031197 PK MIN
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PARK COMMISSION WORK SESSION 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, MARCH 11, 1997 7:30 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Colopoulos called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Colopoulos; Commissioners Wilson, Dallman, and Arnst; Council
Liaison McCarty; Administrator Hurm; and City Planner Brad Nielsen.
Absent: Commissioners Bensman, Trettel and Puzak.
3. REVIEW AGENDA
There were no changes to the agenda.
4. TRAIL PLAN REVIEW
Chair Colopoulos quoted the Park Commission goal:
The Park Commission goal is to guide the development,
implementation, and maintenance of Shorewood’s recreational system.
The recreational system, consisting of parks and a multipurpose trail
network, shall provide the community and neighborhoods with safe,
attractive, and diverse recreational facilities, and a designated trail
system for safe and controlled mobility throughout the community by
all acceptable means of recreational transportation.
Colopoulos stated a discussion of a trail system should be sensitive to preserving the flavor of
this community: a rural atmosphere without significantly altering the appearance of private
properties.
He further stated documents which may lend guidance through the planning process of a trail
system include the petitions for and against the off-street trail system; and the Trail Plan which
was compiled five years ago so there may be some recommendations which need to be re-
examined for feasibility.
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City Planner Brad Nielsen began his presentation to the Park Commission by reviewing the
Comprehensive Plan and how this document correlates to the Trail Plan. The Comprehensive
Plan serves as a guide for existing elements within the City: Land Use; Natural Resources;
Community Facilities including the park system (trails are considered recreational facilities);
and Transportation including references to the Trail Plan.
Nielsen outlined the Planning Process as described in the Shorewood Comprehensive Plan:
Planning Tactics
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Issues are identified:
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What can we afford?
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What do the people want? What would be acceptable? What are we
hoping to resolve?
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Evaluation of issues via citizen petitions
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Initiate citizen input early in the process
Planning Inventory
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Gathering of Information:
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Traffic counts
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What other information do we have now?
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Petitions for/against trail
Policy Planning
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Goals and Objectives
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goal
What is the for this element of City government?
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“The City shall provide those basic facilities and services which
ensure the health, safety and general welfare of the public, the cost of
which facilities and services are most efficiently shared by the general
public.” (Shorewood Comprehensive Plan or SCP)
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“The efforts of varying government agencies shall be coordinated to
avoid duplication of efforts, unnecessary expense and improper
location of public facilities.” (SCP)
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“The City shall establish a basis for developing and maintaining a
sound financial planning program for capital improvements, relating
such improvements to actual need, proper location and timing.”
(SCP)
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Policies for Pedestrians and Bicycles
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“Where possible and economically feasible, a separated traveled
surface shall be provided for pedestrians and cyclists.” (SCP)
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“Special attention shall be directed and facilities provided for
pedestrian movement and access in areas in and surrounding schools,
churches, parks, commercial and service centers.” (SCP)
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“Pedestrian street crossings on heavily traveled streets shall be clearly
marked and lighted.” (SCP)
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“All street improvement programs and projects shall include
consideration of facilities for pedestrians and bicycles.” (SCP)
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“Major streets in Shorewood shall be designed to protect pedestrian
and bicycle movement paralleling traffic.” (SCP)
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“Encourage new development to respect the pedestrian/bicycle
system and where possible to contribute to the City right-of-way and
development costs.” (SCP)
Plans, Projects, Programs
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Emphasize importance of citizen input early in the project process
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What would make this acceptable to residents?
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No loss of trees?
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Additional landscaping?
Implementation
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Emphasis on neighborhood meetings
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Make changes to plan based on neighborhood/citizen input
Chair Colopoulos noted that everything the Park Commission will do from the planning stages
of this project to its implementation is directly related to the communication plan, which
provides the skeleton of how the entire project will be developed.
Administrator Hurm suggested a review of the proposed trail system and to prioritize the
sections. City Planner Nielsen suggested at a public information meeting, look for citizens
willing to participate in a “focus group” to help develop options for the trail. Visual aids such
as computer drawings of the trail abutting private property and maps highlighting affected
areas may be helpful during public information meetings. Common questions and answers
may be written out and placed on bulletin boards during the meetings. “Public information
meetings” could be entitled “neighborhood meeting” or “open house” to suggest a more
informal atmosphere. Commissioner Arnst inquired about the expense of computer drawings.
City staff will research the expense of computer drawings.
Greg Elwell, 5720 Star Lane, appreciated the concern for aesthetics, but he noted nothing has
been mentioned about the impact of additional walkers/bicycles traveling along private
properties.
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Commissioner Arnst stated that an estimated 135,000 people used the LRT in the summer of
1995. The Park Commission may want to look at using a small area as a “test case” to
monitor the effects of the trail in a particular neighborhood.
Shirley Bergslien, 24785 Smithtown Road, said that the bicycles often ride four bicycles wide
on Smithtown Road, thus creating an unsafe situation for themselves and automobiles. A
solution may be to pave the LRT to get bicycles off of Smithtown Road.
Scott Zerby, 5680 Christopher Road, said that his two children are “held prisoner” in their
neighborhood because there is no access to the park except to cross Smithtown Road, and
they are too young to cross Smithtown without an adult. A trail would provide a safe access
to the park for his children.
Tom Swanson, 25405 Smithtown Road, asked why the Regional Path is not being utilized as a
bicycle path.
Nielsen said that the intent of a trail on Smithtown Road is to take care of the traffic which
already exists from bicycles and pedestrians. Some issues which warrant examination include
the volume of traffic on Smithtown Road; different types of trails; and does the City have
enough right-of-way to construct a side trail? Nielsen stated that one successful key in
presenting an idea to the public involves the terms used to describe the proposal – will it be
called a “trail” or a “sidewalk” or something else?
Commissioner Wilson has seen wood-chip trails in areas of the wetlands which would not
have the same environmental impact as paved trails. Different types of trails need to be
reviewed.
Commissioner Dallman was concerned about the lack of a trail on Smithtown Road because a
car is now legally required to allow three feet between the vehicle and a bicyclist, and if the
car swings out that far, the vehicle is probably over the yellow solid line and has created a
traffic violation. The City has to provide alternatives for safe and effective transportation
systems.
Councilmember McCarty stated that the City of Orono walked an area where a proposed
project may be located. The Shorewood City Engineer, other City staff, and Park
Commissioners could invite neighbors to accompany them on a walk of a proposed trail
location. Representatives of the City could address alternatives or potential problems at that
time.
Wilson referred to the priority of trail segments in the Trail Plan. The first priority is to
examine an off-street walkway/bikeway trail along Smithtown Road from the Victoria city
limits to County Road 19. Wilson suggested the Park Commission begin examination of this
area.
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A consensus of information needed to study this first section included:
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Smithtown Road traffic counts
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Right-of-Way
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Survey results which generated this Trail Plan and citizen input from minutes
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Aerial maps (where are the properties/trees, etc.?)
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Larger viewing maps for the public’s use
Other issues to examine include responsibility for trail maintenance; signage specifications (for
allowed uses of trail) ; and rules for dogs/leashes/cleanup duty.
Nielsen asked the Park Commission for a time line. It was agreed that the information needed
to study the Smithtown trail proposal would be prepared for evaluation at the next Park
Commission meeting on March 25, 1997.
5. FINALIZE CRITERIA FOR SELECTING A VENDOR FOR FREEMAN
PARK CONCESSIONAIRE
It was suggested that the Freeman Park Concessionaire Request For Proposal be sent to three
additional organizations: Junior Achievement; Excelsior Rotary; an “Ice Cream Lady” in
Deephaven (Ruth Duffy, 18605 Northome Blvd.); and also to check with Dan Puzak for a
name of the mentor group at the high school. Colopoulos will inquire about the high school
health class’ requirement for community service projects.
Hurm noted again that a goal of this project is to support soccer and softball associations and
to get them excited about working together and raising funds to finance a permanent
concession building. He also stated that Dan Kuzlik, Director of Minnetonka Community
Education
Services, is supportive of these efforts, and also supports the idea of acting as a facilitator for
this project.
No requests for the RFP have been received as of today’s date.
6. ESTABLISH NEXT MEETING DATE
The next regular meeting date is scheduled for Tuesday, March 25, 1997 at 7:30 P.M.
7. ADJOURNMENT
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Dallman moved, Arnst seconded, to adjourn the meeting
There being no further business,
at 9:55 P.M. Motion carried unanimously.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,