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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2001 7:30 P.M. OR IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING
WORK SESSION
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Arnst called the meeting to order at 8:44 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Arnst; Commissioners Puzak, Meyer, Callies, Bix, Young, and Dallman; City
Council Liaison Garfunkel; City Administrator Dawson; Finance Director Burton; and
City Engineer Brown
B. Review Agenda
Per City Engineer Brown’s request, Item #5 was removed from the agenda and postponed until January,
and Item #7B, a discussion regarding Eddy Station vandalism, was added.
Puzak moved, Callies seconded, approving the agenda as amended. Motion passed 7/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of November 13, 2001
Dallman moved, Puzak seconded, approving the Minutes of November 13, 2001 as submitted.
Motion passed 7/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meetings of November 26, 2001 and December 10,
2001
Council Liaison Garfunkel reported on the November 26, 2001 City Council meeting. At the meeting, he
stated that there was a presentation by Mark Themig; staff was directed to prepare a feasibility report for the
Lake Linden Drive trail request; Council happily accepted a conservation easement from Dan Riesen; they
approved the funding for the police station; and finally, the Glen Road/Amlee Road drainage was discussed.
Brown expanded on the Glen/Amlee Roads drainage issue. He indicated that the ongoing studies have
presented several options, all of which however, are in direct conflict with the Gideon Glen project. The
Council did not approve the studies but asked they be taken back to the drawing board to include the goals of
the Gideon Glen project. Brown maintained that there will be no easy solutions, but they will continue to
endeavor.
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Administrator Dawson reported that City Council approved the supervision of the rink attendants agreement
last night during the December 10, 2001 City Council meeting. He added that Cub Foods came in for a pre-
application discussion, which is expected to be returned in January; Tom Skramstad was reappointed as the
City’s liaison to the LMCD; budgets were approved; and the City will be at the Watershed District regarding
the Gideon Glen project on Thursday, December 13, in order to be a part of their capital budget. Finally,
Dawson reported that the Community Visioning process is moving forward, and invited the Commission to
attend a Community Vision Forum on February 21, 2002, at the South Shore Center. He added that a
voluntary survey will be posted on the community’s website to share comments as well.
Brown clarified that the Cub Foods proposal that is coming back in January is for the Comprehensive Plan
Amendment for the rezoning of the property. This is not to say that the entire site plan is up for approval at
this point, it is to say whether or not the Planning Commission and City Council are willing to recommend
and approve the Comprehensive plan amendment only. Depending on what happens then, Cub Foods will
have to follow the same process as it did before.
B. Report on Land Conservation Environment Committee
Callies reported that the LCEC has not met for two months and there is nothing to report. She also asked if
she could remove herself from the Committee, since they don’t meet often and her husband is a committee
member. She did add that it might not be necessary to have a liaison present at all their meetings and she
could, at times, merely present her husbands’ notes. She also volunteered to write occasional articles for the
newsletter. Chair Arnst said they would discuss a liaison alternative in January.
C. Report on Park Foundation Meeting of November 15, 2001
Dallman reported that the Foundation has met and they’ve sold a few more bricks from the newsletter
advertisement. They plan to meet again later this month.
5. MASTER PLAN REVIEW
A. Status of Report on Traffic/Parking Study for Freeman Park
Removed from the Agenda.
6. REVIEW STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON SPORTS ORGANIZATION USER FEE
INCREASE
Chair Arnst reported that staff is recommending that the Park Commission increase the user fee from $5. to
$10. per person, per sport, per season. She asked for the boards’ thoughts on the request. Burton added that
the rationale was the City of Shakopee memo indicating that their similar services warrant a greater fee and
the fact that the Park Fund is operating at a deficit.
Puzak stated that, while the request is not unreasonable, it is necessary due to the fact that the Commission
has not done its part to raise funds through its concessions at Eddy Station and the Park Foundation has failed
to meet its financial commitments to the City. While he was uncomfortable with the bar being raised, he felt
he could support it.
Chair Arnst agreed with Puzak, citing that an alternative solution is necessary. The concessions, once again, is
budgeted to achieve $3,000 next year and Chair Arnst hoped that they will do their best to find a
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concessionaire for 2002. She indicated that while she was not enthusiastic about a 100% increase in the fee,
she would support the increase this year but not again next year, especially, if the increase is due to the Park
Foundation missing the mark on their commitment once again.
Young asked what sort of return the City was seeing on the vending machines. It was noted that the machines
have generated roughly $300 per statement.
Bix stated that from her observations there are viable concessionaires out there among the sports
organizations. For instance, the girls softball and soccer groups led her to believe that there might be interest
to do some sort of shared concessions operation. Bix voiced her concern that it’s in bad faith to raise the user
fee by doubling it the second year.
Puzak brought up the idea of splitting the difference in the increase by charging $7.50 rather than $10.
Dawson stated that due to levy limits the City Council asked if the Park Commission would be willing to
bump up the user fee to $10 with the intent that they restore balance to the park improvement plan and regain
the outlay from Eddy Station.
Burton noted the reality that if the Park Department is going to move ahead, the Park Foundation will need to
meet its 10-year $10,000 annual commitment, or once again, increases in the user fees may be requested
down the road.
Callies questioned whether we could justify the need to boost the user fee via advertising. By noting in the
newsletter and paper that the user fees will run $7.50 if someone or organization steps forward to run the
concessions, or $10 if there is no support. She felt communicating that we have to raise fees due to these
shortfalls may justify it to the public.
Young stated that he is in support of the $10 user fee and felt they started to cautiously at $5 last year.
Meyer wondered if the end users are even aware that the user fee exists. She was unclear if organizations
lump it into their fees or supply registrants with a breakdown. Puzak stated that many organizations break it
out due to tax requirements. Meyer asked if it were easier in the long run to bill per team versus per player.
Brown indicated that staff cannot spend the enormous amount of time working on the rosters next year as they
did in 2001.
Dallman felt he could support the $10 user fee if he had some sort of guarantee that it stay the same for two
years.
Callies moved, Young seconded, to authorize a $10 user fee per person, per sport, per season. Motion
passed 6/1, with Bix dissenting.
Burton noted that the billing would occur based on the rosters of last year. The assumption will be based on
past data, with the ability to make adjustments where necessary.
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7. APPOINT PARK LIAISON FOR JANUARY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS
Meyer will serve as liaison to the City Council on January 14 and 28, 2002.
7B. Eddy Station Vandalism
Brown reported that just the night before, many things were burnt, busted, carved upon, plus, a fire was
started in a garbage can under the canopy. With the Commission’s support, Brown plans to pursue the
installation of video surveillance equipment, cameras, or whatever it takes to catch the vandals. The incidents
of vandalism always occur roughly at the same time and the City has an idea of who is to blame, however,
evidence is necessary to catch the guilty parties.
Chair Arnst reiterated the Commissions support. Support she believed they had given to Brown several
months ago to pursue whatever measures staff deems necessary.
8. NEW BUSINESS
There was none.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Bix moved, Meyer seconded, adjourning the Regular Park Commission Meeting of December 11,
2001 at 9:35 P.M. Motion passed 7/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
RECORDING SECRETARY