Manager Czech reminded the Commission that the minutes were completed
by an outside vendor, TimeSavers. He stated that they had contacted him following the meeting
and explained that because of the topics of discussion, she had felt it may be a good idea for
them to have a full representation of their discussion. He noted that typically the meeting minutes
would not be that long or detailed.
Chair Wenner stated that she felt the minutes were really well done and had captured much of
what was discussed at the last meeting.
Commissioner Garske moved to approve the minutes of the July 9, 2024 meeting, as written.
Commissioner Bahneman seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Barry Brown, 6050 Burlwood Court, stated that he had read over the sponsorship information put
together by Park and Recreation Manger Czech and noted that while he understood that this
should be offered to Shorewood businesses first he wondered why the sponsorship opportunities
had not been opened up to residents as well. He stated that the City refers to Smithtown Ponds
by that name but questioned if it was actually a park and asked if it was an extension of Freeman
Park or some other park. He stated that he had recently sent a communication to Mayor Labadie
but was not sure if everyone had seen it and explained that when the City had applied for the
DNR grant for buckthorn removal part of the grant said to ‘designate a land manager’ for the park.
He stated that the land manager was designated as Jammi Ladwig of Bolton and Menk and noted
that a land manager should be someone who actually manages the property and makes decisions
about it. He stated that it appears that the City needed to get some paperwork taken care of in
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order to make sure that Bolton and Menk does not have any rights to make decisions on behalf
of the City for Freeman Park in relation to the 18 acres of the buckthorn area. He stated that he
would leave this information with the Commission.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech offered to make copies of Mr. Brown’s information and
distribute it to the Commission.
4. NEW BUSINESS
A. Invasive Species Management Plan
Parks and Recreation Manager Czech explained that in the 2024 Work Plan, it was outlined that
they needed to focus on the natural areas within the City. He noted that part of the natural areas
included invasive species such as buckthorn, Canada thistle, and purple loosestrife. He explained
that these have been identified as being problematic within the City’s park system and also in the
public rights-of-way, so staff had developed a draft of an Invasive Species Management Plan
(ISMP) as a way to outline some strategies and practices to help minimize their overall impact.
He noted that the ISMP was a living document and would be adjusted and changed as they
learned more, the guidance or priorities changed. He explained that the hope is for the ISMP to
evolve into a full Vegetation Management Plan in order to aid in managing vegetation resources
through all of the City’s public spaces and rights-of-way. He explained that this document was
just a draft and would like to get feedback from the Commission on what they think about it.
Commissioner DiGruttolo asked if staff had looked to see how this would align with the City’s
BeeSafe policies. She stated that she believes she saw some recommendations in the ISMP that
use some herbicides recommended by the DNR, which she felt may be against the certification
for the BeeSafe city designation.
Parks and Recreation Manager Czech explained that the recommended control methods were
not necessarily what the City would do, and was just an info-graphic of what is recommended by
the DNR. He stated that he believes the draft plan states that the City would not use any
herbicides or treatments, so even though that was what was recommended by the DNR, the City
would be straying away from that, in order to align with the BeeSafe policies.
Commissioner DiGruttolo suggested including a paragraph or two about the BeeSafe guidelines
in order to tie the two things together.
Council Liaison Callies stated that the City is not totally a BeeSafe City and the current resolution
says that the City will ‘reduce’ chemicals, so there may not actually be a conflict with this plan but
would agree that this should be clarified.
Commissioner DiGruttolo asked if there was an estimate for some of the future opportunities so
they can address them for the budget within their CIP planning. She explained that if they had
some estimates they could try to put that in for future budget years. She stated that she felt some
of the things outlined in the ISMP were great ideas and would like to start working towards being
able to purchase some of the equipment that was mentioned.
Public Works Director Morreim stated that they were currently testing some of the equipment in
order to see how it worked before they include anything within the CIP. He stated that the majority
of what was included would actually be staff time or other resources and the hope is that the
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majority of their funding will come through maintenance funds. He stated that they are going
through their first fall season in the area was removed last winter/spring and noted that there has
been a lot of regrowth, but it is much smaller than it was. He noted that, in general, he did not
really want to be in the ‘buckthorn business’ but essentially he is already, so staff was working
through the fact-finding phase of trying to find the most efficient ways it can be handled with
current resources and looking to see what others may be available.
Commissioner DiGruttolo asked what items may be on Public Works Director Morreim’s wish list.
Public Works Director Morreim stated that he has been in contact with the County regarding some
possible staffing resources and explained that he was hoping it may be a good option to be able
to have the County come in for certain ‘projects’ in the City because that would give them the
option to be a bit more flexible and efficient.
Commissioner DiGruttolo asked if staff had identified who would be responsible for exploring grant
opportunities for additional buckthorn removal and also for possibly expanding staffing through
the County.
Public Works Director Morreim stated that currently he was the one responsible for working on
the possible staffing expansion through the County and noted that responsibility for grants was
somewhat undetermined at the moment, but felt it would most likely either be himself or City
Administrator Nevinski.
Commissioner Garske stated that he liked the overall draft ISMP and also liked that they called
out, multiple times, that buckthorn was hard to control. He explained that he likes the overall idea
of reducing chemical use, however, if the City needs a manpower multiplier, he may support
limited use of chemical treatments with necessary research. He stated that he also liked the
concept of having volunteer events at some of the smaller parks in order to help manage them.
He stated that he would like to be able to have an idea of what the City wants it to be, for example,
in 5 years, once they have the buckthorn under control and maintained. He asked if the thought
was whether that would be the point where a volunteer force may be able to step in to help.
Chair Wenner stated that she had just watched a video which was recorded a year ago by Mike
Schuster who has test plots in Freeman Park. She noted that within the video he talked about
the same issue that Commissioner Garske had just raised about the importance of continued
maintenance and noted that his best idea that he felt had the most hope was revegetation of the
forest floor. She stated that was not covered very much in the draft plan and asked staff to add
that element into the document. She offered to send a link of the video to anyone who would like
to also watch it and noted that she felt that this approach would offer an excellent opportunity for
volunteers because there are a lot of gardeners in the City that would be able to contribute
plantings. She asked if this was a document that was only for use within the City or if it would
also be available to residents and noted that she felt that there was a lot of great information in
this plan.
Public Works Director Morreim stated that once it is finalized and adopted it would be a public
document.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that when this plan was formalized it would be
something that the City wanted to promote to the public.
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Chair Wenner stated that she would also add garlic mustard to their list because that is one of the
first things that moves in after buckthorn removal and sends out chemicals that will kill other
plants. She stated that creeping bellflower has also become a huge issue because each one can
produce 10,000 seeds.
Public Works Director Morreim explained that the City has weed inspectors and noted that what
had been included in the plan were ones that staff had identified. He stated that this was a living
document to changes can be made as they identify things.
Chair Wenner asked how the weed inspector gathered their information.
Public Works Director Morreim explained that there were two staff members who receive training
every year in order to be certified. He stated for private property or public property when they get
a call they can go out and identify them and move through the steps.
Chair Wenner asked if that meant that residents could contact the weed inspector.
Public Works Director Morreim stated that he will have to double check that and make sure he
stated it correctly.
Chair Wenner asked if the weed inspector gets information from SeeClickFix and if staff would
like people to report infestations that way.
Public Works Director Morreim confirmed that people can report it through SeeClickFix or by e-
mailing or calling City staff.
Chair Wenner stated that overall, she felt the ISMP was fantastic and thanked staff for the work
they put into its creation and that they were able to take the BeeSafe policy into consideration as
well.
Commissioner Garske asked if in Freeman Park there may be a way to essentially protect the
borders and be super vigilant on things starting to come into the park.
Public Works Director Morreim explained that it was tough to control but noted that if they are
identified they can try to deal with them. He stated that it was challenging to deal with any species,
without treatments because the reality is that they will all come back. He stated that with regard
to re-vegetation, they did plant some trees and other plantings but noted that they did not know
how many years the City would need to actively remove the buckthorn without treatments. He
stated that he was expecting them to go 3-5 years with removal. He referenced a similar project
in Minnetonka that had used treatments and where they had just planted 10,000 trees in the area
but reiterated that they were only able to do that because it was completely bare because they
used treatments. He explained that was one of the reasons they were not putting a huge focus
on this right now because the City will be in this same removal mode for many years.
Commissioner Garske stated that another way that may help get the community involved, outside
of volunteer events, was by using signage using the graphics from the report. He gave the
example of identifying the information on signage and encouraging residents to help the park by
pulling out weeds and would also encourage them to also do this at home as well. He noted that
it would be interesting to know if anyone had done home inspection grants for invasive species
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and shared an example from when he moved into his house and his personal pride in reviving a
large dying plant in his yard that turned out to be buckthorn.
Chair Wenner suggested that they look into having more resources available on the City website
and reiterated that she felt much of the information included in this plan was helpful information
that she would like residents to be able to access.
B. Smithtown Ponds Feature Naming
Parks and Recreation Manager Czech shared some of the background information related to the
City’s purchase of a parcel located at 26245 Smithtown Road from the Schmid family for use as
a stormwater storage facility. He stated that it has been commonly referred to as Smithtown
Ponds and explained that the Schmid family would like to install a sign on the property calling it
“Pebble Brook Farm” which is what the family had always called the property. He noted that when
the City accepted the park bench donation from the Schmid family there was a recommendation
for the Park Commission to discuss establishing a recommendation for this action/request. Staff
is recommending that the Smithtown Ponds have signage and be named “Pebble Brook Farm” in
honor of the Schmid family. He noted that these ponds are intended to be stormwater facilities
and staff did not feel that it should be added onto Freeman Park.
Commissioner DiGruttolo stated that she felt naming this area in honor of the Schmid family was
a great idea.
Commissioner Garske stated that he liked the idea but was concerned that the name may mislead
people because it would essentially just be a path through the drainage ditch.
Mr. Brown spoke from the audience and suggested that in addition to the naming sign, they also
install a plaque underneath it that says that the Schmid family had sold the City this parcel and it
was named in honor of what their family had called it when they came to visit.
Chair Wenner stated that she agreed that it may be a good idea to provide some type of
clarification on the signage as suggested by Mr. Brown.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech noted that the Schmid family had already donated 1 bench
and there was still another one coming which included covering the cost for the concrete pad and
the plaque.
Commissioner Bahneman asked how far apart the 2 benches would be from each other.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that he would guess that they will be about 50 yards
away from each other.
Commissioners discussed the name, possible confusion by using the word ‘farm’ in the name,
preferred location for placement of the sign, and whether they intended to have this be something
that would be searchable on Google Maps.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that since the Commission appeared to be thinking
of changing the name a bit from what the family had originally requested, he suggested that he
have a conversation with the Schmid family about the Commissions ideas and the thoughts about
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the potential confusion about the use of the word ‘farm’. He stated that he will plan to bring this
item back on a future agenda after he had spoken with the family.
C. Parks and Recreation Sponsorship Program
Parks and Recreation Manager Czech reviewed details of the proposed Parks and Recreation
Sponsorship Program and explained that in an effort to promote sponsorship for Parks and
Recreation programs and special events, staff had developed a guide that offered different levels
of sponsorship opportunities as a way to help the City offset some of the costs for the various
events.
Commissioner DiGruttolo stated that she thought the proposed program guide looked great and
asked if staff already knew what the cost of each event would be so there is a target number for
sponsorships.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that he has been able to pull some of that together
based on previous budgets.
Commissioner DiGruttolo asked if there may be future iterations that have opportunities to allow
the businesses sponsoring an event to also provide food or swag as well.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech explained that with the various levels, he does have things
like having a free sponsor table at the event in order to promote themselves or their organization,
but noted that if they would be doing any selling, that would need more discussion of the details.
Chair Wenner stated that she agreed with Mr. Brown’s earlier statement that it would be nice to
open up these opportunities to individuals as well.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech explained that this would be more geared towards a
corporate sponsorship campaign, but agreed that they could have a separate individual
sponsorship opportunity as well.
Commissioner DiGruttolo asked who was responsible for the signs and banners for the ballfields.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that those were done through an agreement with
Minnetonka Baseball.
Commissioner DiGruttolo stated that she felt this was a great idea and a way to get local
businesses involved. She encouraged staff not to forget about the non-profit entities and
suggested that they be able to offer them reduced sponsorship levels.
Commissioner Garske asked about the impact of a logo versus a business name because it
looked like that was really the only difference between the Gold and Silver levels of sponsorship.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech explained that he had taken this from surrounding cities and
what they were doing.
Commissioner Garske suggested that the Silver level have a limit on the number of free tables
that they can have at the City events, rather than allowing them to have one at all events, in order
to separate them further from the Gold level of sponsorship.
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Park and Recreation Manager Czech noted that because this was something new to the City, he
expects that they will be revisiting it, especially over the next few years as they see what actually
works for the City.
Chair Wenner asked if the City may be able to use this for Oktoberfest.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that he felt that it was already a bit too late for
Oktoberfest and explained that the goal would be to get this out and promoted in time for Arctic
Fever. He noted that he was informed by the City Attorney that the City cannot actively go into
businesses and pursue them for sponsorships, so it will be important that they get the word out
via the website, events, or social media.
Commissioners discussed levels and inclusion, possibility of calling the third level Bronze instead
of Contributing, and mentioned some typographical errors that they found.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech suggested that the Commission send him any typographical
errors that they found in the guide.
Commissioners pointed out some different formatting and footnote options, the inclusion of
complimentary hours at the Community Center, adding this into the table so it is not lost, and
inclusion of directions on what should be done after they finish filling out the sponsorship form.
Garske moved to recommend approval of the 2025 Sponsorship Guide, as amended, per
discussion. DiGruttolo seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
D. Concert in the Park and Safety Camp Recap
Parks and Recreation Manager Czech stated that Concert in the Park took place on July 11, 2024,
at Freeman Park and Safety Camp took place on August 7, 2024, at the South Lake Minnetonka
Public Safety building. He gave a brief overview of attendance and feedback related to both
events and outlined future considerations that he felt the City should take in account for future
event planning.
Commissioner DiGruttolo stated that if the idea was to open things up for Safety Camp next year,
for example, the City of Chanhassen, there will have to be some thought put into the advertising
so it has a wider purview. She stated that she felt it was a really good idea to open it outside of
the City boundaries because there are probably numerous communities that do not have their
own safety camp.
Commissioner Garske asked if there had been a reason that the Safety Camp was not already
opened up to people outside of the City.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech noted that in years past, the event has filled up, but didn’t
think there was a ‘rule’ about it and noted the general feeling was that they would just prefer to
have the event full.
Commissioners discussed advertisement or partnership opportunities with the Minnetonka
Community Ed catalog.
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E. Badger Park Oktoberfest Preview
Parks and Recreation Manager Czech outlined some of the planned activities that will take place
during the upcoming Oktoberfest event and noted that the City was partnering with the Excelsior
Morning Rotary and the Excelsior American Legion Post 259. He stated that the City essentially
will host the ‘family friendly’ version of the event at Badger Park from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. on
September 28, 2024. He reviewed the activities that are currently scheduled and explained that
the activities will transition over to the Excelsior American Legion from 3:00 to 9:00 p.m. where
there will be live music, adult beverages, and food options. He stated that they are looking for
volunteers to help with the event and encouraged anyone interested to contact him.
Commissioner Garske stated that he had attended last year and thought the face paint artist did
a great job, but since there was only one person, there was quite a long which took a while to get
through. He stated that he really liked that it was a free event, but would have been willing to pay
a few bucks to help offset the costs either.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech noted that the same face painting artist would be coming
back this year and had also given the same feedback about the length of the lines.
Commissioner Bahneman and Chair Wenner offered to volunteer at Oktoberfest.
The Commission expressed their appreciation to Park and Recreation Manager Czech for the
work and information that was included in this meeting packet and that it had been sent out the
Friday prior to the meeting.
5. OLD BUSINESS
6. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS / UPDATES
A. City Council
Council Liaison Callies gave a brief overview of the discussion and decisions that took place at
the August 26, 2024 City Council meeting and answered Commission questions.
B. Staff
a. September 10, 2024 Park Commission Meeting
Park and Recreation Manager Czech stated that their next meeting is scheduled for September
10, 2024 but noted that Chair Wenner would be out of town on that date and asked if the
Commission was still interested in meeting on that date.
Commissioner Bahneman stated that she would also be out of town on that date.
Park and Recreation Manager Czech suggested that the Commission cancel their September
meeting and just meet as planned in October.
There was consensus to cancel the September 10, 2024 Park Commission meeting.
7. ADJOURN
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Commissioner Bahneman moved to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of August 27,
2024 at 8:34 p.m. Commissioner Garske seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.