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072490 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD TUESDAY, JULY 24, 1990 PARK COMMISSION MEETING M I N U T E S CALL TO ORDER COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 7:00 PM Chairman Christensen called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM. i_Lla�2&1`0a Present: Chairman Christensen, Commissioners Andrus, Lindstrom, Laberee Vogel and Weatherly; Park Planner Koegler; Public Works Director Zdrazil; Council Liason Gagne; and Park Administrative Assistant Niccum Absent: Commissioner Wilson (called) APPROVAL OF MINUTES Andrus moved, Laberee seconded, to approve the minutes of Tuesday, July 10, 1990, as written. Motion carried - 6/0. SILVERWOOD PARK Commissioner Weatherly reviewed the development process: the work that went into the original park plan, the concerns of the new neighbors, the resulting survey, the new plans, the three options, and the decision reached by the Commission. Barb Christensen of 19545 Vine Ridge Road questioned the removal of shrubbery screening the tennis courts from the east. She said if there was just one tennis court it looked like there would be more room for landscaping for screening purposes. Park Planner Koegler said it would be difficult to save the terrain, one court would make landscaping easier. He pointed out that it is approximately 450' from the tennis courts to the property on the east. Commissioner Laberee asked Koegler if it wasn't cheaper to put in two courts at a time, due to only bringing in equipment once. Koegler said there is a significant cost saving by doing it all at once. Sean James of 19595 Waterford Place asked if the trail was part of the original plan? Commissioner Lindstrom said yes it was. James said the area is full of deer and pheasants, and he hates to see them disturbed. He asked who benefits from the trail? He said it goes between two homes. Commissioner Lindstrom said the entire community benefits from the trail, he said the intent of the trail was so the neighborhood did not have to drive to the park, or walk on the streets. James expressed concern over parking for the trail use. He asked if the City intended to add additional parking. He felt the roads should be posted "No Parking" to keep people from parking on the streets to use the trail. Park Planner Koegler explained that there are three types of trails involved in the park: 1. A trail along Covington Road, which is basically a sidewalk; 2. A trail from Silverwood Park to Hwy 7, which will be mowed turf, a pedestrian walking trail; and 3. the wetland trail, which will be a floatable walkway with a low SHOREWOOD PARR COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JULY 24, 1990 Page two SILVERWOOD PARK - continued unobtrusive observation platform. Koegler said no additional parking is planned. This is a neighborhood park, not a community park. Koegler said the Park Commission is embarking on a overall City trail plan, which will go before the Council at a later date. Martey Snyder, of 19855 Chartwell Hill, asked if the City could wait to do this trail until the entire trail system takes place? Sam Sawyer of 19655 Waterford Place expressed concern over the wildlife, and said he had some serious concerns regarding possible vandalism. The remark was made that there are problems now with snowmobiles in the area, and the police will not come out because they say they can't catch them anyway because there are too many exits. They ask the residents to get the information. Gagne stated that the Council will be discussing snowmobiles. Kathy Swanson said she walks through Covington Park all the time. They have two tennis courts, and they never seem to be in use. She hates to see the trees torn down and the wildlife disturbed. Commissioner Weatherly said the reason two tennis courts were put into the plan was because a lot of residents did not feel it was safe to have themselves or their children cross Vine Hill Road and, the Commission, after tabulating the survey, feel that if the demand exists, provide for it. Gary Swanson of 19535 Vine Ridge Road would like to see the tennis courts buffered, and all the work on the park done at once. Dale Schneider of 19585 Vine Ridge Road asked if the warming house would be permanent, and how much it would cost? Koegler said yes, it would be permanent, and it would be a quality structure. He said $40,000 has been set as the price for the warming house and storage building. Swanson said, and some of the other residents agreed, that he would rather have the City bring in a trailer, such as the one used in Manor Park, for 3 months, and see the City spend more on playground equipment. Koegler said $15,000 has been set as the price for playground equipment. He explained that the price of the warming house does not have anything to do with the price of the playground equipment. The Commission responded to a question regarding the trailer used as a warming house in Manor Park last season, saying it was very well received. Another question arose on whether the pond would be aerated. Koegler said they wish to create a clean open water setting, and fill as little as possible. He said at this time he hasn't researched it to the point of making a decision on aeration. Weatherly explained the tabulation and results of the questionnaire. She said 350 were sent, 138 were returned. Christensen asked how many present answered the questionnaire? Most people raised their hands. He said now the City has to figure out what it wilt cost, and who will pay for it. SHOREWOOD PARR COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JULY 24, 1990 Page three SILVERWOOD PARK - continued Koegler said the total development cost, including electric, water, and site grading, should be approximately $180,000. He said we don't know at this time where the money is coming from, park dedication and possibly a referendum if necessary. We should know more in a month. He said $93,500 has already been spent to purchase the park property. This is a neighborhood park. The questionnaire was only sent to the surrounding community. Martey Snyder asked about maintenance. Christensen said the parks are maintained by the City, and maintained well, but no park actually exits yet. When it exists, it will be maintained. Koegler said detailed landscaping plans will be done. They will leave most areas as they are. This will mean less disruption and less cost. He said picnic areas are usually developed after the rest of the park is done. This way they can be placed in the areas needed. Louis Tilton asked if all the money is not available - would #1 on the list be done first? The Commission said not necessarily, it would depend on what funds are available. It was suggested by residents that a committee be formed to plan the play structure. Koegler said there are no definate plans for the play equipment at this time, although it will be a system that will handle pre- school and 5 -9 year olds. He said the equipment is usually purchased by one of the large companies that specialize in play equipment, and he doesn't see this changing. The next step in the process will be to make a presentation to the City Council and get plan and spec approval. Louise Bonach thanked the Commission for the time, effort, and consideration they have given to Silverwood Park. Commissioner Laberee said it looks like the tennis courts can be moved a little to the west and south. Koegler said he will look at that when he gets into the detailed plan. Vogel moved, Andrus seconded, to recommend to Council that they adopt the Master Plan for Silverwood Park presented by Park Planner Koegler; with the stipulation that the tennis courts can be moved slightly and, that buffering can be added on the east side of the tennis courts. Motion carried 6 -0. PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN (PCIP) Park Planner Koegler reviewed sample plans with the Commission. He said he will be meeting on Thursday with the Finance Director to see what money is available. Andrus reviewed the priorities - irrigation in Freeman Park, relocation of ballfield and parking lot in Cathcart Park, Little League field in Freeman Park, and the completion of Silverwood Park. This cost is approximately $244,000. He said less than $400,000 in park fees will be received by the year 2000, more funding sources are needed. Koegler said after he attends the staff meeting, he will send a memo to the Park Commission and the City Council. SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, JULY 24, 1990 Page four BUDGET The Commission reviewed the park budget with Public Works Director Zdrazil and Park Planner Koegler. LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD The Commission discussed the status of a proposed Little League field in Freeman Park. Koegler informed the Commission that Administrator Whittaker is in the process of writing a letter to the Tonka Men's Club informing them of the costs and asking them their intentions. Andrus moved, Laberee seconded, to recommend to Council that Zdrazil stake and grade it at this time, and that the Council authorize an expenditure of $1400 for the survey and grading of a proposed 2nd Little League field in Freeman Park. Motion carried - 6/0. The Commission feels that this is an ideal location for a Little League field. They feel that as long as the BMX Track was removed, something else should be put in its place. SHOREWOOD SUBURBAN ESTATES - PARR DEDICATION REQUEST Andrus moved, Lindstrom seconded, to recommend to the Council that they accept cash in lieu of land from Shorewood Suburban Estates. Motion carried - 6/0. AD JOURNME N T Weatherly moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10:45 PM. Motion carried - 6/0. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Susan Niccum Administrative Assistant —4— CITY OF SHOREWOOD JOINT COUNCIL /PARR COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA THIS IS A WORKSHEET THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE JULY 10, 1990 PARK MEETING THIS IS FOR YOU TO MAKE NOTES OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY AT THE MEETING CONTINGENCY FUND PARK COMMISSION ROLE COUNCIL AND PARK COMMISSION LIAISON ROLES Explain viewpoint regardless of personal feelings 9 CITY OF SHOREWOOD JOINT PK COMM /COUNCIL MEETING PAGE TWO CLARIFICATION OF PARK COMMISSION REASONS RE: ENGINEER ADDITIONAL FUNDING AVAILABLE? n LJ HOW IS T HE PARK BOARD GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET MORE FUNDING? • CITY OF SHOREWOOD JOINT COUNCIL PARK COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA PAGE THREE TO THE COUNCIL - -- HOW DO YOU VIEW OUR RELATIONSHIP? G DO YOU LISTEN TO OUR ADVICE WITH AN OPEN MIND? r� U •